[GOGO2]

I'm happy with the verdict. Frank is a brilliant charactor and I'm glad he's free to carry on being the arogant, nasty peice of work thats made Corrie so watchable the last few months. He'll get whats coming to him, it's just not time yet!

[SULLA]

Originally Posted by ElleBelle

Irrelevant to you perhaps, but not to me. It's hard to believe she is now so concerned about helping her daughter when for years she watched her struggling and did sod all.

There's no excuse for abandoning your child. If she wanted a relationship with a young Leanne, she would have done everything in her power to ensure she had one. She didn't even bother.

Watching her lecture people on the damage they've done to Leanne is laughable.

The past is the past. As long as Leanne now accepts her, that's all what matters.

[Fiz's Frizz]

Originally Posted by GOGO2

I'm happy with the verdict. Frank is a brilliant charactor and I'm glad he's free to carry on being the arogant, nasty peice of work thats made Corrie so watchable the last few months. He'll get whats coming to him, it's just not time yet!

I don't get it, there was all this hype about this huge announcement last night, but I thought it had already been announced!?!? It wasn't new to me?? Did I dream it?

[wallo mr slug]

Originally Posted by laurenlawson

Milton isn't funny.

I'm not sure what to make of him yet.

Originally Posted by agatha_crispies

I played the off-duty pilot in that.

KornerKabin was my wingman

Good times

That's my favourite movie ever. Seen it 25 times

Originally Posted by avon942

This man is chillingly evil!

Isn't he just?

Originally Posted by KornerKabin

I've done that before.

*snort*

Originally Posted by kittykat30

That verdict is correct as far as the evidence goes. The jury had no choice really.

Agreed, with the evidence provided, a guilty verdict would never have happened.

Originally Posted by Pickpuss

And if I'm not mistaken wasn't she seen by a police doctor after, so surely more evidence there?

If the evidence isn't strong enough, it won't reach court. The CPS have a batch of unused evidence

Originally Posted by Vincy82

Disgraceful outcome scriptwriters. Your're sending out the wrong message here. You had a chance to show that rapists do not get away with and you bottled it.

Oh but they do, more often than you'd think

Originally Posted by friendlyguy2

Cannot stand Foster's mother. Snotty, bumped up silly old cow.

Neil Manson on The Bill was a better character in every way.

Frank Foster is just a waste of space and a hopeless liar.

I think he's a brilliant liar

Originally Posted by television2004

Surely Frank has had a lucky let off. With at least 3 of Carla's ex's all meeting untimely deaths, Paul, Liam and Tony. Could Peter be next?

There's still time

Originally Posted by fefster

Hayley "Roy dosen't have the killer instinct, at least not in business".

What could this mean - does she mean he does IN BED????

Of course that's what she means. Roy is likely a dynamo in t'sack

Originally Posted by MsWilder11

Go for it Stella!

Loved Stella's rant at Carla

Originally Posted by SecretLifeoBees

Poor Ken.... he was only doing something.

Never gets old

Originally Posted by agatha_crispies

Her actions pale into insignificance next to his. That's the problem with the way these two storylines have been juxtaposed. People are far more angry with Carla than they are with Frank.

I see what you're saying but in real life, these things can go hand in hand and I found that it effectively showed that any part of your character or past can be dragged up and used against you in court. It's true. I know of a case from the charity group I support where a thirty year old victim had the fact that she shoplifted once at 14 brought up to show her as an unreliable witness. In reality Carla's affair with Peter would make people believe Frank more.

Originally Posted by Karen1969

Watching on sky+ so a bit behind why would Frank go to the Rovers he doesn't even live near there

To gloat

Originally Posted by callumfreeman

It was all just a moment of madness, they made him do it.

He just wanted to teach!

[smashbox]

Originally Posted by ElleBelle

I think the difference is I don't see that as defending her daughter - I see that as simply taking her anger out on other people. Leanne wasn't there, she didn't need her protection. Her pain at discovering her husband's infidelity and her friend's betrayal was not going to be healed by Stella shouting the odds. In reality, it was about making Stella feel better and for that I do think she's got a bit of a nerve, considering her own actions.

It's called loyalty and it's whats done in soapland. I think you are in the monority with your opinion.

You also forget it wasn't just about Leanne... Stella wanted to let Carla know she knew about her lieing and drink driving.

[valkay]

I'm pleased Carla got her comeuppance.

[rayofsunshine]

Originally Posted by Goldbear86

I've been through what Carla has been through. I've always said that Corrie have handled the whole story badly so I can't say Im surprised with the outcome.

