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Soap Ratings Thread (Part 6)
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Citadel
30-12-2013
Originally Posted by Oldnjaded:
“Because they'd have had to cut off the last half hour of Shrek of course! ”

Bugger Shrek!
James J
31-12-2013
#1. Coronation Street: 8.82m (37.3%), +1: 272k (1.1%)

#2. Emmerdale 7.17m (31.4%), +1: 181k (0.8%)

#3. EastEnders: 6.91m (27.9%), BBC3: 602k (4.0%)


EastEnders suffering out of its normal slot as people thought. I genuinely did think it would be at around 8 million last night especially before Mrs Brown's Boys (which got nearly 9 million last night). I really hope EE can rise for the New Year's episodes as there's a murder going on. I'm sure it will manage 8-9m?

Brilliant for Emmerdale which I gather is playing a good story about the Home Farm fire. The show always stands tall in the face of the two big guns and is a great underdog; October's storm and siege and last year's anniversary (spearheaded by the supposedly dreadful Stuart Blackburn) showed Emmerdale can pull off incredible episodes, and it deserves its place in the UK TV schedules as a brilliant daily drama.

And 9.1m for Corrie's brilliant hour-special last night is just fabulous. The show is riding high and I think a lot of the people up in arms about Tina/Peter are just disgusted at the characters for reverting to form (Peter's cheating on his 5th wife now and Tina's using her beauty to ensnare men - both as bad as each other). I think as the story develops beyond the affair we will be seeing some absolutely phenomenal drama in 2014. Obviously people will beg to differ now but I think it'll be just like Molvin, criticised at the time, but the fallout and explanations and repercussions will make it make sense, and justice served!

I think Stuart Blackburn is far more visionary and ahead of his time than a lot of people give him credit for. He is an architect, and has overseen 3 set moves for soaps now; he also laid all the groundwork for Kate Oates as well as doing the anniversary and pushing the Killer Cam story up ten notches. Yes some of his decisions were controversial but hey, that's life!

I think he'll end up being one of the highest regarded Corrie producers, just like Collinson. (Though not everyone will like anyone!)
sw2963
31-12-2013
EE rating is atrocious and not indicative of its improved quality. Blackburn knows what he's doing it seems.
RandomPeter94
31-12-2013
Why the heck did EE get low ratings last night? :S Pretty shocked about that. Is it because people expected it to be at 8pm or what? Was there something it was clashing with? Were people going out or something?
Sandsss
31-12-2013
EE was the only soap out of it's usual time slot and was on the same time as Quantum of Solace which got over 4m. The BBC3 repeat got over 600k and I'm sure the official figure will be closer to 8m.
Last Request
31-12-2013
Originally Posted by Sandsss:
“EE was the only soap out of it's usual time slot and was on the same time as Quantum of Solace which got over 4m. The BBC3 repeat got over 600k and I'm sure the official figure will be closer to 8m.”

EE had Mrs Browns Boys lead it so no excuses for its poor rating.

Corrie is on a roll everybody is moaning and groaning about SB, but nobody can deny ratings are better than ever under his tenure. itv will be pleased how the ratings are going unlike the bbc not knowing where EE next big rating will come.
Hit Em Up Style
31-12-2013
Originally Posted by Last Request:
“Corrie is on a roll everybody is moaning and groaning about SB, but nobody can deny ratings are better than ever under his tenure. itv will be pleased how the ratings are going unlike the bbc not knowing where EE next big rating will come.”

This stands for nothing though. The EE ratings in 2011 were actually better than its average for 2010 but everyone knew the quality was falling (well apart from those who feel EE must be praised at all costs no matter what) and Kirkwood was damaging the show greatly. It wasn't until 2012 that the ratings finally started to collapse.

Ratings don't fall over night. Its a gradual thing. EE will regain its audience but it will take time to do so. Could be summer even autumn before EE has fully recovered ground on Corrie but knowing how much effort the BBC are putting into fixing EastEnders I have no doubt it will happen.

Corrie on the other hand might find itself in a similar situation to what EE has been in if feedback is anything to go by. So don't gloat when it could come back to haunt you. just saying. Things do have a nasty habit of coming back around....
Citadel
31-12-2013
Originally Posted by James J:
“#1. Coronation Street: 8.82m (37.3%), +1: 272k (1.1%)

#2. Emmerdale 7.17m (31.4%), +1: 181k (0.8%)

#3. EastEnders: 6.91m (27.9%), BBC3: 602k (4.0%)


EastEnders suffering out of its normal slot as people thought. I genuinely did think it would be at around 8 million last night especially before Mrs Brown's Boys (which got nearly 9 million last night). I really hope EE can rise for the New Year's episodes as there's a murder going on. I'm sure it will manage 8-9m?

