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Homeland on Ch4 (UK Pace) - No Spoilers!
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theonlyweeman
26-02-2012
Is it just me, or is that actually quite funny, more so than any of the comedy dramas shown on TV?
allie4
26-02-2012
Originally Posted by theonlyweeman:
“Is it just me, or is that actually quite funny, more so than any of the comedy dramas shown on TV?”

What - Upstairs, downstairs?? To me it's a crashing bore tbh!
mazzy50
26-02-2012
I think this is one of those series where, if you had the boxed set, you'd end up watching until 3am even if you had to get up for work the next morning!
guernseysnail
26-02-2012
Originally Posted by allie4:
“Me too! Last week we watched UD and recorded this but couldn't bear to wait another day to catch 2nd ep of this!”

UD was a load of tripe imo...
highnal
26-02-2012
Originally Posted by mazzy50:
“I think this is one of those series where, if you had the boxed set, you'd end up watching until 3am even if you had to get up for work the next morning!”

That's so true!
theonlyweeman
26-02-2012
Originally Posted by allie4:
“What - Upstairs, downstairs?? To me it's a crashing bore tbh!”

I was reffering to Homeland, I've not seen Upstairs, Downstairs.
craggers
26-02-2012
Originally Posted by highnal:
“Season 1 has 12 episodes. Think the finale is 1.5 hours.”

Yeah last episode is 90 minutes. Whole series is awesome!
mazzy50
26-02-2012
Originally Posted by theonlyweeman:
“I was reffering to Homeland, I've not seen Upstairs, Downstairs.”

What did you find amusing?
theonlyweeman
26-02-2012
Originally Posted by mazzy50:
“What did you find amusing?”

I think I may have gone hyper, but some of the lines, most noticeably Virgil asking for popcorn, got me... Also, somebody on twitter was asking how the place got called 'The George W Bush Center For Intellegance'?
Inspiration
26-02-2012
I still think it's a shame the main character isn't Jack Bauer.
mazzy50
26-02-2012
Originally Posted by theonlyweeman:
“I think I may have gone hyper, but some of the lines, most noticeably Virgil asking for popcorn, got me... Also, somebody on twitter was asking how the place got called ;The George W Bush Center For Intellegance;?”

OK. Understand now. I thought you meant the whole thing was funny which seemed odd given some of the content.
G926
26-02-2012
I am loving Mandy Patinkin in this. Chicago Hope is one of my all time favourites and he was awesome in that.
CJClarke
26-02-2012
Originally Posted by theonlyweeman:
“and Homeland just lost what chance it had of getting a 15 BBFC certificate...”

It's got a provisional 15 rating on the DVD/Blu Ray boxsets so i think the distributors are expecting it to get a 15 rating. To be honest, so am i, i'd be very surprised if it was rated 18, when i watched it at US pace i never thought there was anything 18 worthy, i've seen far worse than the worst stuff in Homeland in other 15 rated material recently.
allie4
26-02-2012
Originally Posted by guernseysnail:
“UD was a load of tripe imo...”

if you see my other post - so do I!!! So disappointed as the original is one of my all time faves!
allie4
26-02-2012
Originally Posted by G926:
“I am loving Mandy Patinkin in this. Chicago Hope is one of my all time favourites and he was awesome in that.”

One of the hottest actors from US back in the day.... is he playing her boss with the beard?
If so, didn't recognise him!
theonlyweeman
26-02-2012
Originally Posted by CJClarke:
“It's got a provisional 15 rating on the DVD/Blu Ray boxsets so i think the distributors are expecting it to get a 15 rating. To be honest, so am i, i'd be very surprised if it was rated 18, when i watched it at US pace i never thought there was anything 18 worthy, i've seen far worse than the worst stuff in Homeland in other 15 rated material recently.”

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The 'rape/semi-consential sex' scene was very strong for a 15.[/LIST][LIST]
You can't use the 'cu**' word unless it's contextually justified (I don't think "Didn't the Marine's call that game 'Hunt The Cu**'?" is contextual justification, but it's the closest I've ever seen anyone get)[/LIST]
MrSuper
26-02-2012
Another gripping but excellent episode. It just keeps peeling away the layers with Carrie and Nick. Absolutely loving it! Claire Danes is amazing in this but in tonight's episode i thought even though Damian Lewis gives an understated performance he is also amazing, if not better. Love Virgil!

I didn't expect that ending though! Nick making a makeshift space in his garage to pray? Wow!
CJClarke
26-02-2012
Originally Posted by theonlyweeman:
“[LIST]
The 'rape/semi-consential sex' scene was very strong for a 15.[/LIST][LIST]
You can't use the 'cu**' word unless it's contextually justified (I don't think "Didn't the Marine's call that game 'Hunt The Cu**'?" is contextual justification, but it's the closest I've ever seen anyone get)[/LIST]”

It wasn't out and out rape from what i saw, it was consensual, albeit uncomfortable looking, and there was no explicit detail. I don't know which scene you're talking about exactly (and i wont speculate to avoid spoiling anything that might not have aired yet on C4), but i can't remember any "rape" scenes in the show.

The BBFC have been getting easier on the C word lately too, if it's said in an agressive or overtly sexual manner (e.g. "i'm going to f*** you in the c***!") then it would be an instant 18, but i doubt the soldiers saying "Hunt the C***" would get the show an 18 rating.
the_lostprophet
26-02-2012
Not sure about that again. I don't like the gratuitous sex, nudity and swearing - it doesn't add anything. It seems as if the writers are teenage boys in that respect - perhaps they're aiming this show at men but it all just feels a bit juvenile. You know the way you swear loads as a teen just 'cause it feels rebellious or whatever? Well then you grow out of it but it's like....this show hasn't. Anyway - I can't believe I'm saying the same things as Guardian readers about that issue - I never agree with them! http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-rad...rt-of-comments

Yeah not convinced so far. Will watch again next week but I still feel it's overhyped and has limited artistic merit.
Matt D
26-02-2012
Originally Posted by theonlyweeman:
“I think I may have gone hyper, but some of the lines, most noticeably Virgil asking for popcorn, got me... Also, somebody on twitter was asking how the place got called 'The George W Bush Center For Intellegance'?”

It's the "George Bush Center for Intelligence", not the "George W Bush Center for Intelligence". It's named after Bush Senior, not Dubya.
Weigh-Man
26-02-2012
It picks up pace from episodes 4,5 onwards it's definitely worth sticking with it.
catsitter
26-02-2012
Originally Posted by Inspiration:
“I still think it's a shame the main character isn't Jack Bauer. ”

Admittedly I haven't seen the last few seasons of 24 yet, but surely if it was Jack Bauer we would know for sure that he hadn't been "turned"?
MoreTears
27-02-2012
Originally Posted by catsitter:
“Admittedly I haven't seen the last few seasons of 24 yet, but surely if it was Jack Bauer we would know for sure that he hadn't been "turned"?”

I am sure that person meant Jack Bauer in place of Carrie, the government agent, not the suspected terrorist.
off the page
27-02-2012
I'm really liking this so far, but i with that Channel 4 wouldn't give away so much in their previews of the next episode.

The bit where Damien Lewis comes out in uniform, "playing the hero", was practically at the end of this episode, yet I'd seen it already in the trailer.

I don't normally watch drama series on TV as they're being aired, so i guess this is normal practice, but I wish it wasn't.
Joooe
27-02-2012
Just caught up with the first two episodes and really enjoyed them both. Good start to this show.
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