It just shows Ronnie is not a big enough character to make a big impact on viewing figures, even with adverts. I think Peggy's brief return next week will have more of an impact, because she is a bigger character. I can see the viewing figures next week for Eastenders higher than this week.
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Originally Posted by Lucylocket88:
“It just shows Ronnie is not a big enough character to make a big impact on viewing figures, even with adverts. I think Peggy's brief return next week will have more of an impact, because she is a bigger character. I can see the viewing figures next week for Eastenders higher than this week.”
“It just shows Ronnie is not a big enough character to make a big impact on viewing figures, even with adverts. I think Peggy's brief return next week will have more of an impact, because she is a bigger character. I can see the viewing figures next week for Eastenders higher than this week.”
I can't even see it breaking 7million next week on Friday
Dissapointing for EastEnders. It's been fantastic this week. I expect ratings to rise as darker night come in.
I don't get it, the past two weeks were meant to be the start of a massive autumn for EastEnders but while Corrie and Emmerdale are starting to get bigger ratings due to the colder weather EastEnders is barely budging and falling further behind. Really baffling?
The 7m on Monday was a positive sign but since then it's just fallen back all over again. Below 30% for two nights too. Have the lost viewers just abandoned the show entirely?
The 7m on Monday was a positive sign but since then it's just fallen back all over again. Below 30% for two nights too. Have the lost viewers just abandoned the show entirely?
Originally Posted by Lucylocket88:
“It just shows Ronnie is not a big enough character to make a big impact on viewing figures, even with adverts. I think Peggy's brief return next week will have more of an impact, because she is a bigger character. I can see the viewing figures next week for Eastenders higher than this week.”
“It just shows Ronnie is not a big enough character to make a big impact on viewing figures, even with adverts. I think Peggy's brief return next week will have more of an impact, because she is a bigger character. I can see the viewing figures next week for Eastenders higher than this week.”
Peronally I think it shows just how many fans/viewers have left. I am ONLY back because of Ronnie and I'm not along so maybe its helped steady the rot having her back.
Waterlook Road was terrible so I think maybe people are choosing to watch ITV and recording BBC 1?
BBC Three figures have been rising which is interesting.
Its going to take good word of mouth and a few months of this quality in EE for fans to trust that the show has turned a corner.
Originally Posted by gavin shipman:
“Dissapointing for EastEnders. It's been fantastic this week. I expect ratings to rise as darker night come in.”
“Dissapointing for EastEnders. It's been fantastic this week. I expect ratings to rise as darker night come in.”
I agree its been good this week, not fantastic but a huge improvement on the rest of the year. However once Ronnie settles back into the square all this hooha about her return will settle down meaning EE will stay below 7million. I think its been damaged too much to even rate above 7million consistently this Winter.
EE needs to dispense with the 'yoof weeks' because they seriously harm the show. They are enough to turn people off for life!
I also think the fact they never heavily advertised Ronnie's return or mention that there is a Wednesday episode (the first trailer was 9pm on Friday when normally they advertise for a whole week before) doesn't help.
I also think the fact they never heavily advertised Ronnie's return or mention that there is a Wednesday episode (the first trailer was 9pm on Friday when normally they advertise for a whole week before) doesn't help.
Originally Posted by xeo:
“I don't get it, the past two weeks were meant to be the start of a massive autumn for EastEnders but while Corrie and Emmerdale are starting to get bigger ratings due to the colder weather EastEnders is barely budging and falling further behind. Really baffling?
The 7m on Monday was a positive sign but since then it's just fallen back all over again. Below 30% for two nights too. Have the lost viewers just abandoned the show entirely?”
“I don't get it, the past two weeks were meant to be the start of a massive autumn for EastEnders but while Corrie and Emmerdale are starting to get bigger ratings due to the colder weather EastEnders is barely budging and falling further behind. Really baffling?
The 7m on Monday was a positive sign but since then it's just fallen back all over again. Below 30% for two nights too. Have the lost viewers just abandoned the show entirely?”
There are no gripping storylines, just a car crash, and 3 returns. Perhaps viewers have literally deserted the soap and can predict the storylines Ronnie will get after her initial return and are not interested anymore.
