well im off to drs at 11.30, not sure if can see my usual, but hope so, please keep thread going in my absence

Shem, muddy and killingtime I have loved your posts between the threads my loves

Here's a question I am asking on a few of the AT's -

On the first night, who did you THINK would be the winner?

And who did you WANT to be the winner, based on your first impressions?

I thought STEVE would win.

On first impressions, I wanted Mario to win.. how things soon change!

On entry to the house, first impressions and all - Josie.

Always thought Josie would win but didn't mind who out of Josie and John - thought Josie would win ahead of John though as some peeps couldn't quite get the Australian male characteristics behind John.

Morning all.

Cheeky i thought from the first moment i saw her that Josie would win.
I wish i had had a bet on her. Too bad so sad.

After a few days i WANTED Josie or John to win.
They both interested me from the start.

John because he was funny, astute and i could tell that he wasn't the typical
stereotype that he looked. ( The fact that he is one of the most beautiful men i have ever seen
did help too i must admit)
Shame on me , i know i am old enough to be his granny but i have always liked a pretty face.

Josie because she was funny , caring, and warm hearted and she tried sooo hard to hide her
insecurities( biggest girl in the house being one of them).
My heart went out to her from the first night,

Morning (just)

When I first saw both of them I disliked them, I'm tough nut to crack. I thought John looked like an arrogant ponce and Josie looked like a mouthy cow and I sighed when they both entered. Shame on me. I don't think I liked any of them when they first entered the house. However within a few days I totally loved them both and loved watching shabby and ben but didn't feel the same level of affection for them. I think it was obvious from the first week that Josie would win, once John had a go at rachel 1, it was obvious he wasn't going to have the temperament to win it, even with all the female admirers. That series actually taught me a lot about not judging people on first impressions and that there are a lot of amazing people out there if I gave them a chance. However the last series took away that renewed faith, as no matter how much I watched, I didn't feel like they had any depth, any light and shade etc I would have hated to be in the house with the people in BB12.

Afternoon all


Me too

Sorry i was on the phone.
Morning Muddy. Good posts from you i see. Well done.
I did not like BB12 mix either.
I did not mind Aaron and Harry but never took to anybody
the way i took to John, Josie, Dave and Rachel 2.
Liked Mario for about an hour then could see that he was going to turn into a brat.
Did not like ben at all, AT ALL.
The rest were of no consequence to me.

Hope there is a better mix this year.

Hello again thread


It's not something I really think about until near the end


First impressions? :/ all I can remember about the highlight shows the first couple of weeks was that they mostly seemed to focus on Shabby and I wasn't watching live feed then so I didn't really have any other thoughts than it seemed like it might be worth watching that year as there appeared to be some diverse characters.


Funny, I never thought Steve would win

Muddy's unfluffy posts make me laugh and Shem your posts yesterday made me think

Now my son has turned up .
Godamn it.

He is doing my shopping for me this week as my daughter is in Ireland.
I have'nt even done my list yet, so i had better move myself.

Hate doing it in a rush coz i will forget half of what i want , i know i will.

See you all laters Shem xx

Afternoon everyone. I thought from the start Josie would be the winner. When the camera first picked her out of the crowd I knew I would like her. I'm one of those people that only has to look at a person to know whether I'd like them or not. John not sure of at first, then I liked his quirkiness after about 3 days. I felt there was some chemistry between them both in the first couple of days, but didn't know where it would lead.

See you later - back to work for me now

Jacky, please come onto the thread love xxx

Afternoon, just on my lunch it's funny how 2 of Johns mates have mentioned him on twitter, maybe they know he is going to start tweeting again

My first impresions were i liked Josie from when her name was called, took me a while to warm to John, didn't like the way he wanted to go into the diary room all the time, the way he was with Rachael, but watching the way he was with Josie i had a change of heart about him, even thought i wanted Josie to win from the start i always thought it would be Steve, thought he'd get there with sympathy votes, i could take or leave the rest of them but near the end began to like Corin As for BB12, didn't like anyone, too contrived, all too false,all just there to play the fame game Maggi X

See? lol, unfluffy , mawnin muddy

Shem, absoultely loved your posts yesterday, so much time and effort gone into your analysis, think you have John and Josie worked out perfectly Maggi X

well interesting at the drs got there at 11.20 for app at 11.30, the place was packed and loads more came in, they had to fetch more chairs, and guess what everyone had app for 11.30. there was about 4 or 5 kids screaming there heads off and they did see them first and i actually came out at 12.55 and there was about 10 after me they had 3 drs working and its so that everyone who wants to be seen today can be

afternoon lol....I didn't realise just how much of my dark side I am letting out...killingtime sees all!!

