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As for the colour recovery - it's not perfect, but it's perfectly watchable. It's probably on a par with the old VHS 'recolourised' ones. Just don't expect 'Planet of the Daleks' standard.
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I'm sure I read something on the Restoration Team's website at some point saying they can't put CGI onto Invasion as the right sort of original print hasn't survived.
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That's right. They need dinosaur-free film to be able to add CGI dinosaurs in. The original dinosaur-free film has gone, and all that exists now is the final version. It's far too big a job to paint out the existing dinosaurs and then CGI in new ones, so we're left with the original version.
I'm all for leaving originals as nature intended and not faffing with them. I haven't rewatched the fiddled-with versions of Day of the Daleks or lovely Enlightenment. |
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I haev my fingers crossed for Zygons . . . please have Skarasen free film footage for the CGI team!
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That's right. They need dinosaur-free film to be able to add CGI dinosaurs in. The original dinosaur-free film has gone, and all that exists now is the final version. It's far too big a job to paint out the existing dinosaurs and then CGI in new ones, so we're left with the original version.
I'm all for leaving originals as nature intended and not faffing with them. I haven't rewatched the fiddled-with versions of Day of the Daleks or lovely Enlightenment. As for Invasion of the Dinosaurs, I kind of like the naff effects (which aren't quite as bad as legend has it). But it's a bloody good story. And unlike Uncle Tom's final season, Pertwee wasn't phoning in his performance in his. Still, Pertwee is my favourite Doctor, so any new Pertwee release is fine by me. |
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I've not bothered with the DOTD megamix, but it's the extra scenes, re-filmed stuff, new scenes, bits cut out (etc) approach that has switched me off. There's a certain arrogance in suggesting that the original was poor and the new version is better. "Says who?" is my response to that.
You're right to pick me up on that, DB5, as I didn't get my point across adequately. My point is that replacing "bad" FX with "good" FX is the thin end of the wedge. What else? Replacing bad dialogue? Bad performances? Bad cliffhangers? Where does it end? Who decides what we are allowed to watch? Paddy Russell accepted the final version of IOTD, rightly or wrongly, because that was what she was able to produce with the facilities available to her at that time. |
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Ah! Nyder. Interesting bit of casting. And only SJS being suspicious of Yates so far.
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Oh how marvellous!
I sent PM a fanletter once, and he phoned me a few days later. A deeply weird conversation ensued. |
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Chuff, regarding the degree to which the releases should be tampered with, there was debate early on in the range as to whether goofs such as stray boom mics should be 'painted out'.
I believe they should be left 'as was' and remain so, for that's part of their charm and can add a different angle to viewing pleasure, looking out for the odd BBC camera making an unscheduled appearance, for example. What would Pyramids.. be, without the fabled cushion-holding hand. |
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And unlike Uncle Tom's final season, Pertwee wasn't phoning in his performance in his. Still, Pertwee is my favourite Doctor, so any new Pertwee release is fine by me.
In fact, Invasion Of The Dinosaurs is actually one of my favourite stories to feature his Doctor. His humour always seemed to come out more when UNIT were involved and it was the same with this particular story and I adore the scene where Benton asks The Doctor to knock him out so he can escape. The resulting scene with general Finch is just as good. I think this is one of my fave Benton stories as well.
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Oh how marvellous!
I sent PM a fanletter once, and he phoned me a few days later. A deeply weird conversation ensued.
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I've finally got round to watching the DVD of this, good story, but the dinosaurs are absolutely horrific!!!
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Horrific scary?
or Horrific crap? |
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Real shame they didn't do some CGI improvements to this story.
Who was never about special effects but this is the one story where they are so bad in places they do let down what is a rather good story. Too expensive to undertake apparently . I'd rather see Invasion of the Dinosaurs with the rubbish rubber toy monsters than some really bad (SyFy Channel monster movie style) CGI.
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Horrific scary?
or Horrific crap? And what makes it worse is that they just stand there growling like dogs, and don't even bother attacking! |
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Bit late to the party but I've just started watching IotD and it's bringing back some very happy memories as it was the first story I ever saw, back when I were a lad.
Yes the Dinosaurs are rubbish, which is a shame as they were the selling point of the story, but as everyone above seems to agree, there's so much more to this story. The characters are, as always in a Hulke script, very deftly drawn. The double crossing criminal in part one was only a minor role but excellently sketched out and portrayed. I've only seen the first two episodes so far, but I'm having a great time. The kids are enjoying it, especially Pertwee's comedy scenes in the lab. Great comic timing as he locks one door only to have the Brig come in from the other door. Also a big 'oh no' moment as Mike enters Whitaker's lair. Interesting that part one was colourised. I didn't realise this and happily watched in B&W as that's how the DVD default was set. The empty London streets look quite eerie in B&W. Apart from the dinosaurs the only problem I have with this story is the length of the soldiers' hair. Far too long and bushy! |
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Bit late to the party but I've just started watching IotD and it's bringing back some very happy memories as it was the first story I ever saw, back when I were a lad.
Yes the Dinosaurs are rubbish, which is a shame as they were the selling point of the story, but as everyone above seems to agree, there's so much more to this story. The characters are, as always in a Hulke script, very deftly drawn. The double crossing criminal in part one was only a minor role but excellently sketched out and portrayed. I've only seen the first two episodes so far, but I'm having a great time. The kids are enjoying it, especially Pertwee's comedy scenes in the lab. Great comic timing as he locks one door only to have the Brig come in from the other door. Also a big 'oh no' moment as Mike enters Whitaker's lair. Interesting that part one was colourised. I didn't realise this and happily watched in B&W as that's how the DVD default was set. The empty London streets look quite eerie in B&W. Apart from the dinosaurs the only problem I have with this story is the length of the soldiers' hair. Far too long and bushy! And yes, the Brigs hair was certainly slightly longer from the beginning of the 1973/4 series!
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Glad you're enjoying it. It's a great wee story from Jon's final year in the role. I like the first episode in B&W. Really atmospheric.
And yes, the Brigs hair was certainly slightly longer from the beginning of the 1973/4 series! ![]() |
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Well, if you think they look hairy, have you seen the Pertwee adventure Inferno, in which Sergeant Benton, in an alternate reality, is turned into a kind of werewolf by chemical poisoning?
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Well, if you think they look hairy, have you seen the Pertwee adventure Inferno, in which Sergeant Benton, in an alternate reality, is turned into a kind of werewolf by chemical poisoning?
But it was difficult not to laugh when Benton turns into a ?primord? It was brilliant make up but I don't think it had the desired effect of horror!! It reminded me of when Harry H Corbett changed into that creature in "Carry On Screaming"!!!
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Ah, "Inferno", up there with the best Pertwee stories.
But it was difficult not to laugh when Benton turns into a ?primord? It was brilliant make up but I don't think it had the desired effect of horror!! ![]()
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I also found it funny-especially that close-up where he looks right into the camera and snarls. I cannot believe that wasn't deliberately being played partly for laughs!
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But it was difficult not to laugh when Benton turns into a ?primord? It was brilliant make up but I don't think it had the desired effect of horror!!
It reminded me of when Harry H Corbett changed into that creature in "Carry On Screaming"!!! |
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There was another funny sequence when Benton's time was reversed, and he got transformed into a baby, in the laboratory, in Time Monster. At the end, he changes back, and stands up, without clothes on, looking baffled, and asking what happened, while everyone else is cracking up!
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I'd rather see Invasion of the Dinosaurs with the rubbish rubber toy monsters than some really bad (SyFy Channel monster movie style) CGI.