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Homeland on Ch4 (UK Pace) - No Spoilers!
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barnsleykeith
29-10-2012
Originally Posted by Casmana:
“So you're not content with discussing the current episode just seen .. you want to discuss the trailer for next week too ?”

Originally Posted by Nansbread:
“Yes and i dont think it is wrong to discuss the 30 sec trailer. It adds to the enjoyment and increases the thrill.”

Strictly speaking discussing the teaser at the end isn't a spoiler. For me that is. I don't watch them personally. Switch over as soon as possible to avoid them. But the scenes have aired in the UK.
Casmana
29-10-2012
Originally Posted by barnsleykeith:
“Strictly speaking discussing the teaser at the end isn't a spoiler. For me that is. I don't watch then personally. Switch over as soon as possible to avoid them. But the scenes have aired in the UK.”

I think we're crossing different posts here . My initial objection was to a post last night talking about a youtube link which the member mentioned and made a comment about.
Now things have been explained I don't have a problem avoiding posts talking about the trailers .. from now on .
barnsleykeith
29-10-2012
Originally Posted by Casmana:
“I think we're crossing different posts here . My initial objection was to a post last night talking about a youtube link which the member mentioned and made a comment about.
Now things have been explained I don't have a problem avoiding posts talking about the trailers .. from now on .”

Not be the first time I've got my wires crossed.
MrSuper
29-10-2012
Sooner or later someone is going to come in here and ruin it for everyone else. It happens time and time again. Since we're 1 episode behind the US you can tell people will be itching to come in this thread and reveal all. I'm trying to prevent that from happening, that's all.
Casmana
29-10-2012
I support your views completely!
sjoscinev
29-10-2012
Originally Posted by Casmana:
“I for one switch off before next week's trailer's shown . I just don't want to know ...until it happens ... nothing to do with being tetchy.... it's a preference.”

I'm the same, I regard the "next week" bits at the end as spoilers and avoid at all costs - I'm even tetchy when I accidentally catch the brief spoilers before shows start (I don't know if they do this with Homeland as so far I've always managed to start the playbacks at the opening credits). Am I OCD about this?
blue34
29-10-2012
I didn't even realise there was a trailer at the end of the show!
feeVerte
29-10-2012
OCD? not much..
barnsleykeith
29-10-2012
Originally Posted by sjoscinev:
“I'm the same, I regard the "next week" bits at the end as spoilers and avoid at all costs - I'm even tetchy when I accidentally catch the brief spoilers before shows start (I don't know if they do this with Homeland as so far I've always managed to start the playbacks at the opening credits). Am I OCD about this?”

Some FMs are reporting their recordings are cutting off before the end. They definitely aren't being bothered by the ..coming next teasers.

Do you stick your fingers in your ears, close your eyes, and sing when the teasers come on.
Smokeychan1
29-10-2012
Originally Posted by feeVerte:
“OCD? not much.. ”

I'd say not at all
Mercier
29-10-2012
What I find deeply irritating about Homeland is that Carrie is supposedly this utterly brilliant operative who's track record, instinct and intelligence is beyond reproach and again she's proven right regarding Brodie etc but the instant she does something off kilter or follows her instinct she's immediately treated like an idiot or unhinged hysteric.

The whole premis of Homeland, as enjoyable as it is as a piece of fantasy, is specious that a soldier is kept for 8 years with no ulterior motive as a hostage by jihadists, when it was even stated in episode one that if they're not found within 3 days they're dead. Only Carrie was the one to suspect Brodie and follow it through and Brodie's entrance into the upper echelons of politics was immediate.

The whole thing is hokey, albeit played by a brilliant cast who almost, almost make you forget the glaring plot holes.
feeVerte
29-10-2012
Mercier could not agree more, that...and the lonely inevitable glass of wine/empty flat at the end
spaniel-lover
29-10-2012
There's something wrong about a boy who looks like he does not even shave yet, driving around in a brand new BMW - he should be on a bicycle!
spaniel-lover
29-10-2012
I assume this new school of Dana's is private - I don't see why she couldn't continue at her old school, they're still in the same house after all; I should think that many of our MPs send their kids to state schools.....
Squiggle
29-10-2012
Originally Posted by Mark.:
“And you can just imagine it going almost completely un-noticed when he's marched through the hotel lobby.

"Oh look, they've arrested another terrorist. Let's go for dinner."

Obviously the black bag was to avoid it becoming public that this national hero had been just been arrested by people who quite clearly are higher than police.

But, and it's a fairly big "but", even though the CIA were watching the CCTV, surely the hotel itself would still be monitoring the feeds? And even if no-one was watching and the tapes disappear, won't the broken door and his disappearance without paying raise suspicions?”


