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Homeland on Ch4 (UK Pace) - No Spoilers!
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blue34
18-11-2012
Originally Posted by mintchocchip:
“I'm really starting to feel like the show has lost it's way a bit. Estes could have sent anyone to detain Brodie and Dana at the Police Station, it was silly sending Carrie, risking blowing his CIA cover to his family.

I'm not interested in Brodie and Carrie repeating their romance.

This episode reminded me of the Saul of last series, lending such gravitas to it. His were the best parts of the episode. I felt sad for Eileen.

I'm at the stage of being interested in everyone else more than the main two characters at the moment! I like stroppy new CIA guy.”

Exactly the way I feel.
I think this was quite a sloppy episode - as you say why send Carrie to the police station?
Wish they'd feature Saul more, he's my favourite character.
I found all the scenes with Brody and his family really dull and unbelievable which is a shame as I really like the show!
feeVerte
18-11-2012
and me....
you know it was pants when even the character says the words the viewers want to shout to the telly -so to speak-... Carrie mumbles.... "your phone was switched off"... as if
She knew that Dana was not supposed to see that she is still working with Brody...
Sending Carrie for this mondane task was nearly as bad as sending Brody to the tyalor
Surely by now Estes should increase the capacity of the team working on preventing the next 9/11?... Annoying
RecordPlayer
18-11-2012
I'm more interested in Quinn now. He's an interesting character.

Did any of them mention the trunk - the one that was removed fro the tailor shop?

Did Dana say she went to the lady's funeral?
blue34
18-11-2012
Originally Posted by RecordPlayer:
“I'm more interested in Quinn now. He's an interesting character.

Did any of them mention the trunk - the one that was removed fro the tailor shop?”

I think one of them (Carrie?) said at the beginning they'd done tests in the tailors and it wasn't a dirty bomb but if it took two people to carry it out of the shop it must have been some kind of explosive. Can't remember exactly, will watch again.
Have to say I think this was the weakest episode so far.
dirty dingus
18-11-2012
Originally Posted by RecordPlayer:
“I'm more interested in Quinn now. He's an interesting character.

Did any of them mention the trunk - the one that was removed fro the tailor shop?

Did Dana say she went to the lady's funeral?”


They mentioned no radiation detected in the tailors so not a dirty bomb.
She did say she was at funeral and even counted the money in the collection box.
Can't be bothered with the two leads love in, in real life they should be hating each other.
Loving Saul and Quinn ones ying to ones yang.
RecordPlayer
18-11-2012
Originally Posted by blue34:
“I think one of them (Carrie?) said at the beginning they'd done tests in the tailors and it wasn't a dirty bomb but if it took two people to carry it out of the shop it must have been some kind of explosive. Can't remember exactly, will watch again.
Have to say I think this was the weakest episode so far.”

Ah, I missed that bit. I wondered what they thought was inside it. Thanks.
catsitter
18-11-2012
They said enough C4 to blow up a ??????? (sorry, can't remember what) or a synagogue.
soopytwist
18-11-2012
I feel like I missed out with this show. There was hardly any build-up to the first series on Channel 4 so I never even noticed it. Then everyone was raving about it but by that time the first episode was no longer on 4oD.

Now into the second series I still feel like I'm missing out. Pointless watching it without seeing the first series.

I was (and still am) an enormous fan of 24 (I once watched 8 episodes in one night!), would I like Homeland? I've been debating whether or not to buy the DVD of the first series. Of course, I've left it a bit late to do that and then catch-up with series 2 on 4oD as episodes 1 and 2 are no longer showing, so I'd have to wait for the second series to be released on DVD.

If Homeland is as tense, action packed and unmissable as 24 was then I'll buy the box set.
RecordPlayer
18-11-2012
Originally Posted by dirty dingus:
“They mentioned no radiation detected in the tailors so not a dirty bomb.
She did say she was at funeral and even counted the money in the collection box.
Can't be bothered with the two leads love in, in real life they should be hating each other.
Loving Saul and Quinn ones ying to ones yang.”