The BBC really have no one to blame but themselves though.
Action needed to be taken at least two years ago when all the warning signs were there. Instead every excuse under the sun was being made to pass the buck and everything continued as normal.
I pity Treadwell Collins as he is going to have a huge battle on his hands here. I reckon a huge cast shake up will happen before the year is out.
Action needed to be taken at least two years ago when all the warning signs were there. Instead every excuse under the sun was being made to pass the buck and everything continued as normal.
I pity Treadwell Collins as he is going to have a huge battle on his hands here. I reckon a huge cast shake up will happen before the year is out.
Originally Posted by xeo:
“I don't get it, the past two weeks were meant to be the start of a massive autumn for EastEnders but while Corrie and Emmerdale are starting to get bigger ratings due to the colder weather EastEnders is barely budging and falling further behind. Really baffling?
The 7m on Monday was a positive sign but since then it's just fallen back all over again. Below 30% for two nights too. Have the lost viewers just abandoned the show entirely?”
“I don't get it, the past two weeks were meant to be the start of a massive autumn for EastEnders but while Corrie and Emmerdale are starting to get bigger ratings due to the colder weather EastEnders is barely budging and falling further behind. Really baffling?
The 7m on Monday was a positive sign but since then it's just fallen back all over again. Below 30% for two nights too. Have the lost viewers just abandoned the show entirely?”
Yup.
Originally Posted by xeo:
“I don't get it, the past two weeks were meant to be the start of a massive autumn for EastEnders but while Corrie and Emmerdale are starting to get bigger ratings due to the colder weather EastEnders is barely budging and falling further behind. Really baffling?
The 7m on Monday was a positive sign but since then it's just fallen back all over again. Below 30% for two nights too. Have the lost viewers just abandoned the show entirely?”
“I don't get it, the past two weeks were meant to be the start of a massive autumn for EastEnders but while Corrie and Emmerdale are starting to get bigger ratings due to the colder weather EastEnders is barely budging and falling further behind. Really baffling?
The 7m on Monday was a positive sign but since then it's just fallen back all over again. Below 30% for two nights too. Have the lost viewers just abandoned the show entirely?”
The 2 England matches have lost it any momentum it was gaining and the hour-long unadvertised Wednesday slot didn't help matters either. It needs to maintain the quality of this week and the viewers will slowly come back.
The ITV soaps are also climaxing big stories this week which is probably further echoing the bad state EE has been in this year because they haven't had any major long running stories.
Originally Posted by dullagj2:
“The 2 England matches have lost it any momentum it was gaining and the hour-long unadvertised Wednesday slot didn't help matters either. It needs to maintain the quality of this week and the viewers will slowly come back.
The ITV soaps are also climaxing big stories this week which is probably further echoing the bad state EE has been in this year because they haven't had any major long running stories.”
“The 2 England matches have lost it any momentum it was gaining and the hour-long unadvertised Wednesday slot didn't help matters either. It needs to maintain the quality of this week and the viewers will slowly come back.
The ITV soaps are also climaxing big stories this week which is probably further echoing the bad state EE has been in this year because they haven't had any major long running stories.”
Yes, with the two ITV soaps having their major reveals this week, (even though it will take a few weeks more for them to be concluded), and nothing seriously major that we know about coming up just yet, this would be an excellent time for EE to get their act together and come up with something to grip and then sustain viewers and potential viewers. Big one-off stunts are simply not the solution for EE. There has to be a lot else going on around those stunts if they want to attract and keep viewers.
It's pretty sad to look at the beginning of this thread (early 2012) and see people upset and worried over a 7.7m rating for EastEnders and asking for the BBC to take action 
This summer was truly dire for EE and its fans. One of the most common excuses was that EE was rating badly due to not having any explosive storylines, which sort of said something about the show they were defending. That issue seems to be sorted though, at least for now.
