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Homeland on Ch4 (UK Pace) - No Spoilers!
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Denley
22-02-2012
Originally Posted by gemma-the-husky:
“someone mentioned "rape"

would that be rape? I am sure other films have shown a "frantic" session after a long absence. Hardly rape? They didn't show the gentler second go, after the "quickie" did they?”

Creepy scene all round - Brody's scars aren't just on his body that's for sure. My reaction to it mirrored Carrie's.

I'm surprised Brody didn't have some sort of psychological evaluation to undergo first.

3 days from being released from 8 years of captivity to coming back home. The bloke's going to be a mess.
~Minky~
22-02-2012
Loved it. Lewis + Danes gave v gd performances. Danes was great in R + J + I've always wished she got more roles as she's such a good actress. Never heard of Temple Grandin, will check it out.
Stansfield
23-02-2012
Originally Posted by Denley:
“Creepy scene all round - Brody's scars aren't just on his body that's for sure. My reaction to it mirrored Carrie's.

I'm surprised Brody didn't have some sort of psychological evaluation to undergo first.

3 days from being released from 8 years of captivity to coming back home. The bloke's going to be a mess.”

When he was being sick in the Plane, someone said...hadn't he been seen by the 'shrinks'....words to that affect.
Originally Posted by gemma-the-husky:
“someone mentioned "rape"

would that be rape? I am sure other films have shown a "frantic" session after a long absence. Hardly rape? They didn't show the gentler second go, after the "quickie" did they?”

Jess didn't look as if she liked it...and I was expecting Nick; was going to have problems, in that department.
odz1
23-02-2012
I loved the first episode - Hooked now.
and123
23-02-2012
Originally Posted by Matt D:
“Hallowed are the Orici's boobs ”

We are just rewatching season 10 of SG1 with her in so think my hubby was impressed about seeing her wearing very little in this too!
gjb
24-02-2012
Great first episode. Going to enjoy this
Bio Max
24-02-2012
Originally Posted by Bester:
“^^ Not forgetting that David Harewood (Estes) is English as well. Played Friar Tuck in the awful Robin Hood series a few years ago.”

And I see he still hasn't learnt to act in those years....
Bester
24-02-2012
Originally Posted by Bio Max:
“And I see he still hasn't learnt to act in those years....”



At least on Robin Hood that didn't make him out of place!
Kalik2k
24-02-2012
I've seen the whole of season one already but this is definately the sort of show you can watch a second time, it's that gripping. Carrie plays her part perfectly, couldn't imagine anyone better to play the role.
Moll Flanders
24-02-2012
I remember a very young Clare Danes in an episode of Law and Order many years ago.

Also, although no-one's mentioned it, she did of course star in Baz Lurhmann's Romeo and Juliet.
allie4
24-02-2012
Originally Posted by Moll Flanders:
“I remember a very young Clare Danes in an episode of Law and Order many years ago.

Also, although no-one's mentioned it, she did of course star in Baz Lurhmann's Romeo and Juliet.”

Someone did mention it on this thread - I believe she was about 17 when she did it.
That's mostly where I know her from. She was mesmerizing in that.
Yobaba**
25-02-2012
I don't know if I'm hooked yet. Might take me a few more episodes, it reminded me of a higher caliber kind of 24 (which I was so bored with by the end. Might be the reason I wasn't instantly hooked).
odz1
25-02-2012
Ha, I cheated and went on piratebay and downloaded all episodes.

Episode two is good. I liked it a lot.
gomezz
25-02-2012
Originally Posted by Kalik2k:
“Carrie plays her part perfectly, couldn't imagine anyone better to play the role.”

She had better tone it down for the rest of the series. She is already operating at 11 leaving nowhere to go. Hopefully that was just for the pilot so the series would get the green light.
MrSuper
25-02-2012
Originally Posted by gemma-the-husky:
“I am sure other films have shown a "frantic" session after a long absence. Hardly rape? They didn't show the gentler second go, after the "quickie" did they?”

Not to sound all pervy but was there more sex shown after the 'quickie'? Just makes me wonder if the episode was edited?? As Ch4 didn't show anything else between the couple after that. Does anyone know if the pilot was cut?
RecordPlayer
25-02-2012
Originally Posted by IRKarl:
“[QUOTE

Claire Danes was in Star Dust which was only a few years ago but is almost unrecognisable in this.”