This is what I find confusing about the series. The timing - we're never shown how time elapses until someone happens to mention something.... like Dana in this case.
It could be weeks or months later, yet to me it always looks like the following day....
koantemplation
18-11-2012
Originally Posted by feeVerte:
“koantemplation... i normally watch it monday at 11am - work permitting -
what about you?...she casually asked ”

If I was watching at US pace I would watch it as soon as it was ripped from US TV.

But this series is shown only 6 days later in the UK which is worth the wait.
koantemplation
18-11-2012
Originally Posted by nomad2king:
“Don't the episode breaks tend to only happen with series that are 20+ episodes long?”

Yes I think you are right. But there are not many series that are shown on terrestrial channels that are under 20 episodes and shown less than a week after the US.
Party Animal
18-11-2012
Originally Posted by soopytwist:
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If Homeland is as tense, action packed and unmissable as 24 was then I'll buy the box set.”

I thought the first two seasons of 24 were really good then it just got more and more ridiculous

Homeland is far more realistic (bar some bits) which are Ludicrous I switch my brain off at the stupid bits
and you do feel for the Characters far more than the Jack Bauer saving the World which bordered on being a superhero TV series
thats the reason we gave up on it with all that rubbish shooting his own father in the family home etc

I would say definately get the season one it is great viewing with some great cliff hangars
jediknight2k1
19-11-2012
I'm finding series 2 dull compared to the first with to many subplots going on.

They lose 6 agents not long after someone else is seen within inches of Roya and Brody talking and no attempts to identify him, the teen romance story could have been shortened as Dana is as pointless as her mother for the show.

One thing I learned is that Carrie is more interesting when she isn't having a bi-polar episode and since the shock treatment doesn't seem to have affected season 2 then what was the point if it.

I'm sure they will try to string it out for 5 seasons but it needs to pick up the pace a bit if they do.
Party Animal
19-11-2012
Its OK picking up the pace but that is where most of these US programs start going downhill fast with the main star becoming superhuman and viewers these days want a little more credibility to the programs they watch

24 as an example was brilliant but they just went way OTT
Heroes was the same great opening season then the whole show collapsed with every man and his dog becoming super heroes and the effects team running wild

Homeland works so well because it is at least believable in parts and not an action man movie
solare
19-11-2012
I still think the series is great! I don't mind if it's a little implausible at times. I can't think of a single drama that isn't.

I like that Brody is so uncomfortable with the conflicting pressure from all sides - his wife, daughter, Carrie, the CIA, Walden, Roya and he's not able to appear so calm and collected as he was in the first series.

Quinn is a great addition to the show and I really like the sarcastic exchanges between him and Carrie.

The only thing I haven't enjoyed about this series has been the Finn/Dana storyline. Hopefully, we'll see less of those two now the "hit and run" incident is out in the open and Brody/Walden/the CIA are left to deal with the consequences.
SparklingEyes
19-11-2012
We all loved this episode. Homeland never disappoints. Yes, there are flaws here and there, but the acting is impeccable and the story continues to flow.
The scriptwirters had to have Dana and Finn break the news of the crash at this party weekend because it kept all the characters contained within one place. If Dana had told her parents at home they would have gone straight to the police and the whole series would have imploded.
I don't think the continuing relationship between Brody and Carrie is implausible. Brody stated quite clearly to Carrie that she was playing with him; he is confused and so is she. Damian Lewis's acting in the scene in the wooded area when they kissed was superb, his face shows so much confusion and despair. He is disappointed with himself and feels he has let himself and everyone else down. He clearly doesn't like double crossing everyone.
I don't know why so many people dislike Jessica. This poor woman has been put through the wringer. In one day she learnt her husband had killed his former best friend, and then her daughter has been involved in a hit and run.
I absolutely adore Saul, such a brilliant understated performance, he is wonderful.
I also like Estes very much and love the new character, Quinn, who appears to be almost as nuts as Carrie in a different way!
Casmana
19-11-2012
I personally don't like Jess because she comes across so bossy and woodenlike....not a lot of emotion or caring about her .
capekdeh
19-11-2012
Originally Posted by feeVerte:
“I know the felling... I am dreaming of a season 3 with a new love triangle qith Quinn at the centre of it ”

