Surely the hotel security people and bar staff would recognise Congressman Brody and wonder why the CIA wanted tape of him...

And as has been pointed out, someone being bundled out of the place with a black bag over their head might not have gone unnoticed either!

But generally I love this show for subverting expectations, cutting teasers short, just being shocking. I gasped out loud at the scene in the forest, where Brody broke The Tailor's neck for being audible during his phonecall with Jess.

I don't suppose it is uncommon to up surveillance for a member of government's own protection. The black bag was a bit wierd; presumably they will be bundling Brody out a back staircase/fire exit and hope no one sees

Maybe that's why the female journalist was introduced into the show - the one working as a go-between for Nazir.
She could have smuggled the card out.

The bad guy could be Mike. I've a feeling he's going to bump Lauder off pretty soon.

The look on Mike's face told me... "Lauder knows too much he has to go..."

The black bag is so Brody doesn't know where he's being taken. I'm assuming their best option now since Carrie blew the op wide open, is to try and turn him back.

Carrie thought she had been 'made' by Brodie. Afterall she was making out she was 'fixed' after her treatment, but her reaction to his questioning of this treatment was emotional. She was worried this is what Brodie would think she is onto him. Rather than let Brodie disappear she forced the CIA's hands by confronting him. All along the CIA wanted to play on Brodie's 'achilies heal', their relationship. But this was only to gather intelligence amd make opportunities.

I think they are going to play on the friction between the VP and Dana. First she 'burns him' with his remark and then when the VP finds out about Brodie, do you think he will want his son hanging around with the daughter of a terrorist? I don't think so. They could play on Dana's resentment towards the the VP.

That could easily have been sold as being protection - high profile congressman, presented as the poster-boy for anti-terrorism, in the running to be Vice President.

Oh please no more Dana, she's a waste of space in this programme!
I'm not interested in some silly bloody teen romance either.

But it has got to be significant.

She is hardly a waste of space either, she single handedly stopped Brody detonating his suicide bomb!

Was there a significance in Brodie knowing Carrie had had ECT? She seemed surprised he knew, did the VP tell him or is that where the mole comes in?

The meeting between the leader and Nazir was significant so I don't think it makes sense the Nazir's organisation would have just handed it over to Hamas.

As you say we don't know how the organisations work in relation to each other so I'm still hoping for an explanation.


I think she is an excellent character and she reflects what the viewer should be wrestling with in terms of the themes of the show. She has a more neutral view of things whereas Jessica just flew off the handle at the suggestion of Brody being muslim.


It was not widely known since it was a personal matter but Brody made enquires, I think with David, and found out.

Yeah, a bit of continuity rather than total darkness is no bad thing.


I was quite surprised when I first read someone theorise that Mike could be a wrong'un. I hope not, but simply because so far his character is rather too bland to care one way or another.

I read Mike's expression as "Hmm, interesting. Lauder may be on to something. I wonder if the store will still be open by the time I drop him home; the fridge is empty", but then again my perception of him as bland might account for my interpretation.



1. If it was done because they didn't want him to know the destination, Brody would be black-bagged after they left the hotel (in the safety of a blacked-out car, for example) not before, which only draws attention to him/the group escorting him.
2. Why would they need to keep the destination from Brody anyway?

I think I prefer other people's reasoning, i.e. the CIA didn't want the prisoner to be identified. That seems more logical. But the reason I said it was 'wierd' was because it came across as done entirely for affect, which effectively broke the fourth wall.

At any rate, whichever theory you apply (or not in my case), it isn't really important. I was just having a little poke at the show.

Dana is showing signs of potentially becoming Nazir's newest recruit. Is that where the storyline is going?

How so? Just because she doesn't go all anti-Islam like everyone else?

Okay, maybe I worded that badly.
I find her character really annoying and I don't think she's a very good actress - when she speaks she doesn't seem to move he mouth and looks like she needs a good shake!
She's actually spoiling Homeland a bit for me

That youtube clip was not a spoiler. it was shown at the end of the episode yesterday...as they do at the end of every episode when they show what happens next. some people are just too tetchy about their own enjoyment that they dont want others to enjoy it discussing the show.

From the point of view of there being an alliance between Nazir and the Hamas leader, I don't see any lack of logic for the Hamas leader to have a copy of Brody's suicide tape. As you intimated yourself, the fact Nazir risked coming into the open to meet with this man, shows us how important he was to Nazir and his organisation, in which case the fact he had a copy of Brody's tape corresponds with that, don't you think?

As for hoping for an explanation, you may be waiting forever. I remember being very unhappy over the whole Aileen scenario that never seem to be resolved to viewer satisfaction last season.

I agree with you about Dana though. I like her character and the actress playing her is doing an excellent job

Please note, this is a NO SPOILER thread. What part of this do people not understand? No spoilers includes spoiler tags. If spoiler tags was allowed the thread title would say so.

No spoilers means NO SPOILERS. At all.

A relationship between the Hamas leader and Nazir's organisation could explain why the latter gave the former a copy, though the purpose is unclear, but I don't think it's a close one since this meeting was required; it appeared to be a very significant one and so in that scenario why would Nazir's organisation give out such a significant piece of evidence?

I for one switch off before next week's trailer's shown . I just don't want to know ...until it happens ... nothing to do with being tetchy.... it's a preference.

so you are in a minority then. This thread discusses the episodes in UK pace. In the Uk they also show the quick summary of next weeks episode. It is up for discussion as it has been aired in the UK.

If it bothers you so much as to complain on this thread then you must not view this thread.

Dont make up the DS rules to suit you.

From the DS faq page about spoilers

You may encase your post in tags where appropriate.

There you go.

So you're not content with discussing the current episode just seen .. you want to discuss the trailer for next week too ?

Yes and i dont think it is wrong to discuss the 30 sec trailer. It adds to the enjoyment and increases the thrill.

''Where appropriate'' being the operative phrase here.

No spoilers! means just that. No spoilers allowed even if they are in tags. It's inappropriate.

If the thread title said .....spoilers in tags then tagging would be appropriate.

Mr Super is the OP. He is quite in order to clarify the exact meaning of the thread title.