New Black Box being discussed on BT forums

ThriceShy · 12-02-2012, 21:56

http://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Vision...ox/td-p/404437

Not sure of the significance of this but it seems this box does exist

http://btsupport.custhelp.com/ci/fat...9GdG0tUnhRaw==

That is dated November 2011.

Does anyone know anything about this?

samiul765 · 12-02-2012, 22:12

I think its safe to say that there is no doubt BT will release a new box this year

ThriceShy · 12-02-2012, 22:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by samiul765

I think its safe to say that there is no doubt BT will release a new box this year

Yes, that much is obvious. I just wondered if anyone had seen this one or had any details. There is speculation that the Cardinal bit in the model name referred to youview.

DeanDS · 13-02-2012, 09:25

Interesting, if I type 7831 into the Pace website search box, it throws up this:-

http://www.pace.com/universal/search...all&p=1&d=3832

The page however has no mention of 7831, even in the source code.

wwwebber · 13-02-2012, 14:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeanDS

Interesting, if I type 7831 into the Pace website search box, it throws up this:-

http://www.pace.com/universal/search...all&p=1&d=3832

The page however has no mention of 7831, even in the source code.

That is one mighty fine stb. It certainly looks the part and the functionality ticks all the boxes too. We can hope.

ThriceShy · 13-02-2012, 19:16

Well, it is make or break time for me.

I still have over a year on my contract with them and I think I am being fair with what I expect from them by the time my contract is up.

If they do not have a HD box that supports freeview HD or do not have any IPTV channels then I will be taking my business elsewhere.

samiul765 · 13-02-2012, 20:23

i think i might be with you ThriceShy

stewM · 13-02-2012, 21:05

...and me...

*MikeB* · 14-02-2012, 18:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeanDS

Interesting, if I type 7831 into the Pace website search box, it throws up this:-

http://www.pace.com/universal/search...all&p=1&d=3832

The page however has no mention of 7831, even in the source code.

That brings up no results found now.

samiul765 · 14-02-2012, 20:40

*MikeB*. It does show a result.
It points to this

http://www.pace.com/global/our-portf...ip5000-series/

MostynDS · 14-02-2012, 21:23

Umm. I know you're all dying for a new STB and I really hope you get one soon. But as a cynic, all I see here is a new SKU for the existing black box preloaded with the new linux firmware rather than the old Mediaroom one.

Hopefully I'm wrong (I usually am) but hey, that's all I can see...

stewM · 17-02-2012, 15:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Well, it is make or break time for me.

I still have over a year on my contract with them and I think I am being fair with what I expect from them by the time my contract is up.

If they do not have a HD box that supports freeview HD or do not have any IPTV channels then I will be taking my business elsewhere.

Looks like waiting for contract to end then off to pastures new.....http://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Vision.../409295/page/3

DeanDS · 17-02-2012, 16:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by stewM

Looks like waiting for contract to end then off to pastures new.....http://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Vision.../409295/page/3

Wow, assuming the Mod hasn't been given a bum steer, that's quite shocking -

"I double-checked with our BT Vision experts, and as others have mentioned already we don't have any plans to release a Vision HD box at present and we don’t have a date for when that might happen."

They really don't have any plans to release a HD box??

DeanDS · 17-02-2012, 17:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeanDS

Wow, assuming the Mod hasn't been given a bum steer, that's quite shocking -

"I double-checked with our BT Vision experts, and as others have mentioned already we don't have any plans to release a Vision HD box at present and we don’t have a date for when that might happen."

They really don't have any plans to release a HD box??

It's now been edited/updated:-

"This was poorly worded, sorry. I meant, we don't have a release date for this yet. Didn't mean to imply this was something that is never going to happen, sorry for any confusion caused!"

samiul765 · 17-02-2012, 18:40

My contract is up for renewal next month.Not sure if I should leave or not

.If only BT released more Information on what they plan to do.

MostynDS · 17-02-2012, 19:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by samiul765

My contract is up for renewal next month.Not sure if I should leave or not

.If only BT released more Information on what they plan to do.

I'd say that now was not a good time to renew a contract with BT. If you're happy with what you're getting, just keep paying and enjoy being contract-free until the position becomes clear. At least then, you can leave if you want or stay if you want.

stewM · 17-02-2012, 20:40

When is someone with an opinion a troll?

Seems on the BT forums you are.........http://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Vision.../409295/page/6

"why are people trolls simply because they criticise BT? I've seen criticism of this forum over at Digital spy, and it's easy to see why. People on here seem to take the status the forum assigns to them quite literally...having the audacity to criticise seems to be some sort of cardinal sin...."

samiul765 · 17-02-2012, 23:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by MostynDS

I'd say that now was not a good time to renew a contract with BT. If you're happy with what you're getting, just keep paying and enjoy being contract-free until the position becomes clear. At least then, you can leave if you want or stay if you want.

