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But it's not the conversion it's what else he bought into too if he has - converting to Islam's no biggee but becoming an Islamic fundamentalist is.
It seems Nazir is the one playing my nice guy to him, apart from the egging him on to punch his friend to death bit - maybe he's just got a really, really bad case of stockholm syndrome? Seems likely it's more than that thought doesn't it? a certain target when the terrorists give him the signal? But who'd have the resources to brainwash a US Marine? The Iranians? A Rich Saudi terrorist? |
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Perhaps Brody has been brainwashed and will attack
a certain target when the terrorists give him the signal? But who'd have the resources to brainwash a US Marine? The Iranians? A Rich Saudi terrorist? |
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I think Brody has been brainwashed for the moment, him praying in the garage points to him being religiously converted. I remember a scene showing one of his captors hugging Brady, apparently brainwashing someone consists of a lot of beatings, a lot of torture, electrical shock, burials, near-drownings etc. They torture you to the point of death, and then save you, and the person doing this would become your rescuer or god, and say, ‘I’m the one that saved you and remember that.’ And they become your handler — your programmer. I think it's a question of whether Brady can resist and fight off this brainwashing, whether it's got him good and proper, or if he'll play along with being brainwashed to get back at his captors???
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finnaly watched the pilot last night and enjoyed it enough to gave episode 2 a go too,so far its really good
also..WHY DID NOONE TELL ME MORENA BACCARIN IS NEKKID IN THE FIRST EPISODE? i would have watched alot sooner! |
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WHY DID NOONE TELL ME MORENA BACCARIN IS NEKKID IN THE FIRST EPISODE?
i would have watched alot sooner!
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Well I’ll tell you you’ll enjoy episode 3 then!
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For all fans of Homeland and Damian Lewis, he will be one of the guests tonight on The Graham Norton Show on BBC1. I don't think i've seen any promo from him or Claire Danes on UK tv at all before Homeland aired. Nice to finally see him be interviewed on UK screens on a chatshow on primetime tv. Should be good!
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Well I’ll tell you you’ll enjoy episode 3 then!
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saw eps 3 last night,im personally hooked,hope it can sustain the quality
just one thing,was the whole necklace thing really required to just purchase a house? |
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just one thing,was the whole necklace thing really required to just purchase a house?
a) the house and the necklace are unconnected and the significance of the couple will be shown in due course b) the necklace financed the house - laundering c) the necklace showed how money can be laundered and other items of jewelry had already been sold to buy the house |
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a) the house and the necklace are unconnected and the significance of the couple will be shown in due course b) the necklace financed the house - laundering c) the necklace showed how money can be laundered and other items of jewelry had already been sold to buy the house saying that,the money laundering is a huge factor |
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i would say it is b) just seems wird that a terror leader couldnt raise 400,000 without going to such lengths
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way I see it with the necklace is two possiblities.
1. The prince is funding the terrorists and uses the robbery as cover for giving the terrorists money. This way he has (semi) plausible deniability. 2. One of the prince minions is behind the funding of the terrorism. He persuades the prince to buy an expensive necklace and give it to the girl. Then sets up the girl for a robbery. From what I've seen so far I go with option 2. I think the prince could have found an easier way to get the money to the terrorists. The minion won't have ready access to the prince's funds and needs such a scheme to do so. |
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way I see it with the necklace is two possiblities.
1. The prince is funding the terrorists and uses the robbery as cover for giving the terrorists money. This way he has (semi) plausible deniability. 2. One of the prince minions is behind the funding of the terrorism. He persuades the prince to buy an expensive necklace and give it to the girl. Then sets up the girl for a robbery. From what I've seen so far I go with option 2. I think the prince could have found an easier way to get the money to the terrorists. The minion won't have ready access to the prince's funds and needs such a scheme to do so. I agree, i don't think the prince ordered the girl to be killed and didn't know anything about it... but his right hand man is the culpit in all that terrorrism funding.....let's wait and see... |
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Hiya RP
![]() You've been busy on here. ![]() ![]() Loving this so far. Been waiting ages for Ch4 to air it. Well worth the wait. Too early to say if Brody is a willing convert to the cause. Or has been brainwashed, and is acting against his will so to speak(not sure that is even possible). Marine snipers are something of an elite. But they are only human after all. But to turn someone against their own country. That's a different matter. You can force someone to do something against their will- threats to family if the person doesn't comply etc. But Brody is home now. What I'm trying to get at- I don't know what is happening yet. A week between eps is a long time. ![]() ![]() ![]() I got carried away.... It takes me a couple of days to digest what happens in each episode because there are so many theories. I love it!!! I'm hoping Brody was strong-willed enough to fool his captors. How do you manage to remember all their names, BK? You must have an amazing memory.
