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Is a plasma TV still the sign of extravagance ?
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DianaFire
27-01-2012
I still have a CRT because I haven't got around to upgrading yet. Probably because I'm a Luddite. Will hang on to my budget until I know what I actually want.
ninjahandfriend
27-01-2012
I've got one of those LED internetty smart tv things. It's a bit rubbish and overhyped really and probably wasn't a wise purchase as who the hell wants to go online on the telly?
pericom
27-01-2012
Originally Posted by Gage:
“It goes 3DLED >>> LED >>> LCD >>> PLASMA >>> CRT

Although I would say CRT still has the best picture quality, but that's a discussion for another thread.”

LOL at 3DLED >>> LED >>> LCD

Those 3 are all LCD.

IMO its OLED-> Plasma -> LCD -> CRT
ScotchMisst
27-01-2012
Originally Posted by coachtrip_fan99:
“Id say large flatscreen are quite often (but not always) a sign of chavvyness.”


Or....a sign that you were rather busy in London last summer and have a hoodie stashed in the cupboard.

I have a flatscreen 32" reconditioned one upstairs, less than 100 quid off ebay, I was forced to upgrade as had to get up every few mins and wiggle the scart on the old one.
Downstairs I have a really big old style 20"....the thought of 3D actually makes me feel sick!
cjsmummy
27-01-2012
We got a 3D LED Smart TV a couple of weeks ago, and the flippin' remote control has gone AWOL already.
Bulletguy1
27-01-2012
Originally Posted by BlizzardUK:
“Whenever you would see one of those benefit related stories in the paper, if the family had a plasma TV on the wall they would be blasted for it. I just wondered if that is still the same these days given CRTs are rarely sold and 42" TVs can be bought for as little as £300, same price as 28" CRTs were 10 years ago.

Also how many people still have a CRT in the main room of their house ?”

Interesting point.

Despite working throughout my life I still had an old CRT TV which was only replaced with a flat screen one year before I retired last year!

The CRT was a 15yr old 29" Toshiba, but still fully working. I was about to dump it as soon as i'd bought this new flat screen when my son begged it off me for a friend of his. Turned out his mate had gone through a bitter divorce, his ex-wife had taken him to the cleaners, and not only had he lost his house, he'd also lost his job and was living in a flat.

I was only too glad it was going to someone like that.
thecharmingman
27-01-2012
Originally Posted by LostFool:
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The one thing I cannot stand is wall mounted TVs, especially above the fireplace. You must get a crick in your neck watching it. Surely the screen should be at the same level as your eyes when sitting down?”


Indeed it should! Actually it should be a little bit below your eye line (same as computer monitors) as this is our natural gaze, imagine hunting on the plains of Africa.......
peter3hg
27-01-2012
Originally Posted by ninjahandfriend:
“I've got one of those LED internetty smart tv things. It's a bit rubbish and overhyped really and probably wasn't a wise purchase as who the hell wants to go online on the telly?”

BBC iPlayer and other streaming services are the main draw. I use it all the time on mine.
late8
27-01-2012
Originally Posted by Gage:
“It goes 3DLED >>> LED >>> LCD >>> PLASMA >>> CRT

Although I would say CRT still has the best picture quality, but that's a discussion for another thread.”

Totally wrong.

The Best 3D TV's you can buy are Plasma ! Officially.

Plasma in general has a better PQ to this day. Better Blacks/Contrast, Better Motion, Better Viewing angle.

Its the Pros choice.


3DPlasma > 3DLEDlcd> 3DLCD
2DPlasma >2DLEDlcd> 2DLCD.

OR CORRECTLY ...... Plasma > LCD

The only one to beat them is OLED which will begin shipping this year for tens of thousands of £.

As for CRT - its still used in reference situations and does give a good PQ- But technology wise its redundant.
TennisFreak08
27-01-2012
My auntie has a wall-mounted 50'' plasma. Watching sport on that thing is amazing. I'd love one.
Saigo
27-01-2012
Yeah, Plasma is better than LED/LCD - deeper blacks, more vibrant colours, greater viewing angles, quicker reponse times, less ghosting, better contrast.

The only downside used to be the price (and perhaps weight and power consumption).

