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Homeland on Ch4 (UK Pace) - No Spoilers!
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RM83
21-10-2012
Originally Posted by Casmana:
“Am I the only one that thinks Brody's being set up?There was no need to send him for The Tailor .
Brody's wife is so boring and now she's let it out about Carrie and him !”

Interesting theory. Although he has already shown himself to be extremely useful to them. More likely he's going to end up being blackmailed by the scary journalist lady to do her bidding.
LolaSvelt
21-10-2012
Great episode. I loved the long, quiet moments such as Carrie's suicide attempt and Brody searching for the Gettysburg bomb-maker with no music whatsoever. Or even Jessica's speech. I feel like unnecessary music can sometimes ruin scenes, but cable TV shows really get that less is more. How anybody could call this dull I don't know.
elgransenor1
21-10-2012
yeah sadly I think the only way forward is to try and turn brody as a double.

In reality he'd just be arrested on the spot, but this is la-la tv land.

to be honest it'll ruin the whole premise of the series for me, as you'll lose faith in brody, if he completely lacks any principles and just yo-yos between the two sides.
solare
21-10-2012
Originally Posted by LolaSvelt:
“Great episode. I loved the long, quiet moments such as Carrie's suicide attempt and Brody searching for the Gettysburg bomb-maker with no music whatsoever. Or even Jessica's speech. I feel like unnecessary music can sometimes ruin scenes, but cable TV shows really get that less is more. How anybody could call this dull I don't know.”

I agree about the music (or rather the lack of). Scenes like Carrie's attempted suicide are so much more powerful without intrusive background music.
OffTheCuff
21-10-2012
Originally Posted by elgransenor1:
“yeah sadly I think the only way forward is to try and turn brody as a double.

In reality he'd just be arrested on the spot, but this is la-la tv land.

to be honest it'll ruin the whole premise of the series for me, as you'll lose faith in brody, if he completely lacks any principles and just yo-yos between the two sides.”

So far we have Carrie, Saul and memory card...If anything happens to the memory card and Saul...Carrie's word would not be enough at the moment.
koantemplation
21-10-2012
Originally Posted by OffTheCuff:
“So far we have Carrie, Saul and memory card...If anything happens to the memory card and Saul...Carrie's word would not be enough at the moment.”

Yes, what are the chances of Saul and the memory card lasting till it gets to someone in authority?

Carrie should copy the file onto her computer and then another memory card and keep it safe, but you can bet they'll just have the one copy.
ClarkF1
21-10-2012
Given the synopsis of next week's episode, I think we can say that

Spoiler
nothing happens to the card


unless they throw a curveball
elgransenor1
21-10-2012
why don't they just skype it in to headquarters, or just send an encrypted file by email, then it would be saved forever.

no that would be far too simple
feeVerte
21-10-2012
Clark... how do you mean? that
Spoiler
Carrie and Saul work independently? Saul shows it to Estes though
Noiseboy
21-10-2012
On the face of it, sending Brody to get the tailor was insane plotting. It's testimony to how good it is generally and how much slack I cut it that it was still a terrific epsiode despite it.... but I hope they don't make many more moves that daft.

The dress... the pills... the video... outstanding. And very glad Saul isn't the mole.

So from here, the double agent theory is one way to go, the other is that Brody just legs it. Not sure which would be dramatically best. In a way, this episode sorta feels like it might be setting up Brody to bolt, especially his wife's speech (another great scene and performance).

Gee, episode 3 of 12....
feeVerte
21-10-2012
Originally Posted by elgransenor1:
“yeah sadly I think the only way forward is to try and turn brody as a double.

