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JOEHERE
10-02-2012
Originally Posted by matth10:
“it's full of shit i mean who wants to listen to lady gaga and justin bieber for ffs, there's too much of rubbish music, over the last 10 years there has been good music but lately its just full of nonsense, thanks to the x-factor as well the music industry is going down the gutter and you can all thank simon cowell for that..

Thoughts ?”

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I hope these guys get big, they could do music the world of good: http://www.youtube.com/user/eastarbor19
Eric_Blob
11-02-2012
Originally Posted by iseloid:
“I dont think Gaga did it to conform, and remember she was the biggest electro singer of the times. So its not to do with conformity. She is talented too (songwriting etc). Taio's early stuff was ok but nothing special, even from an R&B perspective. His new material (2nd album) was catchier and better IMO. His debut was ok but lukewarm musically. Pitbull could go into reggaeton, he speaks spanish and there is a big latin market. I think most artists will survive as they have strengths in other areas, be it vocally, or dancing ability/songwriting. Gaga was great on You and I, and being non electro is better for her actually. Beyonce showed she can do whatever and make good music. I think people changed directions, but didnt copy each other.

You have to remember that dance now has become an industry shift, and initially it wouldve been an internal shift. Also they make records at the same time, behind closed doors. Some music made in early 2011 has just come out now/will be out soon, so its not a case of bandwagoning at all. If you listen to guetta v gaga the music is electro but not similar at all.

Guetta is more club style whereas Gaga isnt. Some of her stuff you can dance to but most IMO, you cant.
I think its mainly Guetta to blame. He did start (in terms of dance) this whole feat. DJ business especially with big recording artists and his club records became hits (mainly here, he didnt get many big US hits before) and so people got used to it. Before he was good, but now his stuff is vacuous. He's a good songwriter though.

You have to sometimes listen to the lyrics of songs, most have a point. Electro/dance it doesnt matter, its the lyrical content that is equally as important - ie Poker Face, its a tune but the lyrics are brilliant, a song full of metaphors for a subject that is important in the LGBT scene, be it bisexuality, plus sex and gambling; personal stuff to Gaga. People seem to think Gaga is style and nothing more when she's quite the opposite.”

Timbaland is more to blame than David Guetta (or even Lady Gaga) for the generic dance music everybody is doing atm.

In 2004 it was dominated by RnB, and in 2011 it was dominated by dance. It was Timbaland (along with Nelly Furtado, Justin Timberlake, and many others) that bridged the gap between the two during the 2005-2007 period, until in 2008 when pure electropop songs like Hot N Cold, Disturbia, Womanizer, etc. were getting to #1. And THEN David Guetta blew up, so he only became massively popular after the dance music came back I think.

I'm interested for what happens in the future, but the chart music that past few years has been very boring imo. It found it very exciting before though.
Hav_mor91
11-02-2012
If you don't like the top 40 turn away as other have mentioned it is not hard to find interesting well put together music
iseloid
11-02-2012
Originally Posted by Eric_Blob:
“Timbaland is more to blame than David Guetta (or even Lady Gaga) for the generic dance music everybody is doing atm.

In 2004 it was dominated by RnB, and in 2011 it was dominated by dance. It was Timbaland (along with Nelly Furtado, Justin Timberlake, and many others) that bridged the gap between the two during the 2005-2007 period, until in 2008 when pure electropop songs like Hot N Cold, Disturbia, Womanizer, etc. were getting to #1. And THEN David Guetta blew up, so he only became massively popular after the dance music came back I think.

I'm interested for what happens in the future, but the chart music that past few years has been very boring imo. It found it very exciting before though.”

Perhaps. But Timbaland made some great records though, not pure rubbish. We'll see. Most will be ok, rihanna can go back to r&b and reggae, gaga - whatever, same for beyonce, adele is fine, if dances fades in 2012, then rebecca ferguson could be a success in the US. Music is better than ever, (ah you said chart...beg your pardon)...
cnbcwatcher
11-02-2012
Originally Posted by Eraserhead:
“Has anyone been watching those old Top of the Pops shows from 1976 and 1977? I'm afraid a lot of pop / chart music was just as shit back then as it is now. It was just more varied shit back then.”

Yeah I've seen some of those shows. Some of the songs are dreadful! I was a 90s kid and there was a fair amount of rubbish in the 90s as well (Aqua anyone? ).

Originally Posted by iseloid:
“I dont think Gaga did it to conform, and remember she was the biggest electro singer of the times. So its not to do with conformity. She is talented too (songwriting etc). Taio's early stuff was ok but nothing special, even from an R&B perspective. His new material (2nd album) was catchier and better IMO. His debut was ok but lukewarm musically. Pitbull could go into reggaeton, he speaks spanish and there is a big latin market. I think most artists will survive as they have strengths in other areas, be it vocally, or dancing ability/songwriting. Gaga was great on You and I, and being non electro is better for her actually. Beyonce showed she can do whatever and make good music. I think people changed directions, but didnt copy each other.

You have to remember that dance now has become an industry shift, and initially it wouldve been an internal shift. Also they make records at the same time, behind closed doors. Some music made in early 2011 has just come out now/will be out soon, so its not a case of bandwagoning at all. If you listen to guetta v gaga the music is electro but not similar at all.

Guetta is more club style whereas Gaga isnt. Some of her stuff you can dance to but most IMO, you cant.
I think its mainly Guetta to blame. He did start (in terms of dance) this whole feat. DJ business especially with big recording artists and his club records became hits (mainly here, he didnt get many big US hits before) and so people got used to it. Before he was good, but now his stuff is vacuous. He's a good songwriter though.

You have to sometimes listen to the lyrics of songs, most have a point. Electro/dance it doesnt matter, its the lyrical content that is equally as important - ie Poker Face, its a tune but the lyrics are brilliant, a song full of metaphors for a subject that is important in the LGBT scene, be it bisexuality, plus sex and gambling; personal stuff to Gaga. People seem to think Gaga is style and nothing more when she's quite the opposite.”

Excellent post. As for Lady Gaga, she's actually really good when it's just her and the piano so maybe she'd do well in the future as a singer-songwriter. She could even do a jazz album. She was brilliant on that duet with Tony Bennett (The Lady Is A Tramp?)
iseloid
11-02-2012
Originally Posted by cnbcwatcher:
“Yeah I've seen some of those shows. Some of the songs are dreadful! I was a 90s kid and there was a fair amount of rubbish in the 90s as well (Aqua anyone? ).



Excellent post. As for Lady Gaga, she's actually really good when it's just her and the piano so maybe she'd do well in the future as a singer-songwriter. She could even do a jazz album. She was brilliant on that duet with Tony Bennett (The Lady Is A Tramp?)”

True. Marry the night acoustic is stunning but the single/album version IMO is awful it takes away from the song's lyrics - same for edge of glory. electro works with BTW, Judas and her other hits but not those two. Its not the big artists who have to be worried, its the bandwagoners ie taio cruz etc.
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