Good to meet you barnesley

Wow haven't looked into the post all day, looking at it all we all should write out own drama

I think if he said he WAS in the second season, and there was some 'dramatic' final episode to this one, we would all have an idea....'he's not going to die'....because he said he was in season two.

oooh yeh brody cheated the test,intrigue continues

i hope the writers know where there going though,if he isnt a terrorist i wanna reason why hes lieing on the test

Just caught up with the last, superb ep.

Some thoughts I've got on what's going on. Carrie bonking Brody just to test him on the "have you been unfaithful to your wife" question is way off the nuttjob scale, even for her.

She's convinced Brody's been turned, has seen all his unusual sexual behaviour and then gets drunk (or not) with him, blabs out the reason for the polygraph and shags him? I can't figure that woman out.

Brody - if he wanted to find out what the polygraph was all about, what better way than to get Carrie drunk so she blabs it out, and he gets a shag as a bonus? But what was he worried about coming up in the polygraph? Details of Walker's death? other details of his captivity ie knowing Abu Nazir? or being turned? He's clearly got demons he wants to remain hidden but we're no closer to knowing if he's been turned or not.

Polygraphs aren't difficult to beat if you know how but taking this series at face value I'll presume polygraphs are the toughest things to beat without expert espionage training and Brody managed it - or did he?

What if he had memory loss of shagging Carrie? or what if his marriage is dead to him? Sex with Carrie isn't being unfaithful to Jess in his own mind. Especially now he definately knows about Jess and Mike. Maybe he was being honest after all?

but if he did beat it - Carrie knows he beat it and he knows Carrie knows he beat it. And Carrie can't prove it to Saul without losing her job. Interesting.

Sorry if this has been said before: but Saul/Gideon seemed cross at Carrie's suggestion to polygraph everyone, and removed the bits before he was done.

*waves at Denners*

Yeah, I think she was just so staggered (and disappointed) that Brody passed the earlier question that she thought fast and put in the "faithful" question as a spur of the moment control question... that she knew the answer to...

I think Brody did answer truthfully. Some people wouldn't consider a drunken quickie in the back of a car as 'unfaithful', to him unfaithful might mean emotionally unfaithful.

The alternative is that Carrie imagined the sex bit. Just a thought.

The bit at the end when Carrie got into Brodie's car isn't it really likely someone saw that? I mean it would look quite suspect that Carrie who thinks Brodie is a terrorist but then gets in a car with him.

Also why thump his best mate as the wife wasn't cheating on Brodie as she thought he was dead or should she always be in mourning?

A CIA mole told them Raquim was initially being followed, then later after the CIA found out about the email address, also told them to run. Someone in the know about them, and ahead of Carrie's CIA investigation curve, booby trapped their next safe house and assasinated Raquim when that failed.

So who's hunting Aileen and Raquim? Fellow terrorists trying to cut their losses before Aileen and Raquim give up anything more useful to the US authorities?

Or does someone on both sides of the US/Saudi intelligence service want them silenced for some other reason?

Aileen's had demolitions training - but we don't know from who. Could as easily be US training as some Islamic fundamentalist group while in Saudi Arabia.

The threat of Guantanamo - Aileen knows they couldn't turn themselves in. It's not the place you'd choose to go to prove your innocence. They've crossed the line against the US authorities somewhere but Raquim either knew less about exactly what or was very naiive. Guantanamo's existence means turning themselves in was never an option.

I thought their marriage was a sham initially - that's not the case but it remains to be seen whether Raquim was almost an innocent victim in this or not. He knew they were doing something wrong but Aileen is pulling the strings.

Hello Minkski *waves back*

Good to see you about - I've been playing catch up! Got a bit behind on important stuff like TV.

Ah... the Bill Clinton school of sexual logic...

Brody doesn't know that though does he?

As Jess and Mike admitted themselves in an earlier ep - they should have told Brody what was what - sweeping it under the carpet hoping he'd never find out now makes it sound worse than it probably was.