Brilliant for Emmerdale which I gather is playing a good story about the Home Farm fire. The show always stands tall in the face of the two big guns and is a great underdog; October's storm and siege and last year's anniversary (spearheaded by the supposedly dreadful Stuart Blackburn) showed Emmerdale can pull off incredible episodes, and it deserves its place in the UK TV schedules as a brilliant daily drama.

And 9.1m for Corrie's brilliant hour-special last night is just fabulous. The show is riding high and I think a lot of the people up in arms about Tina/Peter are just disgusted at the characters for reverting to form (Peter's cheating on his 5th wife now and Tina's using her beauty to ensnare men - both as bad as each other). I think as the story develops beyond the affair we will be seeing some absolutely phenomenal drama in 2014. Obviously people will beg to differ now but I think it'll be just like Molvin, criticised at the time, but the fallout and explanations and repercussions will make it make sense, and justice served!

I think Stuart Blackburn is far more visionary and ahead of his time than a lot of people give him credit for. He is an architect, and has overseen 3 set moves for soaps now; he also laid all the groundwork for Kate Oates as well as doing the anniversary and pushing the Killer Cam story up ten notches. Yes some of his decisions were controversial but hey, that's life!

I think he'll end up being one of the highest regarded Corrie producers, just like Collinson. (Though not everyone will like anyone!) ”

The problem with EastEnders is that I think perhaps it has a 'floating' audience of about a million viewers AKA an audience that will only watch EE if it is up to scratch. Last night's episode was poor so the floating audience probably didn't bother. It was on half-an-hour after the ITV soaps finished, which is inexplicable. It should have competed with Quantum of Solace and it would have done better. Nevertheless it got 6.9m viewers and then 0.6m caught the repeat, totalling 7.5m viewers which is actually more than Emmerdale's sub-total.

In my view, the Home Farm story is a very nasty story, spearheaded by nasty characters. Emmerdale may be able to do 'incredible' episodes now and again, but most day-to-day episodes are pants.

Corrie's one-hour special last night was absolutely dire in my view, with some of the cringiest dialogue I've ever heard. I'm not personally disgusted by Peter/Tina, I'm disgusted by the storyline because it is unrealistic, sensationalist drivel that isn't remotely believable or plausible.

Stuart Blackburn should be commended for his work on the soaps' set moves, Emmerdale's visual revamp and the live episode, which was absolutely brilliant. However when it comes to stories and characterisation, the man flounders. Emmerdale was absolutely dreadful under his tenure. We had the Aaron/Jackson mercy killing which is the worst soap plot in history, closely followed by Maurel which is the second worst. He pursued characters like Aaron and Amy, two of the most unpleasant soap characters ever. He turned Debbie, Declan, Megan, Charity, Lisa and others into one-dimensional characters with no substance, and he killed off Carl King, one of the show's most popular characters played by an actor who wanted to stay there for many years. But he backed Carl into a corner. Sorry, Blackburn was awful at Emmerdale.

I can confidently say he will NOT be highly regarded as a Corrie producer!
H of De Vil
02-01-2014
Christmas Day consolidated ratings are in
I have posted them on here, so nobody can accuse me of being 'ant-EEist'.

Christmas Day 2013 - consolidated ratings

1 - Mrs Brown's Boys: 11.52m
2 - Doctor Who: 11.14m
3 - Coronation Street: 9.83m (9.40m excl. +1)
4 - Downton Abbey: 9.41m (8.95m excl. +1)
5 - EastEnders: 9.36m
6 - Call the Midwife: 9.16m
7 - Strictly Come Dancing: 8.84m
8 - Toy Story 3: 7.33m
9 - Emmerdale: 7.07m (6.77m excl. +1)
10 - The Queen (BBC One): 5.82m
11 - ITV News (19:15): 5.73m (5.56m excl. +1)
12 - BBC News (15:10): 5.65m
13 - Michael McIntyre's Showtime: 5.26m
14 - ITV News (22:30): 5.16m (4.83m excl. +1)
15 - Paul O'Grady: For the Love of Dogs at Christmas: 5.11m (4.67m excl. +1)
16 - Tangled: 3.66m (3.07m excl. +1)
17 - BBC News (23:05): 3.34m
18 - Top of the Pops Christmas: 3.22m
19 - Home Alone 2: Lost in New York: 2.96m (2.52m excl. +1)
20 - Bear's Wild Weekends: 2.77m (2.53m excl. +1)

Coronation Street is top soap on the day. Well Done (although SB don't think this will continue if you cvarry on creating god awful stortylines ala Tina/Pater)
Totem_Bern
02-01-2014
Originally Posted by Citadel:
“The problem with EastEnders is that I think perhaps it has a 'floating' audience of about a million viewers AKA an audience that will only watch EE if it is up to scratch. Last night's episode was poor so the floating audience probably didn't bother. It was on half-an-hour after the ITV soaps finished, which is inexplicable. It should have competed with Quantum of Solace and it would have done better. Nevertheless it got 6.9m viewers and then 0.6m caught the repeat, totalling 7.5m viewers which is actually more than Emmerdale's sub-total.

