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Beginning of the end for Nadia?
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moogester
25-10-2004
Nadia was listed as being a guest on the Paul O'Grady show this afternoon, it looks as if she has pulled out. This is the new lineup from the itv homepage

Monday 25th October, 5pm

Paul will be joined on today's show by Sue Cleaver, who plays Eileen Grimshaw in Coronation Street and Dannii Minogue who is promoting her new single, Dannii Minogue vs Flower Power; 'You Won't Forget About Me'


It has crossed my mind if she will still be appearing in panto after yesterday's revelations. Panto is a family show, I can see large sections of jobs in entertainment being cut off for her.
Poker Boy
25-10-2004
Lets hope so
Tinker Tailor
25-10-2004
To be honest, although the ratings for this year were good, there's a BB backlash going on. Absolutely no-one I know in my immediate social circle has any inclination to talk about BB anymore despite watching it all the way through. In fact, most of them don't even remember Nadia, Michelle, Victor et al. The fact that most of the BB5 lot have been plunged back into anonymity and obscurity in just a couple of months rather bares this out. Here today, gone tomorrow.....
pony
25-10-2004
I'd imagine the panto thing would be safe. Maybe not, though. I suppose it might depend on the box office. Have the school parties, etc, already block-booked? Who knows? Maybe there is some kind of clause that would enable downward fee negotiation, anyway.

I don't think that there was that much career left for her anyway, even had this not come out. Not her fault. I disliked her, but I don't suppose there was any way she could prolong the attention, it's a flash-in-the-pan sort of fame, and it'd take extraordinary cold-bloodedness and media-savviness to even try to do it. Maybe Shell might like to try!

She kind of won on a novelty ticket, didn't she? To clarify, I am not referring to her gender here - just the larger than life, ott-dress sense of her, the laugh, the explosive personality. Nadia was meant to be "fun", whether you found her so or not. Sad Nadia doesn't seem to work as well. The revelations make her more like a frayed kind of Joe Orton character now.
Mesostim
25-10-2004
I think they'll continue to suffer a backlash until the show returns to basics....less of the hype and bias of the satalite shows and just show whats going on....Maybe even get the pyschologists to present the facts instead of Big Bro propaganda again....Maybe I;m saking to much now the show is all about making Endomol money...

By the way...Nadia has been replaced with a dart playing 5 year old..
Seal Terminator
25-10-2004
I think that her time is the family entertainment circuit.

I know it isn't exactly the BBC, but Janet Ellis was removed from Blue Peter for having a child out of wedlock. Can't remember his name Richard Bacon, out for his Coke.

I doubt that the "Daily Mail" mob will be too happy now Nadia's seedy past has been revealed. I should say the pressure find a replacement is very high, but I am sure she will survive.
Tinker Tailor
25-10-2004
Originally Posted by Seal Terminator:
“I think that her time is the family entertainment circuit.

I know it isn't exactly the BBC, but Janet Ellis was removed from Blue Peter for having a child out of wedlock. Can't remember his name Richard Bacon, out for his Coke.”

Blue Peter also sacked a presenter during the 80's (Michael Sundin) after he was outed by a tabloid, having been caught cavorting naked at a gay orgy. The guy later died of AIDS.
moogester
25-10-2004
I can see future producers of projects including Nadia being very wary. She has said she kept her prostitution quiet at the Big Brother auditions, even when asked if she had any skeletons in her closet. If that has come out nearly three months after Big Brother has finished, what else may come out in the future?
FinalBroadcast
25-10-2004
I'm impressed that it managed to stay in the closet during the show itself - it's a long time to keep things like that away from others.
Mabelle
25-10-2004
"Nadia was meant to be "fun", whether you found her so or not. Sad Nadia doesn't seem to work as well. The revelations make her more like a frayed kind of Joe Orton character now."

I think this may be so.

These revelations put Nadia on a new and trajic tack. Her perception is altered. No panto now, I fear, but if she does an autobioraphy, they can only help sell it.
collymoresdog
25-10-2004
At least Nadia has a career to fall back on. I can't see her making much money from the Desperate Dan fetish market though.
brooksider
25-10-2004
bad press is not going to stop here she can stil get were she wants to , they let stan clolymore be on the farm, let jamie theakson present tv agin, and so as long as the bc don't let it other channels will.
anyone can get on chanel 4 or 5.lots of stars have had a backlash and still back on top again.
pony
25-10-2004
Originally Posted by brooksider:
“bad press is not going to stop here she can stil get were she wants to , they let stan clolymore be on the farm, let jamie theakson present tv agin, and so as long as the bc don't let it other channels will.
anyone can get on chanel 4 or 5.lots of stars have had a backlash and still back on top again.”

Nadia isn't a "proper" star, though, with a tangible media career to fall back on. Lord knows I loathe Theakston, but he was a well known presenter before his revelations appeared. Also, the celebrities you mentioned didn't previously work as prostitutes.

I half-recall a well-known British actor admitting he used to be a semi-rent boy in a casual way, but don't want to name him in case I'm remembering incorrectly! And it was only his word we had for it - there were no kiss and tells. Other than him, I can't think of any major star who "came out" as a prostitute and retained their status. Sure, there are semi-famous ex-hookers, but they're all novelty turns, and usually ex porn stars too!