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For all fans of Homeland and Damian Lewis, he will be one of the guests tonight on The Graham Norton Show on BBC1. I don't think i've seen any promo from him or Claire Danes on UK tv at all before Homeland aired. Nice to finally see him be interviewed on UK screens on a chatshow on primetime tv. Should be good!
![]() (Last weeks show was so dull, that I turned over before Graham announced this weeks guests.) |
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Perhaps Brody has been brainwashed and will attack
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The more I think about it, the brainwashing bit don't wash. I think that only happens in Hollywood movies.If Brody has been conditioned to act on a kind of trigger word or something like that, I'll be disappointed. We will be getting into 24 type territory here. That's fine for Jack Bauer. But I want more from this.
![]() If the brainwashing is Brody coming around to seeing the other side as a worthier cause - then 8 yrs is a long time to work on breaking down someone's belief system and imprinting your own on them. That, I can go with. |
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way I see it with the necklace is two possiblities.
1. The prince is funding the terrorists and uses the robbery as cover for giving the terrorists money. This way he has (semi) plausible deniability. 2. One of the prince minions is behind the funding of the terrorism. He persuades the prince to buy an expensive necklace and give it to the girl. Then sets up the girl for a robbery. From what I've seen so far I go with option 2. I think the prince could have found an easier way to get the money to the terrorists. The minion won't have ready access to the prince's funds and needs such a scheme to do so. Somehow, I can't imagine the prince being easily fooled. |
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way I see it with the necklace is two possiblities.
1. The prince is funding the terrorists and uses the robbery as cover for giving the terrorists money. This way he has (semi) plausible deniability. 2. One of the prince minions is behind the funding of the terrorism. He persuades the prince to buy an expensive necklace and give it to the girl. Then sets up the girl for a robbery. From what I've seen so far I go with option 2. I think the prince could have found an easier way to get the money to the terrorists. The minion won't have ready access to the prince's funds and needs such a scheme to do so. There are easier, more clandestine, ways of him giving money to terrorists, but maybe he wanted the CIA to know something was headed their way again? Fear of terrorism is more useful than the terrorism itself. Meantime, Farid washes his own hands in public of Lynne's murder. Maybe the robbery and murder points the CIA towards money laundering for some fringe terrorist activity - but takes their focus off the real target and objective here? No-one except Carrie and Estes have doubts about Brody right now. |
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I got carried away....
It takes me a couple of days to digest what happens in each episode because there are so many theories. I love it!!! I'm hoping Brody was strong-willed enough to fool his captors. How do you manage to remember all their names, BK? You must have an amazing memory. ![]() yep I love all the theories too, keep 'em coming.
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For all fans of Homeland and Damian Lewis, he will be one of the guests tonight on The Graham Norton Show on BBC1. I don't think i've seen any promo from him or Claire Danes on UK tv at all before Homeland aired. Nice to finally see him be interviewed on UK screens on a chatshow on primetime tv. Should be good!
...but am getting increasingly irritated by Claire Danes performance and can't understand why it has been so lauded. There are no shades in it, just semi-hysterical all the way through, flying around like a banshee, being rude to everyone, not looking after herself in any way and generally not behaving remotely like I imagine the CIA would. Acting wise, I think it is boring and not a patch on the nuanced performance Lewis is giving us so that we never know where he's going. She has no subtly and am completely baffled as to why she has picked up so many awards. |
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Yeah, but on arrival, they got time away from the real world (at RAF Lyneham) and bucketloads of support from counselling etc. Which is one of the plot holes in this show for me - "war hero" returns and within a day or two is back with his family without any provision to keep reporters off his street / away from his neighbourhood. I just don't see it. His wife didn't even seem to have time off work. (And yes, I know they're in financial difficulties but even so...
)But it is making good telly. |
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I assume something is amiss since we have never seen them before and it is a very odd way to introduce them. Plus, if you have cash to buy a house outright, why not use that to by a better house, and get a loan for the rest?
I think the necklace was to show how to launder funds and the house purchase is a result of previous activity, since it would require a bit of planning. |
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I knew this was on but for some strange reason failed to record it/them. The dilemma for me now is to wait until it is repeated from the start, or find a way to view the episodes I missed!
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Another plot 'difficulty' for me. A Middle Eastern looking man buys a house for cash next to an airport? This would ring alarm bells with even the most naive real estate person as Americans are paranoid since 9/11
The US real estate sector doesn't seem to have been too picky with who it sells to in recent years I don't see them turning down or flagging a cash buyer because of their race tbh and it must be a bitch to sell property on a flightpath these days?I bet they were only too quick to bite that couple's hands off for the deal. |
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- maybe he's just got a really, really bad case of stockholm syndrome?


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I don't see them turning down or flagging a cash buyer because of their race tbh and it must be a bitch to sell property on a flightpath these days?