In my view, the Home Farm story is a very nasty story, spearheaded by nasty characters. Emmerdale may be able to do 'incredible' episodes now and again, but most day-to-day episodes are pants.

Corrie's one-hour special last night was absolutely dire in my view, with some of the cringiest dialogue I've ever heard. I'm not personally disgusted by Peter/Tina, I'm disgusted by the storyline because it is unrealistic, sensationalist drivel that isn't remotely believable or plausible.

Stuart Blackburn should be commended for his work on the soaps' set moves, Emmerdale's visual revamp and the live episode, which was absolutely brilliant. However when it comes to stories and characterisation, the man flounders. Emmerdale was absolutely dreadful under his tenure. We had the Aaron/Jackson mercy killing which is the worst soap plot in history, closely followed by Maurel which is the second worst. He pursued characters like Aaron and Amy, two of the most unpleasant soap characters ever. He turned Debbie, Declan, Megan, Charity, Lisa and others into one-dimensional characters with no substance, and he killed off Carl King, one of the show's most popular characters played by an actor who wanted to stay there for many years. But he backed Carl into a corner. Sorry, Blackburn was awful at Emmerdale.

I can confidently say he will NOT be highly regarded as a Corrie producer! ”

BIB how on earth do they know until they've see it? Do they have a crystal ball.

And I'd argue it wasn't poor at all. EE hasn't been poor since before Halloween with one or two exceptions (mostly anything involving Sam and a kidney)
dullagj2
04-01-2014
Soap overnight average for the Big Three 2013:

Coronation Street: 8.24m
up 190k y-o-y
down 270k on 2011
down 560k on 2010


EastEnders: 6.88m
down 620k y-o-y
down 1.36m on 2011
down 1.72m on 2010


Emmerdale: 6.57m
down 10k y-o—y
down 390k on 2011
down 430k on 2010


December 2013 overnight average for the Big Three:

Coronation Street: 7.94m
down 130k y-o-y

EastEnders: 6.84m (7.1m exc. clashes)
down 780k/520k y-o-y

Emmerdale: 6.45m
down 290k y-o-y

Top 5 overnights for the Big Three 2013:

Coronation Street:
1. 10.34m (21/1)
2. 10.27m (18/3)
3. 10.12m (25/3)
4. 10.09m (21/1)
5. 9.9m (18/3)

EastEnders:
1. 9.09m (1/1)
2. 8.77m (14/1)
3. 8.77m (21/1)
4. 8.76m (18/1)
5. 8.68m (3/1, 7/1)

Emmerdale:
1. 8.13m (16/10)
2. 7.89m (17/10)
3. 7.8m (10/1)
4. 7.8m (18/1)
5. 7.79m (14/1)

5 Lowest overnights for the Big Three 2013:

Coronation Street:
1. 4.86m (5/7)
2. 5.54m (5/7)
3. 5.81m (6/2)
4. 6.08m (15/5)
5. 6.13m (19/7)

EastEnders:
1. 4.52m (8/10)
2. 4.71m (31/5)
3. 4.84m (23/7)
4. 4.89m (4/6)
5. 5.03m (14/5)

Emmerdale:
1. 4.53m (5/7)
2. 5.05m (4/6)
3. 5.08m (26/12)
4. 5.11m (19/7)
5. 5.14m (23/7)
dan2008
04-01-2014
Friday 3rd January 2014

Hollyoaks-964k (4.4%)
Emmerdale-6.99m (31.3%) 130k (0.5%) on +1
EastEnders-7.72m (32.3%
Corrie (7:30)-8.42m (36.0%) 210k (0.9%) on +1
Corrie (8:30)-8.17m (33.2%) (0.8%) on +1

Hollyoaks E4-828k (3.7%)
EastEnders BBC3 at 10:30pm-351k (1.9%)
EastEnders Omnibus (11:25pm)-0.60m (8.8%)

EastEnders omnibus is higher than some of the BBC2 Sunday afternoon showings.
dullagj2
12-01-2014
Soap Officials w/c 30th Dec: (+1 in brackets)

Monday 30th Dec:
Coronation Street: 9.77m (10.1m)
EastEnders: 8m
Emmerdale: 7.81m (8m)

NYE:
EastEnders: 7.78m
Emmerdale: 6.74m (6.98m)

NYD:
Coronation Street: 9.16m (9.51m)
EastEnders: 8.26m
Emmerdale: 7.03m (7.3m)