I'm not sure about Emmerdale as I don't watch it, but with Corrie there's the ongoing Kylie/David/Nick saga and of course the Hayley/Roy cancer storyline. Not massive explosive storylines or anything but things that will hook viewers over the Christmas period for sure. A lot of "love and warmth" as Lorraine Newman would say - come to think of it I wonder if she was trying to turn EastEnders into Corrie to replicate its recent success
Wasn't there a rumour that ITV are planning an explosive week for Emmerdale/Corrie? It would be great for them to take advantage of EastEnders' recent rating woes to boost Emmerdale and a good way of doing that is to advertise it along with Corrie in the hope that it will pick up some of its viewers. They did that recently with that Shakespeare advert and it seems to be working. If I'm honest I was on the tip of giving up EastEnders in favour of Emmerdale but this week is starting to make me give up that idea.
Originally Posted by dullagj2:
“The 2 England matches have lost it any momentum it was gaining and the hour-long unadvertised Wednesday slot didn't help matters either. It needs to maintain the quality of this week and the viewers will slowly come back.
The ITV soaps are also climaxing big stories this week which is probably further echoing the bad state EE has been in this year because they haven't had any major long running stories.”
“The 2 England matches have lost it any momentum it was gaining and the hour-long unadvertised Wednesday slot didn't help matters either. It needs to maintain the quality of this week and the viewers will slowly come back.
The ITV soaps are also climaxing big stories this week which is probably further echoing the bad state EE has been in this year because they haven't had any major long running stories.”
This summer was truly dire for EE and its fans. One of the most common excuses was that EE was rating badly due to not having any explosive storylines, which sort of said something about the show they were defending. That issue seems to be sorted though, at least for now.
Originally Posted by Oldnjaded:
“Yes, with the two ITV soaps having their major reveals this week, (even though it will take a few weeks more for them to be concluded), and nothing seriously major that we know about coming up just yet, this would be an excellent time for EE to get their act together and come up with something to grip and then sustain viewers and potential viewers. Big one-off stunts are simply not the solution for EE. There has to be a lot else going on around those stunts if they want to attract and keep viewers.”
“Yes, with the two ITV soaps having their major reveals this week, (even though it will take a few weeks more for them to be concluded), and nothing seriously major that we know about coming up just yet, this would be an excellent time for EE to get their act together and come up with something to grip and then sustain viewers and potential viewers. Big one-off stunts are simply not the solution for EE. There has to be a lot else going on around those stunts if they want to attract and keep viewers.”
I'm not sure about Emmerdale as I don't watch it, but with Corrie there's the ongoing Kylie/David/Nick saga and of course the Hayley/Roy cancer storyline. Not massive explosive storylines or anything but things that will hook viewers over the Christmas period for sure. A lot of "love and warmth" as Lorraine Newman would say - come to think of it I wonder if she was trying to turn EastEnders into Corrie to replicate its recent success
Wasn't there a rumour that ITV are planning an explosive week for Emmerdale/Corrie? It would be great for them to take advantage of EastEnders' recent rating woes to boost Emmerdale and a good way of doing that is to advertise it along with Corrie in the hope that it will pick up some of its viewers. They did that recently with that Shakespeare advert and it seems to be working. If I'm honest I was on the tip of giving up EastEnders in favour of Emmerdale but this week is starting to make me give up that idea.
Originally Posted by xeo:
“It's pretty sad to look at the beginning of this thread (early 2012) and see people upset and worried over a 7.7m rating for EastEnders and asking for the BBC to take action
This summer was truly dire for EE and its fans. One of the most common excuses was that EE was rating badly due to not having any explosive storylines, which sort of said something about the show they were defending. That issue seems to be sorted though, at least for now.
I'm not sure about Emmerdale as I don't watch it, but with Corrie there's the ongoing Kylie/David/Nick saga and of course the Hayley/Roy cancer storyline. Not massive explosive storylines or anything but things that will hook viewers over the Christmas period for sure. A lot of "love and warmth" as Lorraine Newman would say - come to think of it I wonder if she was trying to turn EastEnders into Corrie to replicate its recent success
Wasn't there a rumour that ITV are planning an explosive week for Emmerdale/Corrie? It would be great for them to take advantage of EastEnders' recent rating woes to boost Emmerdale and a good way of doing that is to advertise it along with Corrie in the hope that it will pick up some of its viewers. They did that recently with that Shakespeare advert and it seems to be working. If I'm honest I was on the tip of giving up EastEnders in favour of Emmerdale but this week is starting to make me give up that idea.”