Thanks for the advise MostynDS.Lets see what happens next month.

swedish cook · 18-02-2012, 10:48

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SimonBlackham · 18-02-2012, 22:08

Does anyone know what software BT will be using when they dump Mediaroom? - note that the new pace box supports SoftAtHome and MiView (as well as Mediaroom).

The deletion of RF has had a severe impact on our use of the BT Vbox and we only use it these days as a recorder and for 'Replay' both of which are available on other devices. We have had Freeview HD for a couple of years now (out of region) so they had better come up with HD tuners soon or I will see no reason to continue my subscription...

nemulate · 19-02-2012, 00:28

I expect the software they use is a 'closely guarded secret' only for those in the know and 'beta testers'. They really haven't done themselves any favours by keeping it quiet regarding their future plans and more importantly when HD TV is likely to become available. Anyway as I've said on the community forums I'm off in a month or so to be replaced by a HD TV tuner for my HTPC and a Netflix subscription. I used to think it was a good, value for money service (and probably still is compared to $ky) but has fallen behind technically and value wise!

samiul765 · 21-02-2012, 19:24

The new box will run Linux OS because its required for Youview.It is currently in the Beta testing stage.The new box is expected to release in June/July

MostynDS · 21-02-2012, 19:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by samiul765

The new box will run Linux OS because its required for Youview.It is currently in the Beta testing stage.The new box is expected to release in June/July

WOW! This is big news. In beta testing. How do you know this? Obviously we cannot expect you to break any NDAs but do you have one? Or do you know someone else that does? There are a few regulars on here who are on BT's beta testing list and tested the black box, but they haven't mentioned it. What can you tell us?

tally100 · 21-03-2012, 14:34

Ive been told the new software is now being rolled out to new users I assume we will all get it in a rolled out manner soon

12-02-2012, 21:56	#1
ThriceShy Inactive Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,471	New Black Box being discussed on BT forums http://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Vision...ox/td-p/404437 Not sure of the significance of this but it seems this box does exist http://btsupport.custhelp.com/ci/fat...9GdG0tUnhRaw== That is dated November 2011. Does anyone know anything about this?

12-02-2012, 22:12	#2
samiul765 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 27	I think its safe to say that there is no doubt BT will release a new box this year

12-02-2012, 22:25	#3
ThriceShy Inactive Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,471	Quote: Originally Posted by samiul765 I think its safe to say that there is no doubt BT will release a new box this year Yes, that much is obvious. I just wondered if anyone had seen this one or had any details. There is speculation that the Cardinal bit in the model name referred to youview.

13-02-2012, 09:25	#4
DeanDS Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Oxford Posts: 1,564	Interesting, if I type 7831 into the Pace website search box, it throws up this:- http://www.pace.com/universal/search...all&p=1&d=3832 The page however has no mention of 7831, even in the source code.

13-02-2012, 14:54	#5
wwwebber Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Nottingham Posts: 3,536	Quote: Originally Posted by DeanDS Interesting, if I type 7831 into the Pace website search box, it throws up this:- http://www.pace.com/universal/search...all&p=1&d=3832 The page however has no mention of 7831, even in the source code. That is one mighty fine stb. It certainly looks the part and the functionality ticks all the boxes too. We can hope.

13-02-2012, 19:16	#6
ThriceShy Inactive Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,471	Well, it is make or break time for me. I still have over a year on my contract with them and I think I am being fair with what I expect from them by the time my contract is up. If they do not have a HD box that supports freeview HD or do not have any IPTV channels then I will be taking my business elsewhere.

13-02-2012, 20:23	#7
samiul765 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 27	i think i might be with you ThriceShy

13-02-2012, 21:05	#8
stewM Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Saddleworth Posts: 288	...and me...

14-02-2012, 18:17	#9
MikeB Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 4,807	Quote: Originally Posted by DeanDS Interesting, if I type 7831 into the Pace website search box, it throws up this:- http://www.pace.com/universal/search...all&p=1&d=3832 The page however has no mention of 7831, even in the source code. That brings up no results found now.

14-02-2012, 20:40	#10
samiul765 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 27	MikeB. It does show a result. It points to this http://www.pace.com/global/our-portf...ip5000-series/

14-02-2012, 21:23	#11
MostynDS Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 773	Umm. I know you're all dying for a new STB and I really hope you get one soon. But as a cynic, all I see here is a new SKU for the existing black box preloaded with the new linux firmware rather than the old Mediaroom one. Hopefully I'm wrong (I usually am) but hey, that's all I can see...