There's the odd revelation in biographies about (dead) Hollywood stars, but their careers were, of necessity, over. It'd be an achievement for a well loved light entertainment celebrity to overcome this kind of story and reforge a respectable career, never mind just a reality tv winner.
brooksider
25-10-2004
so here i.e music career should not be alowed (have virign dumped here), they are letting abi titmuss release a music record a dance track and she is no star, and shes been in a porn film it has hardly stopped her that worse and she got on hells kitchen.
and that was the only way nadia could pay for her sex change.

why should public figures who are known to even just a select few have to let people know about their whole lives/ why should that stop her its her private lie , your past is the past.

lesley grantham has ben in prision for was it murder/manslaughter whatever and lok how far hes got.

its like seeing your only able to do something if you are perfect
piranhaville
25-10-2004
Originally Posted by FinalBroadcast:
“I'm impressed that it managed to stay in the closet during the show itself - it's a long time to keep things like that away from others.”

I wondered about that too.
pony
25-10-2004
Originally Posted by brooksider:
“so here i.e music career should not be alowed (have virign dumped here), they are letting abi titmuss release a music record a dance track and she is no star, and shes been in a porn film it has hardly stopped her that worse and she got on hells kitchen.
and that was the only way nadia could pay for her sex change.

why should public figures who are known to even just a select few have to let people know about their whole lives/ why should that stop her its her private lie , your past is the past.

lesley grantham has ben in prision for was it murder/manslaughter whatever and lok how far hes got.

its like seeing your only able to do something if you are perfect”

Not just to pay for the sex change - she used the money to go shopping for clothes, etc, too.

Abi Titmus has a niche market - a bit like Shell's - she's a reasonably pretty girl with a fondness for sex and a willingness to pose for cheese-cake pictures and ramble on about her fantasies. If Nadia could fit in this market, possibly the revelations wouldn't matter (though this is debatable - Abi has a "fun" reputation as an uninhibited goer with celebrity boyfriends, not a tragic hooker).

But Nadia could never fit that profile. Nadia couldn't get on the cover of Zoo, etc, if she wanted to (and why would anyone want to, but that's another question!) She was being groomed to be a cuddly family entertainment type, a fun girl, a larger than life favourite. Ex-hooker doesn't fit the profile, especially when she has no track record of poularity in presenting, or acting, and there are thousands of other wanabees out there who aren't carrying the baggage.
misslizzie
25-10-2004
Originally Posted by pony:
“Nadia isn't a "proper" star, though, with a tangible media career to fall back on. Lord knows I loathe Theakston, but he was a well known presenter before his revelations appeared. Also, the celebrities you mentioned didn't previously work as prostitutes.”

Roseanne Barr did. She wrote about it n her memoirs, I'm pretty sure she was taking money - though I could be wrong - either way, she was going out to bar carparks with anyone who felt the urge. She also described the need for attention and subsequent dirty feeling that Nadia does. All in all, it's a pretty grim state to get into.

To me it's fairly clear Nadia was forced into this confession, as she says "but now this has finally come back to haunt me". I feel sad for her, but do wonder exactly how she expected all this to pan out. Perhaps that may partially explain why she got so upset about the shouts over the wall - she must have felt desperately vulnerable after that, as she went in with so many things to feel vulnerable about.
Mesostim
25-10-2004
It's almost as if she didn;t choose to go in there freely of her own will knowing full well she;ll become a household name
Susann
25-10-2004
Originally Posted by misslizzie:
“ she must have felt desperately vulnerable after that, as she went in with so many things to feel vulnerable about.”

If Nadia felt that vulnerable, maybe she should never have gone in the BB house in the first place then.
cougar 662
25-10-2004
Originally Posted by Tinker Tailor:
“Blue Peter also sacked a presenter during the 80's (Michael Sundin) after he was outed by a tabloid, having been caught cavorting naked at a gay orgy. The guy later died of AIDS.”


Glad someone still remembers poor Michael, as he has been conveniently airbrushed out of Blue Peter tv histories by more than one programme maker in recent times. Times have changed but not in some respects.
emose
25-10-2004
just to let you cynics know - Nadia is due to appear on Paul O'Grady's show on Friday !
misslizzie
25-10-2004
Originally Posted by Susann:
“If Nadia felt that vulnerable, maybe she should never have gone in the BB house in the first place then.”

Well, exactly! As I said, what was she thinking?
misslizzie
25-10-2004
Originally Posted by cougar 662:
“Glad someone still remembers poor Michael, as he has been conveniently airbrushed out of Blue Peter tv histories by more than one programme maker in recent times. Times have changed but not in some respects. ”

He really has been airbrushed. I thought I'd heard all the BP gossip, but I'd never heard of this poor soul.
Mabelle
25-10-2004
I wonder if one of nadia's clients was a big knob at endemol. that would explain her winning.
brooksider
25-10-2004
she could always reinvent herself, her past is nothing to do / or should not affect the future she wants, we wil all forget about that its old news we wil just wait and see how well she will do.
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