I'm just going to type out my randomness here and apologise for doing so. I'm trying to get my head around it all. Trying to get my head around John's reactions in his tweeting fest indirectly worded towards Josie, especially when a friend of his tweets out 'feed the pony' a line from a programme that both John and Josie are fans.

You know from that tweet IF we read between the lines, is it indirectly telling us that John now needs to lift his head, remove his true feelings towards Josie and start looking at other women?

I do wonder if the content of Josies 'contact' with John has been 'me me me' based. You know, asking him to tweet out something that will remove the hate from her timeline. Fair do's some might say but if we look at it from John's point of view he has had his fair share of hate tweeted to him, in fact he's been the target of some rather nasty threatening tweets from men including the latest who chipped into the conversation with Mario regarding John - RockingRobinBox - who it transpires is someone who has met and is in communicardo with Josie. Is John actually thinking that as far as Josie is concerned it's her side she wants help with but as far as feelings towards John are concerned nothing has been mentioned only assistance in asking his fans to back off.. For almost a year Josie has been telling us that John was the opposite of what she led us to believe whilst they were together. Is it that all this time all that John has been waiting for is for Josie to actually speak in public of her love for John, what a beautiful relationship they had, he meant the world to her, he cared for her deeply, was only in the UK for Josie, she misses him deeply and if only she could have her time over again she would, and indeed in private with John to say the same. To actually declare both publicly and privately that she would give it all up to be with the love of her life, mag, tv, etc money is worthless without the one true love. Whereas all he reads and watches is negativity towards him publicly. We don't know whether John is indeed doing the same as he is the International Man of Mystery. Perhaps all the above would have been all it needed, to soften John's resolve, to melt his heart, to bring him back to her. Don't get me wrong they both give it, not just one of them. BOTH.

I guess what I'm talking about is insecurities on both sides. John imo never believed Josie truly loved him and on her part Josie never truly believed John loved her. They did, deeply. Josie had the power to devastate John and she did.

Sorry this isn't supposed to be a one sided post, I'm just trying to work out some of the rumblings I have in my soul at the moment. I could be completely wrong but if I consistently felt someone was mentioning me in a mag week in week out in the manner Josie has then I feel sure I would feel the same as John. However all mentions mean the person has no way moved on imo.

Perhaps John feels that Josie is all take and no give, perhaps Josie believes John hates her because of his twitter ramblings. Fine line between love and hate imo.

Just my randomness, hope I don't upset anyone with this post as I never meant to. Just trying to work this pesky pair out.

wendy u not up set me this a post from ur harte and i think a lot see it like this it a funny set up i do think josie coming across as me me me and she dozent think she did enthing rong but we no that not true and this is the first time iv nown u do have ur say in this way and i like it xx

im here wendy only just got home


good post wendy and heart felt i think


i agree with you deb

afternoon all hope everyone is ok today

but she did say very nice things about him but i think when he said he didnt want her and she was his past and sherrie was his future if she had carried on saying she loved him which she might have at the time she would have looked silly he said he loved somebody else well that is what the mag said he said he wanted to clear up that he hadnt cheated on her wasnt bothered about anything else that was in the mag but he never said he had a new girlfriend or not he liked to keep people guessing about that and she did say that she did things wrong in the last ok interview this is not baiting i am not trying to bait i am looking at it as i see it from my view

Hi Cheeky....hi everyone....

Internet playing up big time at home. Having a sneaky peek at work.

I liked Josie from the get go. Thought her VT was great..not taking herself too seriously or bigging herself up. Usually what they spout on their VT's turns out to be nothing like what they are in the house. I thought John looked quite shy and seemed to just want to get into that house as quick as possible. Warmed to him more when they were sitting on the sofas telling each other all about themselves. Never really get into it till after the first couple of weeks until the "clicks" form, and was getting a bit fed up with the Shabby & Keeva show. As a veteran since BB1 wish I had gone with my instinct a placed a bet on Josie.
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yeah agree with you i think the shabby keeva show ran a bit to long as well, the first couple of weeks seemed to be all about them when there was still quite a few interesting characters in the house. i thought josie would win from the off set but after a few weeks i thought john could win as well and he did have the fan base to win but one or the other had to go for one of them to win imo