17-02-2012, 15:47	#12
stewM Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Saddleworth Posts: 288	Quote: Originally Posted by ThriceShy Well, it is make or break time for me. I still have over a year on my contract with them and I think I am being fair with what I expect from them by the time my contract is up. If they do not have a HD box that supports freeview HD or do not have any IPTV channels then I will be taking my business elsewhere. Looks like waiting for contract to end then off to pastures new.....http://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Vision.../409295/page/3

17-02-2012, 16:09	#13
DeanDS Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Oxford Posts: 1,564	Quote: Originally Posted by stewM Looks like waiting for contract to end then off to pastures new.....http://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Vision.../409295/page/3 Wow, assuming the Mod hasn't been given a bum steer, that's quite shocking - "I double-checked with our BT Vision experts, and as others have mentioned already we don't have any plans to release a Vision HD box at present and we don’t have a date for when that might happen." They really don't have any plans to release a HD box??

17-02-2012, 17:26	#14
DeanDS Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Oxford Posts: 1,564	Quote: Originally Posted by DeanDS Wow, assuming the Mod hasn't been given a bum steer, that's quite shocking - "I double-checked with our BT Vision experts, and as others have mentioned already we don't have any plans to release a Vision HD box at present and we don’t have a date for when that might happen." They really don't have any plans to release a HD box?? It's now been edited/updated:- "This was poorly worded, sorry. I meant, we don't have a release date for this yet. Didn't mean to imply this was something that is never going to happen, sorry for any confusion caused!"

17-02-2012, 18:40	#15
samiul765 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 27	My contract is up for renewal next month.Not sure if I should leave or not .If only BT released more Information on what they plan to do.

17-02-2012, 19:39	#16
MostynDS Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 773	Quote: Originally Posted by samiul765 My contract is up for renewal next month.Not sure if I should leave or not .If only BT released more Information on what they plan to do. I'd say that now was not a good time to renew a contract with BT. If you're happy with what you're getting, just keep paying and enjoy being contract-free until the position becomes clear. At least then, you can leave if you want or stay if you want.

17-02-2012, 20:40	#17
stewM Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Saddleworth Posts: 288	When is someone with an opinion a troll? Seems on the BT forums you are.........http://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Vision.../409295/page/6 "why are people trolls simply because they criticise BT? I've seen criticism of this forum over at Digital spy, and it's easy to see why. People on here seem to take the status the forum assigns to them quite literally...having the audacity to criticise seems to be some sort of cardinal sin...."

17-02-2012, 23:26	#18
samiul765 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 27	Quote: Originally Posted by MostynDS I'd say that now was not a good time to renew a contract with BT. If you're happy with what you're getting, just keep paying and enjoy being contract-free until the position becomes clear. At least then, you can leave if you want or stay if you want. Thanks for the advise MostynDS.Lets see what happens next month.

18-02-2012, 10:48	#19
swedish cook Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 821	[deleted - managed to reply to old post]

18-02-2012, 22:08	#20
SimonBlackham Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: NewForest (Free-View/Sat+19E) Posts: 7,719	Does anyone know what software BT will be using when they dump Mediaroom? - note that the new pace box supports SoftAtHome and MiView (as well as Mediaroom). The deletion of RF has had a severe impact on our use of the BT Vbox and we only use it these days as a recorder and for 'Replay' both of which are available on other devices. We have had Freeview HD for a couple of years now (out of region) so they had better come up with HD tuners soon or I will see no reason to continue my subscription...

19-02-2012, 00:28	#21
nemulate Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 278	I expect the software they use is a 'closely guarded secret' only for those in the know and 'beta testers'. They really haven't done themselves any favours by keeping it quiet regarding their future plans and more importantly when HD TV is likely to become available. Anyway as I've said on the community forums I'm off in a month or so to be replaced by a HD TV tuner for my HTPC and a Netflix subscription. I used to think it was a good, value for money service (and probably still is compared to $ky) but has fallen behind technically and value wise!

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New Black Box being discussed on BT forums

21-02-2012, 19:24	#22
samiul765 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 27	The new box will run Linux OS because its required for Youview.It is currently in the Beta testing stage.The new box is expected to release in June/July

21-02-2012, 19:34	#23
MostynDS Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 773	Quote: Originally Posted by samiul765 The new box will run Linux OS because its required for Youview.It is currently in the Beta testing stage.The new box is expected to release in June/July WOW! This is big news. In beta testing. How do you know this? Obviously we cannot expect you to break any NDAs but do you have one? Or do you know someone else that does? There are a few regulars on here who are on BT's beta testing list and tested the black box, but they haven't mentioned it. What can you tell us?

21-03-2012, 14:34	#24
tally100 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 117	Ive been told the new software is now being rolled out to new users I assume we will all get it in a rolled out manner soon