It doesn't make me feel any worse about my situation. I know that many rapists get away with it. I never reported my case as I wasn't strong enough emotionally or physically for a court case. I expected a not guilty verdict based on the reveal of the affair and the fact that Carla went on to work with Frank and form a relationship with him after what he did to Maria. Let's not forget she didn't believe Maria.

What does make me feel worse is the aftermath, rape is still quite a taboo subject and it's difficult for people to truly understand what you have been through. The fact that they have written Carla as entering into a new relationship within weeks of the attack is the wrong message. The reality is not like that and corrie used a sensitive subject like rape to push two characters together which it should never have been.

I'm so sorry to hear you've been through a similar ordeal. I hope you're okay

Yes, the new relationship was poorly played. What i would have liked to have seen, was for Peter to realize that he had these feelings for Carla, but for Carla to be too afraid/emotionally not ready to be intimate with someone. So we would have continued to see the emotional affair between Carla and Peter, and although it would have been slightly more phsycail - the hugs/stroking/maybe the odd kiss, it wouldn;t have become the lurid, wanton affair we were watching.

Originally Posted by norbitonite

For me, the other flaw in the logic of this was she discovered that Carla lied about the accident, ergo she must also be lying about the rape, yet Frank lied about the accident, too, so why could it not be him who is lying about the rape? Especially as Maria also claims Frank attempted to rape her and Stella has no reason to disbelieve her.

Very interesting logic. I hope that Stella comes to realize that what she said was too harsh, and that lieing about a car crash does not mean that you've lied about a rape. Perhaps when things come out in the open - Frank's true colours have been exposed - Stella and Carla can sit down and talk, with Carla telling Stella how sorry she is for the crash and really explain the situation, and Stella can tell her she was sorry for doubting the rape. I would like to see that.

[smashbox]

Also why was Carla saying we didn't mean to hurt Leanne... We tried to fight it. What a lieing cow she's been throwing herself at Peter for over a year now... even when Leanne miscarried.

[Goldbear86]

Originally Posted by rayofsunshine

I'm so sorry to hear you've been through a similar ordeal. I hope you're okay

Yes, the new relationship was poorly played. What i would have liked to have seen, was for Peter to realize that he had these feelings for Carla, but for Carla to be too afraid/emotionally not ready to be intimate with someone. So we would have continued to see the emotional affair between Carla and Peter, and although it would have been slightly more phsycail - the hugs/stroking/maybe the odd kiss, it wouldn;t have become the lurid, wanton affair we were watching.



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thanks for that.

I agree. That would have been a far more realistic portrayal. I don't think it's something I'll ever get over, I've just learned to cope with it a bit better. But it took me a long time to think about another relationship or even want to be close to a man.

I think it would have been better for Peter and Carla if things had been written slower. With Carla practically leaping into bed with Peter it's removed sympathy she might have had.

[thejoyof_pat]

Can I ask? Did Carla go straight to the police after the rape? If so why wasn't one of the evidence pieces not about the brusing down below? I know it's before the watershed but surely their was a way to address that.

[Fayecorgasm]

Originally Posted by thejoyof_pat

Can I ask? Did Carla go straight to the police after the rape? If so why wasn't one of the evidence pieces not about the brusing down below? I know it's before the watershed but surely their was a way to address that.

He went out to get a curry after the rape and when he came back the police were waiting for him according to the court evidence , I cant remember it seems ages ago now but he said it himself so I assume it's true .
I am not sure why the physical evidence was brushed aside except for the fact they needed him to get off the charge so that they could have the follow up storyline

[boogie woogie]

Good double bill, albeit not as strong as Thursday's excellent installment- which was easily up there with Becky's exit as being one of the best Corrie eps so far this year. It was completely obvious that Frank was gonna be found innocent, particularly after his "breakdown" in the witness box. Enjoyed Stella's cross examination of Frank and her confrontation with Carla and Peter outside the Barlows' but I wish that she hadn't gone down the route of doubting Carla about the actual rape.

[SULLA]

Originally Posted by boogie woogie

Good double bill, albeit not as strong as Thursday's excellent installment- which was easily up there with Becky's exit as being one of the best Corrie eps so far this year. It was completely obvious that Frank was gonna be found innocent, particularly after his "breakdown" in the witness box. Enjoyed Stella's cross examination of Frank and her confrontation with Carla and Peter outside the Barlows' but I wish that she hadn't gone down the route of doubting Carla about the actual rape.

Not Guilty is not the same as Innocent.

[lotty27]

Exactly SULLA, just not enough evidence to convict.

Perhaps we too should have that 'Not Proven' like the Scottish courts?