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Old 13-02-2012, 21:55
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At the 1989 Soul Train Music Awards, when Houston's name was called out for a nomination, a few in the audience jeered. Houston defended herself against the criticism, stating, "If you're gonna have a long career, there's a certain way to do it, and I did it that way. I'm not ashamed of it".

what happened was her music more pop than urban sound?
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Old 13-02-2012, 22:17
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yeah, and she was slated for being a black woman doing pop, which is the ONLY way to have a very successful career long term and make a big impact, because r&b is dead outside of the black community. she was accused of 'selling out' when in fact she was doing more for black artists than other black artists had ever done. Same criticism that rihanna, alexandra burke, beyonce and kelly rowland get for having dance and pop tracks.
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Old 13-02-2012, 22:20
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At the 1989 Soul Train Music Awards, when Houston's name was called out for a nomination, a few in the audience jeered. Houston defended herself against the criticism, stating, "If you're gonna have a long career, there's a certain way to do it, and I did it that way. I'm not ashamed of it".

what happened was her music more pop than urban sound?
Yes, that was the general feeling in the air. "Saving All My Love For You" , "I Wanna Dance With Somebody" etc were very pop songs but it got her famous because it was mainstream enough to be played on MTV and ALL the radio stations - as opposed to just the R&B stations which was more common for a black singer at that time because they would release more r&b songs (Aretha, Chaka etc etc).

She talks about it here in the link below for one minute from 3:35 . She gives a nice little acapella of the difference between singing "white" and singing "black"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4ahP...eature=related

edit: She also spoke about it again in an interview where she again did some acapella and said "if black people don't hear you singing runs all over the place like this XXX, then you aren't singing black enough" etc etc
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Old 13-02-2012, 22:25
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evident in this biography episode back in 2007

http://www.biography.com/people/whit...ode-2192386072

16:40 minutes when they talk about it
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Old 13-02-2012, 22:38
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yeah, and she was slated for being a black woman doing pop, which is the ONLY way to have a very successful career long term and make a big impact, because r&b is dead outside of the black community. she was accused of 'selling out' when in fact she was doing more for black artists than other black artists had ever done. Same criticism that rihanna, alexandra burke, beyonce and kelly rowland get for having dance and pop tracks.
well idk if beyonce directed that criticism or not because when she was with destiny's child she was definitely r&b. then her debut was r&b. her 2nd album was a mix of both pop and r&b. but 3rd album was definitely pop. so maybe she got direct criticism for doing pop and not using more r&b at that time of that release. but her 4th album was like old r&b songs from the 80's and 90's. so i dont think bey dont face any of that whitney faced.

rihanna i think imo faces it. because she aint really r&b too much. shes more pop and i actually think shes more pop than beyonce, janet, mariah and whitney. but she did trend to r&b earlier in her career but just went the mainstream pop route for awhile now.
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Old 13-02-2012, 22:42
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going back to whitney, it both her alot. so maybe the pressure of that made her go on an urban direction in her 3rd album im your baby tonight. it was a mixed reaction to some.
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Old 13-02-2012, 23:43
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At the 1989 Soul Train Music Awards, when Houston's name was called out for a nomination, a few in the audience jeered. Houston defended herself against the criticism, stating, "If you're gonna have a long career, there's a certain way to do it, and I did it that way. I'm not ashamed of it".

what happened was her music more pop than urban sound?
urban was a creation of the noughties, nobody called r+b that
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Old 14-02-2012, 00:45
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Yes, that was the general feeling in the air. "Saving All My Love For You" , "I Wanna Dance With Somebody" etc were very pop songs but it got her famous because it was mainstream enough to be played on MTV and ALL the radio stations - as opposed to just the R&B stations which was more common for a black singer at that time because they would release more r&b songs (Aretha, Chaka etc etc).

She talks about it here in the link below for one minute from 3:35 . She gives a nice little acapella of the difference between singing "white" and singing "black"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4ahP...eature=related

edit: She also spoke about it again in an interview where she again did some acapella and said "if black people don't hear you singing runs all over the place like this XXX, then you aren't singing black enough" etc etc
yeah they were pop songs but i think should just matter about how good the music is period.
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