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Old 12-02-2012, 09:39
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Hi everyone,

Out for buying a new TV.
I think i've whittled it down to a choice of 2.

TX-P42GT30B - Neo Plasma
http://www.panasonic.co.uk/html/en_G...486/index.html


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LG 42LW650T - LED
http://www.lg.com/uk/tv-audio-video/...v-42LW650T.jsp

Both appear to deliver outstanding picture quality and boast superb features, and both are around the same price point.
Just wondered what you guys recommend, and why?

Your thoughts are appreciated.
Thanks
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Old 12-02-2012, 10:48
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Could go into details but it has been done to death on here now...

Plasma will give you the most natural & best picture with high motion resolution. Best for 3D Movies & Sport + Reference

LED will give you the brightest poppy and colourful. Best for Games and Bright rooms with lower power consumption.


out of those the GT30. However the GT50 will be out in the next few months. Might be best waiting for those. The new range have higher brightness and better blacks + even thinner amongst other things.
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Old 12-02-2012, 12:10
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I'd go with the Plasma - the reviews are all excellent:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Panasonic-TX-P42GT30B-Internet-Ready-Installation-Recommended/dp/B004QWYOBY
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Old 12-02-2012, 12:51
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If it's in a normal lounge/family scenario the LED-LCD would be the tech of choice for me........No real competition IMO.
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Old 12-02-2012, 13:18
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Thanks guys, I've just read the article about the GT50 which is soon to be launched. I'm tempted to hold back.
The GT30 on paper is a better TV than the LW650T but it consumes almost 3 times the power.!
I'm going for a walk down the Tottenham Court Road now to see what the techy chaps think. I'll have cash ready to snap up an offer I can't refuse!
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Old 12-02-2012, 18:48
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Thanks guys, I've just read the article about the GT50 which is soon to be launched. I'm tempted to hold back.
The GT30 on paper is a better TV than the LW650T but it consumes almost 3 times the power.!
I'm going for a walk down the Tottenham Court Road now to see what the techy chaps think. I'll have cash ready to snap up an offer I can't refuse!
The power consumption on TV's is a over rated thing anyway. The Plasma doesn't continuously burn that quote- it varies. For example a black screen or dark scenes consume very little power. A white screen consumes the quote.

I just turn off energy features and enjoy the picture!

Also, the cost is insignificant. People burn kilowatts of energy on toast and tea !
The average monthly cost of running a 200W TV is £1.08


LED looks good but its basically a LCD pannel with edge lit leds causing clouding and all sorts most of the time.
Plasma is the pros choice.
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Old 12-02-2012, 21:22
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The power consumption on TV's is a over rated thing anyway. The Plasma doesn't continuously burn that quote- it varies. For example a black screen or dark scenes consume very little power. A white screen consumes the quote.

I just turn off energy features and enjoy the picture!

Also, the cost is insignificant. People burn kilowatts of energy on toast and tea !
The average monthly cost of running a 200W TV is £1.08


LED looks good but its basically a LCD pannel with edge lit leds causing clouding and all sorts most of the time.
Plasma is the pros choice.
Nope...............Sorry...
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Old 12-02-2012, 22:30
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Nope...............Sorry...
yep..... sorry.

Clouding is inevitable on edge lit no matter what. Only full LED doesn't have clouding or inconsistency. However even Full LED can produce halo effects.
On charged black / dark screen (some turn leds off on black) you will get inconsistency even on the highest LED's in darkness. This is just not acceptable if you really are into getting the best picture you can as this will have an effect on the picture overall.

Not to mention viewing angle wash - which again is inevitable on LCD. OH, and motion resolution loss. Thats why Plasma is the closest display (bar CRT and OLED) to reference and used in TV and Film production as well as enthusiasts choice..

http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&cp=8&...w=1138&bih=555
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Old 12-02-2012, 23:34
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yep..... sorry.

Clouding is inevitable on edge lit no matter what. Only full LED doesn't have clouding or inconsistency. However even Full LED can produce halo effects.
On charged black / dark screen (some turn leds off on black) you will get inconsistency even on the highest LED's in darkness. This is just not acceptable if you really are into getting the best picture you can as this will have an effect on the picture overall.