“It's pretty sad to look at the beginning of this thread (early 2012) and see people upset and worried over a 7.7m rating for EastEnders and asking for the BBC to take action
This summer was truly dire for EE and its fans. One of the most common excuses was that EE was rating badly due to not having any explosive storylines, which sort of said something about the show they were defending. That issue seems to be sorted though, at least for now.
I'm not sure about Emmerdale as I don't watch it, but with Corrie there's the ongoing Kylie/David/Nick saga and of course the Hayley/Roy cancer storyline. Not massive explosive storylines or anything but things that will hook viewers over the Christmas period for sure. A lot of "love and warmth" as Lorraine Newman would say - come to think of it I wonder if she was trying to turn EastEnders into Corrie to replicate its recent success
Wasn't there a rumour that ITV are planning an explosive week for Emmerdale/Corrie? It would be great for them to take advantage of EastEnders' recent rating woes to boost Emmerdale and a good way of doing that is to advertise it along with Corrie in the hope that it will pick up some of its viewers. They did that recently with that Shakespeare advert and it seems to be working. If I'm honest I was on the tip of giving up EastEnders in favour of Emmerdale but this week is starting to make me give up that idea.”
Emmerdale is having a big week in October with the Cameron storyline finally coming to a close and I think Corrie will be having the Roy and Hayley trip to Blackpool that week wit the return of either Liz or Todd
The big 3 this week:
Coronation Street
Monday - 9.06m (42.8%) & 8.82m (38.8%)
Wednesday - 8.45m (41.0%)
Friday - 8.75m (42.7%) & 8.85m (38.7%)
Emmerdale
Monday - 7.04m (36.7%)
Tuesday - 5.70m (30.4%)
Wednesday - 7.03m (37.2%)
Thursday - 7.12m (36.9%) & 6.60m (30.8%)
Friday - 6.93m (36.1%)
EastEnders
Monday - 7.04m (31.9%)
Tuesday - 6.41m (29.3%)
Wednesday - 6.62m (29.9%)
Thursday - 6.66m (33.4%)
Friday - 6.83m (32.4%)
Averages
Coronation Street - 8.79m (40.8%)
Emmerdale - 6.74m (34.7%) *6.94m (35.5%) exc. Tuesday
EastEnders - 6.71m (31.4%)
Strong week for the ITV soaps with Corrie above 40%, EastEnders didn't do too badly but nothing too spectacular either.
Coronation Street
Monday - 9.06m (42.8%) & 8.82m (38.8%)
Wednesday - 8.45m (41.0%)
Friday - 8.75m (42.7%) & 8.85m (38.7%)
Emmerdale
Monday - 7.04m (36.7%)
Tuesday - 5.70m (30.4%)
Wednesday - 7.03m (37.2%)
Thursday - 7.12m (36.9%) & 6.60m (30.8%)
Friday - 6.93m (36.1%)
EastEnders
Monday - 7.04m (31.9%)
Tuesday - 6.41m (29.3%)
Wednesday - 6.62m (29.9%)
Thursday - 6.66m (33.4%)
Friday - 6.83m (32.4%)
Averages
Coronation Street - 8.79m (40.8%)
Emmerdale - 6.74m (34.7%) *6.94m (35.5%) exc. Tuesday
EastEnders - 6.71m (31.4%)
Strong week for the ITV soaps with Corrie above 40%, EastEnders didn't do too badly but nothing too spectacular either.
Coronation Street:
Mon: 9.25m (+1.15m) / 9.37m (+870k)
Wed: 8.92m (+1.23m)
Sun: 8.09m (+670k)
EastEnders:
Mon: 7.82m (+900k)
Tues: 7.64m (+770k)
Thurs: 7.6m (+710k)
Fri: 6.7m (+1m)
No HD figures for Emmerdale.
Mon: 9.25m (+1.15m) / 9.37m (+870k)
Wed: 8.92m (+1.23m)
Sun: 8.09m (+670k)
EastEnders:
Mon: 7.82m (+900k)
Tues: 7.64m (+770k)
Thurs: 7.6m (+710k)
Fri: 6.7m (+1m)
No HD figures for Emmerdale.