In reality he'd just be arrested on the spot, but this is la-la tv land.

to be honest it'll ruin the whole premise of the series for me, as you'll lose faith in brody, if he completely lacks any principles and just yo-yos between the two sides.”

hope not a double...
Agreed, Brody is making me sick at the moment and even Lewis cannot make him any believable immo
Why did he have to kill the taylor

I keep hoping that Saul is working on something "bigger" ie taking down the VP who is a nasty piece of work and that Carrie - CIA reject - will work with him somehow getting Brody to be instrumental in that
Author 007
21-10-2012
Originally Posted by feeVerte:
“hope not a double...
Agreed, Brody is making me sick at the moment and even Lewis cannot make him any believable immo
Why did he have to kill the taylor ”

Am I the only one who missed what happened to him? I know Brody snapped his neck in the end but how did he get wounded in the first place???
feeVerte
21-10-2012
Originally Posted by Author 007:
“Am I the only one who missed what happened to him? I know Brody snapped his neck in the end but how did he get wounded in the first place??? ”

the taylor run off with a trick and hid than hit Brody first, Brody picked up wife phone call, she could hear taylor so he finished him off
elgransenor1
21-10-2012
he fell on a metal spoke sticking out of the ground, when trying to run away from brody.
feeVerte
21-10-2012
Originally Posted by elgransenor1:
“he fell on a metal spoke sticking out of the ground, when trying to run away from brody.”

pardon yes.. but did he not hit Brody? what was the bang I heard than?
Author 007
21-10-2012
Originally Posted by feeVerte:
“pardon yes.. but did he not hit Brody? what was the bang I heard than? ”

Sorry yeah I was talking about the tailor. The tailor hit Brody then ran off... What I missed was how he got injured in the end so thanks for clearing that up elgransenor1.
spaniel-lover
21-10-2012
I reckon that Carrie would need to have her stomach pumped out at the hospital - sticking her fingers down her throat is not enough.
blue34
21-10-2012
I'm a bit confused as why the taylor wanted to hit Brody on the head with a brick??
Is it because he didn't trust him?
koantemplation
21-10-2012
Originally Posted by blue34:
“I'm a bit confused as why the taylor wanted to hit Brody on the head with a brick??
Is it because he didn't trust him?”

Yes that's the only thing I could thing off, he probably thought they were going to kill him.
firstslip
21-10-2012
The episode had me hooked all the way through and had some impressive moments, although as has been said, sending him to pick up the tailor was ludicrous. Only time my suspension of disbelief has failed in what is, let's face it, a completely ludicrous premise anyway.

The attention to detail in the production impressed me this week. Either that or Damian is really tapping into his skills as a method actor ... Did anyone else notice his - err - 'palpable excitement' after the scene with his wife on the kitchen counter?

I thought maybe I was imagining things but then my husband noticed as well.
elgransenor1
21-10-2012
yeah i noticed that too

then again i'd also have a stiffy if i was getting off with such a hot actress.
Party Animal
21-10-2012
Originally Posted by firstslip:
“ sending him to pick up the tailor was ludicrous. Only time my suspension of disbelief has failed in what is, let's face it, a completely ludicrous premise anyway.
”

i agree the whole scene from start to finish was an embarrassment to the writers really awful

I am finding it frustrating in that such a really good series has me hooked wanting more with great cliff hangars
can be so ridiculous with some of the scenes

having said all that Carrie has been a revelation and hope she gets some reward for her acting
firstslip
21-10-2012
Originally Posted by Party Animal:
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having said all that Carrie has been a revelation and hope she gets some reward for her acting”

Well, she's got one Emmy for it, but I'm sure another one would be welcome!

Thought she was as great as ever tonight. But, yes, they keep the blood pumping and the cliffhangers coming but it is at the expense of believability. I'm hooked, but then I feel like a moron for falling for it all. I mean, why didn't he just walk away from the guy moaning so that his wife couldn't hear?!

Cover mouthpiece/microphone to muffle sound or break man's neck to muffle sound??? Ooh, what a choice. Let's go for breaking the neck.
fog
22-10-2012
twas awesome tonight. was on the edge of my seat throughout.
those that think it was dull...baffles me. i suspect you're just not 'getting' it.
can't wait for next week...as ever.
spaceygal
22-10-2012
This show has me gripped every week. Wonderful, with brilliant actors. So compelling.
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