Plasma screen do tend to be larger - 42" + - while LCD tend to be best in smaller sizes. In that way I suppose Plasma can be considered more extravagant, though they are not too expnsive these days.
Sue_Aitch
28-01-2012
'Nother CRT fan here. The set (2512DB Toshiba) is in the lounge.I can listen to TV upstions or airs as i use an STB that has Audio Description that I can use via adapters to the Line In on one of my not-pocket radios.

My Saisho 1988 portable is still inthe family home in Yorkshire.

No set looks good if the settings aren't right and I agreee with those who say the set should be at eyelevel or a little lower. Screen taking the pride of place above the mantelpiece? No thanks.
pocatello
28-01-2012
Originally Posted by Gage:
“It goes 3DLED >>> LED >>> LCD >>> PLASMA >>> CRT

Although I would say CRT still has the best picture quality, but that's a discussion for another thread.”

Sorry no, panel quality is what matters in terms of lcd or plasma. Your cheapest cellphone with an awful lcd screen is "led", the cheapest netbook with god awful display is also "led". Marketing has made a mockery of the term, lcd quality is based on the panel itself, backlight is a minor consideration. Higher end plasmas are still near the top of the scale for picture quality, and most certainly the best bang for your buck now.

More accurate quality ranking is high end plasma = 3dled >>> led/lcd/cheap plasma

Low/mid end plasmas are so low cost now that they cannot be considered extravagant. If you go back and look at what crts cost in decades past and then figured out the cost after inflation you'd see just how cheap these things are compared to the tiny crt sets people used to spend much more on. 42-50" plasma price probably bought you a 27" in the early 90s. Go further back and it gets ugly.
pocatello
28-01-2012
Originally Posted by Saigo:
“Yeah, Plasma is better than LED/LCD - deeper blacks, more vibrant colours, greater viewing angles, quicker reponse times, less ghosting, better contrast.

The only downside used to be the price (and perhaps weight and power consumption).

Plasma screen do tend to be larger - 42" + - while LCD tend to be best in smaller sizes. In that way I suppose Plasma can be considered more extravagant, though they are not too expnsive these days.”


Yea its just peoples expectations are lagging behind the technology, it wasn't that long ago that 50" of display in your home was pretty much unthinkable, cost and space and the rest.

Originally Posted by elliecat:
“we have a crt in the bedroom, we are going to get a flat sreen at some point but when we got our own place we wanted one in the bedroom and I had my old one from years ago sitting in the spare room so we took that with us. The one in the sitting room is a 42inch as my partner is a gamer and he says can't play xbox on a small tv.

But the crt one takes up so much space”

Mounted on a wall they make all the difference in saving space, 42+ makes less intrusion in a room than even a 27" crt, the furniture to carry the tv just wastes a lot of space.



Originally Posted by Sue_Aitch:
“No set looks good if the settings aren't right and I agreee with those who say the set should be at eyelevel or a little lower. Screen taking the pride of place above the mantelpiece? No thanks.”

Yea I hate it when people mount it up that high, its just stupid. Tv should be at eye level, the only way to make a mantle piece mount work is to get a motorized lowering mount designed specifically for that purpose, and those cost thousands. I've had friends get around it by just pretty much blocking off the fireplace with the tv, mounting it at eye level with masonary bolts, that works if you don't care about using your fireplace.
Zero gravitas
28-01-2012
Originally Posted by Ginger Nut:
“Only if it's hung on the wall above the fireplace or at standing height. Then you know it's just someone selling the ideal home myth that doesn't really bother with tv. There will be a dining table with a narrow cloth down the middle of it nearby as well.

Normal people have them at the same height as an old tube. Even if they're on the wall.”

I never could work out why otherwise perfectly sensible people would decide to put a telly at neck breaking height on a wall.
And unless you put your surround speakers up there too it's a tad disorientating.
Silly buggers!
Anika Hanson
28-01-2012
Originally Posted by late8:
“Totally wrong.

The Best 3D TV's you can buy are Plasma ! Officially.

Plasma in general has a better PQ to this day. Better Blacks/Contrast, Better Motion, Better Viewing angle.

Its the Pros choice.


3DPlasma > 3DLEDlcd> 3DLCD
2DPlasma >2DLEDlcd> 2DLCD.