Thurs 2nd Jan:
EastEnders: 8.61m
Emmerdale (20:00): 7.83m (8.02m)
Emmerdale (19:00): 7.65m (7.76m)

Fri 3rd Jan:
Coronation Street (19:30): 9.49m (9.72m)
Coronation Street (20:30): 9.03m (9.27m)
EastEnders: 8.24m
Emmerdale: 7.55m (7.68m)


Source: ronant
Hit Em Up Style
12-01-2014
EastEnders starting to look very healthy again.
robjames69
12-01-2014
EE certainly back to being the "#2 soap"
dan2008
12-01-2014
Originally Posted by robjames69:
“EE certainly back to being the "#2 soap" ”

In the officials it never wasn't
Even though Emmerdale was a head of it in the Overnights 9 times out of 10 EastEnders was above it in general. (In the officials)
Last Request
13-01-2014
Originally Posted by dan2008:
“In the officials it never wasn't
Even though Emmerdale was a head of it in the Overnights 9 times out of 10 EastEnders was above it in general. (In the officials)”

Its irreverent if the officials mattered whilst LN was in charge she would still be in the job.

ED beat EE in the overnights for months which has never happened before, making it the 2nd best soap at that time.
guestofseth
18-01-2014
Week Averages

Coronation Street - 8.17m (35.7%)
down 0.25m and 0.3% on last week
down 1.15m and 1.4% on last year

EastEnders - 7.44m (32.9%)
up 0.05m and 1.3% from last week
down 1.12m and 2.1% on last year

Emmerdale - 6.81m (32.3%)
down 0.18m but up 0.3% from last week
down 0.60m but up 0.3% from last year
Doctor Bench
18-01-2014
Horrific for Corrie.
Hit Em Up Style
18-01-2014
Be interesting to see what Corrie gets on Monday. I know a few people aren't watching because its too close to home. I wonder if this will be echoed? I think they dragged it out a little longer than they should have tbh.
Citadel
18-01-2014
Originally Posted by Doctor Bench:
“Horrific for Corrie.”

Even though it topped the charts? Slight exagerration on your part.
Doctor Bench
19-01-2014
Originally Posted by Citadel:
“Even though it topped the charts? Slight exagerration on your part. ”

I understand, but those y-o-y drops are very concerning, not just for snow day vs Friday night (which is understandable) but also this year so far, not even Mondays getting 9m. That may all change tomorrow for Hayley but overall they seem to be shedding a lot of viewers.

Granted, EE is also extremely low but they're just coming out of a prolonged bad patch, whereas Corrie seems to be entering one. Certainly the shares ought to be much better.
Citadel
19-01-2014
Originally Posted by Doctor Bench:
“I understand, but those y-o-y drops are very concerning, not just for snow day vs Friday night (which is understandable) but also this year so far, not even Mondays getting 9m. That may all change tomorrow for Hayley but overall they seem to be shedding a lot of viewers.

Granted, EE is also extremely low but they're just coming out of a prolonged bad patch, whereas Corrie seems to be entering one. Certainly the shares ought to be much better.”

EE was averaeing a share of 29% not so long ago, and Corie's 35% share is still pretty healthy. But I do think Corrie is going to shed more viewers as the year progresses, as Stuart Blackburn's endless misery continues to alienate its viewers.
dan2008
19-01-2014
Originally Posted by Citadel:
“EE was averaeing a share of 29% not so long ago, and Corie's 35% share is still pretty healthy. But I do think Corrie is going to shed more viewers as the year progresses, as Stuart Blackburn's endless misery continues to alienate its viewers.”

On Wednesday where EastEnders doesn't normally air and was against Great British Bake off which got over 4million and there was a football match on too so EastEnders held up pretty well. That's the lowest share it's had for sometime (Minus the extra Wednesday showings)

Regarding tomorrow's Corrie I suspect it's ratings will be high for both episodes. A death of a popular character + a lot of promotion via ITV + It's had some front page headlines this week from the Daily Mirror and the sun. It even got a feature in my local newspaper too.
F1Ken
19-01-2014
Originally Posted by dan2008:
“On Wednesday where EastEnders doesn't normally air and was against Great British Bake off which got over 4million and there was a football match on too so EastEnders held up pretty well. That's the lowest share it's had for sometime (Minus the extra Wednesday showings)

Regarding tomorrow's Corrie I suspect it's ratings will be high for both episodes. A death of a popular character + a lot of promotion via ITV + It's had some front page headlines this week from the Daily Mirror and the sun. It even got a feature in my local newspaper too.”

EastEnders could receive a nice boost as well in the Corrie sandwich. It could get over 8m for the first time since Kat and Alfie got back together.

Is a Power surge possible???

I'll phone up Bob after the episode finishes, he usually knows.
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