Um, Brody would not be taken out the front door of the hotel. Also, the face being covered was to make sure that the prisoner (or Brody) not see where he is being taken to.
Squiggle
29-10-2012
Originally Posted by spaniel-lover:
“Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but last night it clicked for me where I'd seen Nazir's lady 'go-between' before - she was in Lost.”

I remember Zuleikha Robinson from the series Rome.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0733196/
Smokeychan1
29-10-2012
Originally Posted by Squiggle:
“Um, Brody would not be taken out the front door of the hotel. Also, the face being covered was to make sure that the prisoner (or Brody) not see where he is being taken to.”

I love that when there is no rhyme or reason for an action, we assume one to fill in the hole
barnsleykeith
29-10-2012
The CIA will want to keep Brody's arrest a secret. So Abu Nazir's operatives in the US don't go to ground. Aileen disappeared from the show when she gave up what she knew. That can't happen with Brody. He is the star of the show. Just hope we don't spend the rest of the season watching Brody get ETT as they try to get info out of him. The speed with which he has been outed certainly surprised me.
barnsleykeith
29-10-2012
Originally Posted by Smokeychan1:
“I love that when there is no rhyme or reason for an action, we assume one to fill in the hole ”

Brody's surprise birthday party won't cut it. Dexter already did that.
blue34
29-10-2012
Originally Posted by barnsleykeith:
“The CIA will want to keep Brody's arrest a secret. So Abu Nazir's operatives in the US don't go to ground. Aileen disappeared from the show when she gave up what she knew. That can't happen with Brody. He is the star of the show. Just hope we don't spend the rest of the season watching Brody get ETT as they try to get info out of him. The speed with which he has been outed certainly surprised me.”

I know, it's only four episodes into the new new series! It's certainly moving fast.
Smokeychan1
29-10-2012
Originally Posted by barnsleykeith:
“Brody's surprise birthday party won't cut it. Dexter already did that.”

I haven't watched Dexter - a surprise birthday party is genius
doom&gloom
29-10-2012
First season we thought Brody wasn't going to turn out to be a terrorist and he did, this season we thought he was going to be a terrorist but he's going to be a good guy.
Woodentop
29-10-2012
Agree with many that the trait of ignoring procedure and implausible happening is perhaps necessary to move things along is relatively short seasons but it is unexpected the way that so much is being brought out, when more drama could remain with longer lines. The fear of Carrie not wanting to miss the opportunity is fair, but ignoring process and authority seems unlikely.
Fio Montoya
29-10-2012
Originally Posted by doom&gloom:
“First season we thought Brody wasn't going to turn out to be a terrorist and he did, this season we thought he was going to be a terrorist but he's going to be a good guy.”

I doubt that. Neither side will trust him, he's already killed two people and would have killed Carrie.
EastEnder39
29-10-2012
Originally Posted by elgransenor1:
“I think this show skirts around the issue too much.

what it lacks is constant action. there should be a scene where brody blows away the smug vice-president with a sawn-off shotgun. "how do you feel about this, you smug drone-abusing bitch!"

or maybe carrie torturing estes with a blow-torch and some pliers. "you didn't believe me over brody? well suck on this!" ”

You need to listen to the interview by the producers and Damian Lewis.

If you are expecting, or maybe hoping this show to provide high octane action constantly throughout every single episode, then you will be sadly disappointed. Although this show is produced by Alex Gansa who co-produced 24; this show offers something completely different. It allows room to breath and draws the viewer in.Whilst it does have it's similarities of becoming very intense & fast paced at times; it also allows you to understand the psychological aspects of each individual character. It allows the viewer to be drawn into the behavioural emotions & the political aspects. Well, in the first series in any case.

I would actually say that one of the main things that frustrated me about "24" (albeit, I loved the show) was the constant way the writing ran off the rails because the producers felt the need to rush through plotlines in order to throw in twists to please the viewers. It would appear that they may be going down the same path as 24 this season, pushing through plotlines in such a way that it's hard for them to pass the willing suspension of disbelief..

I loved the first series of Homeland because of the suspense during each episode, allowing the viewer to draw theories and analyse the way it was plotting together piece by piece.

It also frustrated me that Carrie who realizes what an asset Brody could be in leading the CIA to the other terrorist contacts, suddenly blows the whole mission and the entire terrorist network getting away because he 'made her'. That seemed a little forced and far-fetched. But, saying that - Carrie is a little unhinged and maybe we can put this down to her forgetting her meds.

I am kind of hoping that the need to somehow move the show forward in a way to create more 'action' doesn't ruin the shows direction and indentity..
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