Yep she blurts out the first thing that comes into her head doesn't she?

She'll regret asking that question now Saul's onto her. And it got her nowhere until she admits to sleeping with Brody.

I feel sorry for Galvez if he's still tailing Carrie - the dossier on her's going to take ages to type up!

Hope the plans are coming on well

Exactly. I think his lie is to make us suspect him, but when it becomes an issue later on he'll just say he wasn't telling a lie.

Saul's first polygraph, now that was interesting.

I cracked! I'm streaming the next episode as we speak.

I have no willpower and feel dirty.

I promise to stay off this forum until Sunday.

The mole in the CIA reported that Raquim was being followed to someone in charge(I don't think they would talk directly to Aileen). This person then told Aileen who put the flag out to warn Raquim to drive by. So the CIA mole would report to the same guy(s) that Aileen & Raquim's cover was blown. Aileen's handler would tell her to get out of the house straight away. And go to the designated refuge. That would give them the chance to boobytrap the house. When that failed they attacked the motel. So how did they killers get to the Motel? Did they follow the runaways from the farmhouse. Or track them some other way- GPS tracker on their car maybe? Not really important that.

So the killer(s) are part of the Abu Nazir's terrorist organisation- and they are house cleaning. Or it's a covert US intelligence op? That doesn't complicate matters at all does it?

If we wrote the scripts there wouldn't be all these glaring plotholes would there???

Hello D & M, BK waves back

Hi BK

BIB - Well you know me - always going down some blind alley or other .

Whoever Raquim's killers are they leave a fair bit to chance don't they? Setting up and watching for the house to explode, ok didn't happen. But after following/tracking them to the motel you'd have thought they would have finished the job off properly? Riddling the motel with bullets from outside and missing Aileen was shoddy.

Unless, of course, Aileen wasn't their target? Hmmm....

BUGGER!!!!
So guess who just mistakenly went on the wrong thread (US) and have had the series spoiled

Hiya right back at you D. When's the wedding?

BIB BIB
Aileen is suspiciously blonde isn't she.

Raquim was shot through the window, the blinds were down. Aileen looks through a bullet hole in the bathroom door and sees Raquim's bloody body on the floor. He certainly looks dead. But you never know with this show. She then does a runner out of the window.

You are correct. Shooting from the outside is ''shoddy''. Better to kick the door down and kill our young lovers. Aileen was lucky.

The writers obviously needed her story to progress some more. Sometimes writers hit a point where they have to do something a bit ''silly'' to move the plot along. They needed Raquim dead(if he is actually dead), but Aileen still alive. So I'll cut them some slack here. Makes you wonder if it was just one shooter, or more than one man? Aillen is one smart girl. I think she was realising her own side are the ones trying to kill her. Whichever side that is.

That is such an easy thing to do. Especially when threads are similarly worded. I started a thread that was ...5USA paced. Someone thought is was US pace!!!

I stumbled into the US paced Good Wife thread and pressed back as quickly so I wouldn't see any spoilers. Funny some shows I don't mind seeing hints but programmes like this not really as it changes so often you probably wouldn't understand why certain things happen.

I thought Brody had figured out what Mike and Jess had been up to? I mean the guy isn't stupid all those hushed conversation and being like a dad to his son I think he has figured it out. Also if it was just a mad blip like punching the reporter then why choose to hit ten bells out of Mike and not one of the others?

I was reading about new characters for Pretty Little Liars and it said whatever the actresses name was and described her as the wife from a terrorist couple planning an attack on America. Now this was before the couple had been in an episode so in a way I was relieved they were shown as an anti American couple from the beginning so inhadn't spoiled the whole thing for myself.

Marin Ireland(who plays Aileen) is in Mildred Pierce. I Googled her because I was sure I'd seen her in something else but couldn't remember where. I saw on IMDB that she played Aileen in Homeland, so stopped right there. Luckily I didn't see anything about her roll in this drama. But sometimes you can't help reading something that is in fact a spoiler.