Interested to see what people think about the routine?

I was blown away by it and thought they had really pushed themselves to create such a fast and beautiful routine. Almost all new lifts which I no was a point being made on here about repetition of moves. Everything flowed gracefully and as usual for them there seemed to be no 'lifts for lifts sake'. I think something they do better than anyone is the skating in between lifts, there's no stopping and starting it just flows from one thing to another seamlessly.

The only things that annoyed me were the camera angles at times and I would have preferred them skating to the single version than a live version, I don't think it sounds anywhere near as good!

Anyway I think it's obvious how much I was impressed by the routine, I'd like to know what others thought?

I thought it was really good too. Before that performance, I thought that they were too old to do a proper routine. But doing 'ice dancing' isn't just about dangerous lifts on one hand or head bangers or getting your foot up next to your ear. Its also about dancing and the dance aspect and story telling of that performance was amazing.


Plus after all the celebs performances it was strange to see a women skate who isn't being pushed or pulled by her partner all the time.

Why don't the celebs do a routine like that instead of routines where it is massive lift, a few steps, a stumble, then another massive lift, then it ends?

I think on the few occasions couples have tried to leave out or minimise the lifts the routines haven't gone down well with the judges and/or viewers. I agree though, I'd be happy to see more routines closer to ice dance than to pair skating.

the dancing was out of this world the singing though well thats a different story

This, I had to watch it again as the singing was so bad it was distracting, a very lovely routine.

I actually loved their performance and wished they danced every week. To watch them swishing over the ice at great speed is far more exciting to me than lift after lift.

The live singing though was quite painful.

Haha! I'd love to know if anyone at all out there liked the singing

That's it exactly.

My favourite dance they have ever done in any series of DOI. Beautiful.

I think I may just feel the same! and there's a lot of serious contenders!! I think it's the best though, closely followed by your song, someone like you and from a distance and I'm sure there's others I've forgotten too

The song didn't come across well live. If only they had skated it to the record, which IMO is tons better...

I actually prefered it to the Strictly one where she performed while Pros Kristina Rianhoff and Robin were dancing. Apparently her sales went up after that, so maybe they went up again after the Torville and Dean calaboration as well, lol.

They all look the same to me.

I thought the song was awful done live, can't see her sales rising after that.
T&D were great, I love watching them.

Christina Perri wasn't great live but I'd say she was much better than she was when she performed live on Strictly - it was awful.

I thought the routine was good but the singing was terrible. I don't like that Jar of Hearts song anyway. It's a really boring song.

It was lovely! I always enjoy their routines.

Jar of hearts is a beautiful song as is Christina Perry.

I agree that the song is great and Christina is a lovely girl BUT - and this is important - that performance was dreadful.

Why don't they get someone who can sing live? Without miming, of course.

I'm sure the celebs would love to do a routine like that but Jane & Chris are Olympic level skaters while the celebs are beginners. None of them can hold an edge or do a smooth turn or get the balance right for such a routine or get such effortless speed and fluency. The lifts are in there for the celebs because they can't skate very well.

Well ... they aren't all being pushed or pulled all the time. Jorgie, for example, did some skating on her own and even a little jump.

Besides, even when the woman's in contact with her partner, she's not always just being pushed or pulled.



I agree with kochspostulates there. Of course, the celebs couldn't do such a routine at anywhere near T&D's level, but surely they could so something a bit more like that and a bit less like a series of awkwardly separated lifts.

I Completely get what u mean but I agree with 'icedragon'... Such a lot of skating even what appears 'basic' is all about using edges and changes of edge and it's something that must be really difficult as I don't recall many celebs being competent at it. Chris Fountain certainly could but even ray struggled to do it as his required element. I don't no much about the technical side but to me Chico seems to have a great awareness of what his feet need to do, more so than Matthew in my opinion

They could do more dancing 'on the ice' rather than lifts in the air but what most of them can do is so limited that really it would be pretty boring. Everyone seems to expect the standard to get better year on year and the only way they have achieved that is by having more and more celebs with relevant experience whether it be gymnastics, dancing, ice hockey or skating lessons and still they need the lifts to make it a 'show' that the general public will enjoy.

Watching a really good skater do lovely long edges and fabulous turns is one thing. Watching celebs unable to hold an edge or do anything with any speed or ice coverage is quite different. I skate so I know how hard it is and while I'd like to see the celebs made to do more skating I understand it wouldn't be very exciting to watch for most people.

Watching Chris Dean even just stroking round a rink on the other hand is pure pleasure.

The idea isn't to change to routines that are about technical details; it's to have more skating, and more dancing, and less being up in the air.

In countries that naturally have more ice, plenty of people learn to do such things as smooth turns despite not being consciously aware of the details of edge use.

Remember that the male celebs are pretty much never lifted (there are occasional exceptions); so their part of the routine already is pretty much all skating (or should / could be). There's no reason the women couldn't skate more too.

Besides, we've see quite a lot of enjoyable non-lift stuff over the years.

Ah I see I was just making a comment in return to you saying the celebs could do a routine more like Jayne and Chris' and to me that was the obvious difference.

I do see the lift problem though. It's a tough one however as if the celeb can't skate it's a good filler and if they can the routines look more exciting. But there's nothing worse than seeing someone who looks awful in the air repeatedly doing lifts