Not to mention viewing angle wash - which again is inevitable on LCD. OH, and motion resolution loss. Thats why Plasma is the closest display (bar CRT and OLED) to reference and used in TV and Film production as well as enthusiasts choice..

http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&cp=8&...w=1138&bih=555
Refering to experience, not a lazy google.....If your TV does not perform as you require, take it back....end of.
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Old 13-02-2012, 07:02
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Thanks guys, I've just read the article about the GT50 which is soon to be launched. I'm tempted to hold back.
The GT30 on paper is a better TV than the LW650T but it consumes almost 3 times the power.!
I'm going for a walk down the Tottenham Court Road now to see what the techy chaps think. I'll have cash ready to snap up an offer I can't refuse!

3 times the power? I've just looked at the links - the plasma is 130 W and the LCD is 96.77 W
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Old 13-02-2012, 09:12
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3 times the power? I've just looked at the links - the plasma is 130 W and the LCD is 96.77 W
LED backlit LCDs and PLASMA have energy use that is proportional to the brightness and by law an appliance must state its maximum power consumption.

LCD is almost constant as the CCFL backlight is always ON so its normal consumption is its highest.

Watch "Dark Night" and the Plasma will be lower than an LCD, put and EXCEL spreadsheet on it and it will be higher.

As someone else said earlier, if your room is very bright, then LED may be the way but if you can control the light, your eyes will thank you for the PLASMA.
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Old 13-02-2012, 12:42
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Each to their own I say. However if you're not too fussed about 3D this is great deal.

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/panason...88043-pdt.html

Tempted myself. Need to get the tape measure out to see if it'll fit !
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Old 13-02-2012, 12:49
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LED backlit LCDs and PLASMA have energy use that is proportional to the brightness and by law an appliance must state its maximum power consumption.

LCD is almost constant as the CCFL backlight is always ON so its normal consumption is its highest.
Completely untrue, CCFL LCD's (and edge-lit LCD) also dim the backlights, apart from the VERY early ones.
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Old 13-02-2012, 12:57
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I'm guessing you've not chosen the best LED TV to compare against. Try something like...
http://www.sony.co.uk/product/tv-117-46-lcd/kdl-46hx823

I think you'd be mad to buy without seeing them yourself. Who cares what some people you don't know on a forum think?!

Hope you've got/budgeted for a sound system. The sound from thin TVs is terrible.

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Old 13-02-2012, 15:15
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I'm guessing you've not chosen the best LED TV to compare against. Try something like...
http://www.sony.co.uk/product/tv-117-46-lcd/kdl-46hx823

I think you'd be mad to buy without seeing them yourself. Who cares what some people you don't know on a forum think?!

Hope you've got/budgeted for a sound system. The sound from thin TVs is terrible.

Cheers,
David.
true. however that Sony is way over a grand. The GT30 is a £700-800+ Plasma. As the OP has, you would have to compared like for like in that price range and in that case the LEDs are the poor relation.

The VT30 will be a good comparison for that Sony - however the VT30 was best TV of 2011 and the Sony's suffer 3D crosstalk.
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Old 13-02-2012, 16:49
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true. however that Sony is way over a grand. The GT30 is a £700-800+ Plasma. As the OP has, you would have to compared like for like in that price range and in that case the LEDs are the poor relation.

The VT30 will be a good comparison for that Sony - however the VT30 was best TV of 2011 and the Sony's suffer 3D crosstalk.
True. However, compare street prices, not RRP.

FWIW Panasonic loses on 2-2 pulldown capability, and may still have issues with artefacts on 50Hz content.

My point was that LG isn't really a brand to put up against a decent spec Panasonic, while Sony might be.

For myself, it's the motion artefacts that annoy me on all modern displays. Just have to find the display with the least annoying / most natural looking picture. YMMV.

Cheers,
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Old 13-02-2012, 17:03
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Hey,

Spec and tech jargon aside for a minute I bought the Panasonic p42st30 last year from currys for £500 with two pairs of 3d glasses and im still blown away by the picture quality, especially the 1080p bluray quality.

I have an average living room, nothing special and certainly not set up as a cinema room and even the wife comments regularly on how good a picture the tele has.

Our last tv was a 720p Sony LCD and the panny blows it away.

Just my 2p worth
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