OR CORRECTLY ...... Plasma > LCD

The only one to beat them is OLED which will begin shipping this year for tens of thousands of £.

As for CRT - its still used in reference situations and does give a good PQ- But technology wise its redundant.”

I think they were ranking them in terms of price, so most to least expensive rather than which ones were better.
Parthenon
28-01-2012
Get yourself a BeoVision 10. Then your friends will think you're extravagant.
boksbox
28-01-2012
Originally Posted by cjsmummy:
“We got a 3D LED Smart TV a couple of weeks ago, and the flippin' remote control has gone AWOL already.”

Assuming it's a Samsung, if you have an iPhone or Android phone or device you can control it from that, same probably applies to other manufacturers now.

I have a 3D LED TV and it produces excellent pictues when watching thing such as football in 3D, the high defintion picture is sometimes astonishing and certainly beats my old 36" Sony CRT, somehing I never thought i'd say of a flat screen TV.

Back to the original subject, Colour TV was the weapon of choice when describing 'scrounger's or whatever in the press now they use the generic term flat sceen TV or plasma even it's a LCD.
boksbox
28-01-2012
Originally Posted by cjsmummy:
“We got a 3D LED Smart TV a couple of weeks ago, and the flippin' remote control has gone AWOL already.”

Assuming it's a Samsung, if you have an iPhone or Android phone or device you can control it from that, same probably applies to other manufacturers now.

I have a 3D LED TV and it produces excellent pictues when watching thing such as football in 3D, the high defintion picture is sometimes astonishing and certainly beats my old 36" Sony CRT, somehing I never thought i'd say of a flat screen TV.

Back to the original subject, Colour TV was the weapon of choice when describing 'scrounger's or whatever in the press now they use the generic term flat sceen TV or plasma even it's a LCD.
RebelScum
28-01-2012
Originally Posted by boksbox:
“Assuming it's a Samsung, if you have an iPhone or Android phone or device you can control it from that, same probably applies to other manufacturers now.”

I have a Panasonic VT30, I also have the remote control app on my iPod. In the past if I was in bed and my OH was still up watching tv in the living room and the volume was to high I'd have to get out of bed and ask her to lower it, now I just turn on the app on the iPod and lower the volume without having to get out of bed. She isn't impressed.
LostFool
28-01-2012
Originally Posted by Zero gravitas:
“I never could work out why otherwise perfectly sensible people would decide to put a telly at neck breaking height on a wall.
And unless you put your surround speakers up there too it's a tad disorientating.
Silly buggers!”

The worst setup I've seen had an expensive surround sound system where all the speakers were put next to each other alongside the TV (apparently the owner didn't like the speakers "cluttering the room") and the HDTV and Blu Ray were linked together by SCART.
Zero gravitas
28-01-2012
Originally Posted by LostFool:
“The worst setup I've seen had an expensive surround sound system where all the speakers were put next to each other alongside the TV (apparently the owner didn't like the speakers "cluttering the room") and the HDTV and Blu Ray were linked together by SCART.”

More money than sense IMO.
cjsmummy
28-01-2012
Originally Posted by boksbox:
“Assuming it's a Samsung, if you have an iPhone or Android phone or device you can control it from that, same probably applies to other manufacturers now..”

Really? It is a SamsungTV and I have an Android phone, OH has an iPhone, so how do you go about it?
boksbox
28-01-2012
Originally Posted by cjsmummy:
“Really? It is a SamsungTV and I have an Android phone, OH has an iPhone, so how do you go about it?”

Have a search of the app store on itunes for Samsung remote
boksbox
28-01-2012
Originally Posted by RebelScum:
“I have a Panasonic VT30, I also have the remote control app on my iPod. In the past if I was in bed and my OH was still up watching tv in the living room and the volume was to high I'd have to get out of bed and ask her to lower it, now I just turn on the app on the iPod and lower the volume without having to get out of bed. She isn't impressed.”

Reminds me of 1980, we had a rented TV, Ferguson I think, one of my housemates discovered that you culd increase the volume when mute was one.
So went down to the rental shop in High Chelmer shopping mall one lunchtime, turned all the volumes to max then turned mute off form near the doorway, enough of them went on full blast to scare the poor. solo, salegirl half to death, childish I know.
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