I agree. I like Quinn a lot!! I want to see him more.
EastEnder39
19-11-2012
Originally Posted by RecordPlayer:
“That has often crossed my mind, EastEnder.
Nazir's relationship with his son was rather odd.”

I certainly feel this is a side story that is wide open for interpretation and could prove to be a pivotal ingredient for future episodes and divulging deep into the character of Abu Nazir.
EastEnder39
19-11-2012
Originally Posted by soopytwist:
“I feel like I missed out with this show. There was hardly any build-up to the first series on Channel 4 so I never even noticed it. Then everyone was raving about it but by that time the first episode was no longer on 4oD.

Now into the second series I still feel like I'm missing out. Pointless watching it without seeing the first series.

I was (and still am) an enormous fan of 24 (I once watched 8 episodes in one night!), would I like Homeland? I've been debating whether or not to buy the DVD of the first series. Of course, I've left it a bit late to do that and then catch-up with series 2 on 4oD as episodes 1 and 2 are no longer showing, so I'd have to wait for the second series to be released on DVD.

If Homeland is as tense, action packed and unmissable as 24 was then I'll buy the box set.”

You can watch Series one of Homeland here. FREE.

http://www.movie2k.to/tvshows-2046582-Homeland.html

Hope this link is allowed.
Woodentop
19-11-2012
Thought it was poor actually. It took us nowhere and was filler in reality. We did learn that Brody now exposed, has developed a conscience revolving round his daughter. The rest especially Carrie and him rekindling their romance was awful and surely won't be a major part again as the power or influence is established.
Gort
20-11-2012
Am I the only one who doesn't mind the Jessica and Dana characters? Have to admit that Quinn is indeed an interesting recent addition. Interesting episode with some good Saul moments. It might have been "filler", but I appreciate a bit of addition to the story's detail instead of a constant need for action, action, action.
Casmana
20-11-2012
I think the romance thing is important because neither of them know whether it's genuine or if they're playing each other? Emotions can cloud judgement ? Carrie's been told not to trust Brody but her heart might be saying she wants to so perhaps the rekindling bit is relevant ? Brody made the first move albeit hesitantly , seemingly still confused after the kissing and saying he felt good ?
He doesn't actually seem particularly interested in Jess.
john176bramley
20-11-2012
Originally Posted by Woodentop:
“Thought it was poor actually. It took us nowhere and was filler in reality. We did learn that Brody now exposed, has developed a conscience revolving round his daughter. The rest especially Carrie and him rekindling their romance was awful and surely won't be a major part again as the power or influence is established.”

I think Brody has somewhat developed a conscience, however I also think he sees this as an opportunity to get himself out of the sorry mess he has got himself into. If the hit and run story is made public it effectively ends any hope of Brody becoming VP, so he'll become less important to Abu Nazir and therefore less important to the CIA.
feeVerte
20-11-2012
Originally Posted by Casmana:
“I think the romance thing is important because neither of them know whether it's genuine or if they're playing each other? Emotions can cloud judgement ? Carrie's been told not to trust Brody but her heart might be saying she wants to so perhaps the rekindling bit is relevant ? Brody made the first move albeit hesitantly , seemingly still confused after the kissing and saying he felt good ?
He doesn't actually seem particularly interested in Jess.”

Agree. As Brody was leaving he was angry at how good Carrie is at turning him around and he resents her for it because he knows that's her job
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