Coronation Street: 8.72m (40%) / 8.93m (41%)
Coronation Street: 8.91m (37.7%) / 9.19m (39%)
Emmerdale: 7.33m (35.7%) / 7.48m (36.4%)
Eastenders: 7.01m (30.3%), +2.5: 284k (2.1%)
Hollyoaks: 1.04m (5.7%)
Hollyoaks: 686k (3.4%)
To remind people, here's how Emmerdale did during the week of it's live episode:
15/10: 7.51m (35.5%) / 7.67m (36.3%)
16/10: 7.43m (35.1%) / 7.70m (36.4%)
17/10: 8.84m (40%) / 9.21m (41.7%)
18/10: 7.59m (36.9%) / 7.77m (37.8%)
19/10: 7.69m (37.6%) / 7.83m (38.3%)
Coronation Street: 8.91m (37.7%) / 9.19m (39%)
Emmerdale: 7.33m (35.7%) / 7.48m (36.4%)
Eastenders: 7.01m (30.3%), +2.5: 284k (2.1%)
Hollyoaks: 1.04m (5.7%)
Hollyoaks: 686k (3.4%)
To remind people, here's how Emmerdale did during the week of it's live episode:
15/10: 7.51m (35.5%) / 7.67m (36.3%)
16/10: 7.43m (35.1%) / 7.70m (36.4%)
17/10: 8.84m (40%) / 9.21m (41.7%)
18/10: 7.59m (36.9%) / 7.77m (37.8%)
19/10: 7.69m (37.6%) / 7.83m (38.3%)
Emmerdale is performing really well. I wonder if it's picked up some viewers who stopped watching EastEnders?
Solid for Corrie as always, really not sure what to say about EastEnders anymore. No more excuses can be laid out, it's September, cold, pitch black at 8pm, yet it still struggles to crack 7m and the low share shows how much it struggled last night.
I think the BBC will be disappointed at the figures this September. The car crash and Ronnie's return were trailed and hyped but if anything it fell further behind the competition which is surprising and I don't think they expected it.
I wonder if Emmerdale is actually benefiting more from the nights drawing in as it's on earlier?
Solid for Corrie as always, really not sure what to say about EastEnders anymore. No more excuses can be laid out, it's September, cold, pitch black at 8pm, yet it still struggles to crack 7m and the low share shows how much it struggled last night.
I think the BBC will be disappointed at the figures this September. The car crash and Ronnie's return were trailed and hyped but if anything it fell further behind the competition which is surprising and I don't think they expected it.
I wonder if Emmerdale is actually benefiting more from the nights drawing in as it's on earlier?
Originally Posted by dullagj2:
“Coronation Street:
Mon: 9.25m (+1.15m) / 9.37m (+870k)
Wed: 8.92m (+1.23m)
Sun: 8.09m (+670k)
EastEnders:
Mon: 7.82m (+900k)
Tues: 7.64m (+770k)
Thurs: 7.6m (+710k)
Fri: 6.7m (+1m)
No HD figures for Emmerdale.”
“Coronation Street:
Mon: 9.25m (+1.15m) / 9.37m (+870k)
Wed: 8.92m (+1.23m)
Sun: 8.09m (+670k)
EastEnders:
Mon: 7.82m (+900k)
Tues: 7.64m (+770k)
Thurs: 7.6m (+710k)
Fri: 6.7m (+1m)
No HD figures for Emmerdale.”
Surely that episode for Corrie timeshifted more than that, the Sunday episode had 6.65mllion so in fact it timeshifted 1.44million
Last night:
Emmerdale: 7.45m (37.8%) / 7.61m (38.6%)
EastEnders: 7.06m (32.6%), +2.5: 530k (3.8%)
Holby City: 4.58m (19.0%)
Doctors: 1.52m (21.1%)
Hollyoaks: 856k (4.7%)
Neighbours: 695k (9.6%) [13:45] 823k (5.6%) [17:30]
Brilliant for Emmerdale share wise.