Thanks. I've heard of this film but never seen it.

Originally Posted by Denley:
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Hi RP, I've not seen Claire Danes in anything before either- very strong performance from her - looks like she's hanging by a thread mentally.
”


Isn't she just I'm looking forward to her and Brody outwitting each other.lol I'm sure Brody's going to suspect her at some point...anyway looking forward to tomorrow.

Originally Posted by Stansfield:
“I recommended Temple Grandin which Claire won a Golden Globe last year.
And she was great in 'Baz Luhrmann's' Romeo & Juliet.”

That looks good - I'm surprised I've never heard of it.

Oh, so I have seen Claire before - in Romeo and Juliet. Agreed, she was great...I liked her as Juliet.
RecordPlayer
25-02-2012
Originally Posted by linnylou:
“I liked Damian Lewis ever since I saw him in The Forsyte Saga. Great actor. Just him being cast in Homeland was enough for me to want to tune in, before I'd even read up on the storyline.”

I only managed to watch a few episodes - unfortunately the main actress put me off.
LostFool
25-02-2012
Originally Posted by MrSuper:
“Not to sound all pervy but was there more sex shown after the 'quickie'? Just makes me wonder if the episode was edited?? As Ch4 didn't show anything else between the couple after that. Does anyone know if the pilot was cut?”

I didn't notice any cuts between the Showtime and Channel 4 versions.
Inspiration
25-02-2012
Originally Posted by gemma-the-husky:
“someone mentioned "rape"

would that be rape? I am sure other films have shown a "frantic" session after a long absence. Hardly rape? They didn't show the gentler second go, after the "quickie" did they?”

I didn't get rape from it either. It was consensual but I understood the scene to be illustrating that she didn't enjoy it and he was going through the motions in his own world.

As for the show itself. It's interesting. I worry Claire Danes is going to ruin it for me. I'm not sure what it is.. but it took me a long time to like her character in T3 and I fear it may be the same here too. But perhaps the character is being intentionally annoying to begin with and by the end i'll be a fan. I hope so.
ninjablossom
25-02-2012
this show is excellent, it gets better and better as the season progresses, stick with it.

I don't think it was rape either. I think she was expecting her husband back, and it just was an example of how 8 years has effected him and going back to normal wouldn't be easy.
theonlyweeman
26-02-2012
Originally Posted by LostFool:
“I didn't notice any cuts between the Showtime and Channel 4 versions.”

According to Showtime's website it should be 56 mins long, the version on 4oD is 53 mins long. Therefore we have probably lost 3 mins.

Some of that will have come from NTSC to PAL conversion, I seem to remember a figure of 6%, but this would make the show 52.6 mins. So I would assume that it hasn't been edited. However, depending on format the show was filmed in this may not have taken place.

As the show Channel 4 aired was probably strong enough to get an 18 certificate when released on DVD I would assume nothing was edited.
allie4
26-02-2012
Originally Posted by ninjablossom:
“this show is excellent, it gets better and better as the season progresses, stick with it.

I don't think it was rape either. I think she was expecting her husband back, and it just was an example of how 8 years has effected him and going back to normal wouldn't be easy.”

I get the impression he's playing a part (if we're to believe he's the traitor) and that was a sign of all his pent up aggression and frustration.
Steve35
26-02-2012
Originally Posted by odz1:
“Ha, I cheated and went on piratebay and downloaded all episodes.

Episode two is good. I liked it a lot.”

billykubrick
26-02-2012
I could not wait to watch the remaining episodes like others on this thread. Fantastic show.
Normandie
26-02-2012
Originally Posted by ninjablossom:
“I don't think it was rape either.”

It wasn't rape, not least because she didn't shout stop at any point. But it didn't look like wholeheartedly consensual sex to me - not least because at the beginning of the episode she appeared to have a partner - who could have been reasonably long-term.

They were presumably consensual partners 8 years previously but I'm not entirely sure I'd switch back on to sex with a long absent husband (or anyone else!) with no preliminary discussions or foreplay. Though from his point of view, I can see the assumption could be made that nothing had changed.

It's an interesting facet of the situation.
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