Emmerdale: 7.45m (37.8%) / 7.61m (38.6%)
EastEnders: 7.06m (32.6%), +2.5: 530k (3.8%)
Holby City: 4.58m (19.0%)
Doctors: 1.52m (21.1%)
Hollyoaks: 856k (4.7%)
Neighbours: 695k (9.6%) [13:45] 823k (5.6%) [17:30]
Brilliant for Emmerdale share wise.
Wish people would stop saying "Emmerdale had a big week" or "Corrie's good at the minute with this plot" etc... clearly they're having big weeks, but that's the point: ED and CS are actually bothering, hence why there's regular plot climaxes and developments to keep viewers hooked.
Seriously the EE defenders are digging it deeper into its grave. Defending it and making excuses, settling for second (or third!) best is not right.
Seriously the EE defenders are digging it deeper into its grave. Defending it and making excuses, settling for second (or third!) best is not right.
Originally Posted by James J:
“Seriously the EE defenders are digging it deeper into its grave. Defending it and making excuses, settling for second (or third!) best is not right.”
“Seriously the EE defenders are digging it deeper into its grave. Defending it and making excuses, settling for second (or third!) best is not right.”
I doubt very much that EE bosses are reading DS and deciding that everything's fine just because people are "making excuses" as you put it. The fact they're starting to take action by firstly getting some stories on the go and bringing in a new EP is more than enough to throw that theory aside.
Most people have agreed that the quality of the show over the past two weeks has been an improvement on most of this year, but this won't be reflected in the ratings. It'll take a period of sustained quality before the show can start climbing back up again.
The Emmerdale and Corrie comparisons are valid points really. Both of them are peaking some high-profile storylines while EE is only really starting to come together again. The test for the ITV soaps is whether they can maintain that momentum.
Coronation Street: 7.82m (38.7%) / 7.57m (34.0%)
Emmerdale: 6.62m (36.1%)
EastEnders: 6.32m (29.8%)
I think we can establish that EastEnders' problems go further than the characters.
The ITV soaps look healthy with their shares. Was it warm anywhere last night though? It seems like quite a few people didn't watch TV as a whole last night. Strange considering it's September.
Emmerdale: 6.62m (36.1%)
EastEnders: 6.32m (29.8%)
I think we can establish that EastEnders' problems go further than the characters.
The ITV soaps look healthy with their shares. Was it warm anywhere last night though? It seems like quite a few people didn't watch TV as a whole last night. Strange considering it's September.
Originally Posted by xeo:
“Coronation Street: 7.82m (38.7%) / 7.57m (34.0%)
Emmerdale: 6.62m (36.1%)
EastEnders: 6.32m (29.8%)
I think we can establish that EastEnders' problems go further than the characters.
The ITV soaps look healthy with their shares. Was it warm anywhere last night though? It seems like quite a few people didn't watch TV as a whole last night. Strange considering it's September.”
“Coronation Street: 7.82m (38.7%) / 7.57m (34.0%)
Emmerdale: 6.62m (36.1%)
EastEnders: 6.32m (29.8%)
I think we can establish that EastEnders' problems go further than the characters.
The ITV soaps look healthy with their shares. Was it warm anywhere last night though? It seems like quite a few people didn't watch TV as a whole last night. Strange considering it's September.”
Including +1 figures:
Emmerdale: 6.87m (37.5%)
Coronation Street: 8.03m (39.7%)
Coronation Street: 7.93m (35.6%)
EastEnders on BBC3: 399k (2.8%)
Emmerdale's share suggests about 18.3m watching TV during the time it was on - typical for 7pm on a weeknight though. Share suggests about 20.2m watching TV during the first Corrie and about 22.3m during the second.
It certainly wasn't warm here yesterday but it does look to be warming up slightly over the next week though which may hurt EastEnders even more.
Maybe EE should take some time off.
The top brass at EE spent too long with their heads in the sand. Where EE is now at is the result of three long years of alienating its viewership.
DTC has his work cut out but the BBC have no one to blame but themselves. Its now heading to a dangerous place. We have seen this with Brookside.
DTC has his work cut out but the BBC have no one to blame but themselves. Its now heading to a dangerous place. We have seen this with Brookside.
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