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I wonder if there is anyone out there whos first TV was either a LCD, Plasma or LED TV?
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I wonder if there is anyone out there whos first TV was either a LCD, Plasma or LED TV?
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I wonder if there is anyone out there whos first TV was either a LCD, Plasma or LED TV?
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Probably so, anyone who bought their first TV in the last few years,
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It sounds like they never got to the actual cause of the problem - presumably something else was causing other parts to fail, and they never got to the bottom of it.
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as far as I can remember my parents had a colour tv, I think the first one I saw them having was a GEC make, it had no teletext or remote control. which was rented, that must have been as far back as 1978, they rented sets throughout the 80's, one went bang after 6 months use after we moved to Wales, that did have teletext, that set was left for us by the last tenent who lived in the house we swapped with. the first tv my dad bought in 1990 was a 21inch Sanyo with teletext and mono sound, I had that until 2006 because the picture kept flashing brightness every few minutes, and I got fed up with it doing that. I could go on about the amount of TV's I have had but that would take ages to type out.
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I wasn't aware we were discussing prehistoric B&W sets?
![]() But I repaired many such sets back from that era, and as I remember it the most unreliable ones were probably Ecko? (where you could replace the shroud around the core). The main problems were probably caused by damp getting in the windings, it was long before epoxy potting, and way back in those days you had the obvious problem that you couldn't pot the valve rectifier. I have heard of a British-made post-war set (a Murphy V280) with an oil-filled LOPT (may have been mains-derived EHT) complete with a valve in the middle of it. Sounds like shocking design!!! http://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=47002 As this was from the same stable as Bush, maybe this contributed to the awful reputation of RBM LOPTs? Apparently, under the Murphy V178C, it became commonplace in many a Murphy TV http://www.murphy-radio.co.uk/murphy...hy_bilia2.html |
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I thought RBM used the same LOPT in their 70s colour sets as they did in their dual-standard colour sets?
Neither did single standard colour sets use the same LOPTX's as dual-standard ones. Quote:
I have heard of a British-made post-war set (a Murphy V280) with an oil-filled LOPT (may have been mains-derived EHT) complete with a valve in the middle of it. Sounds like shocking design!!! ![]() What's your problem with oil?, it's a good conductor of heat, and good insulator for electricity. Bit impractical though! ![]() Quote:
http://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=47002 As this was from the same stable as Bush, maybe this contributed to the awful reputation of RBM LOPTs? |
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I'm still using oil removed from them
![]() What's your problem with oil?, it's a good conductor of heat, and good insulator for electricity. Bit impractical though! ![]() these nasty oils were also used in some oil filled capacitors. |
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Ours was hitachi colour tv got on hire when I started work early 80s before that a black white portable tv,no remotes back then to
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Off course when DVD players came out I got Betamax
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My very first colour TV was a JVC with wooden sides. It's now at my grandmother's, and 28 years later still works! 6 years ago I went flatscreen with a 32" HD-Ready Samsung, which is still great, but recently bought a Finlux 3D, which is stunning!
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Isn't the issue that some early transformer oil's were carcinogenic, I think they were known as PCB's (not printed circuit boards but some chemical name for the type of oil)
these nasty oils were also used in some oil filled capacitors. |
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after years with a tiny Murphy bakelite 405 only tv in 1971 or 72 we got a new hitachi 19" colour tv. Colour was still very new and the TV cost £495 - in those days an awful amount of money! I remember watching Queen playing Bohemiam Rhapsody in colour. The TV was valve based and very heavy indeed in a wooden cabinet. However, the thing kept on going and was still being used in the mid to late 1990s - the only thing wrong was a slowy fading CRT - the tv that took its place, a 26" ferguson only lasted 6 years!!
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I'm still using oil removed from them
![]() What's your problem with oil?, it's a good conductor of heat, and good insulator for electricity. Bit impractical though! ![]() ![]() Agreed on the impracticality though! (No experience of those RBM sets - anything pre-1960 is "too vintage" for my tastes apart from a few pre-war sets.) |
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after years with a tiny Murphy bakelite 405 only tv we got a new hitachi 19" colour tv. Colour was still very new and the TV cost £495 - in those days an awful amount of money! The TV was valve based and very heavy indeed in a wooden cabinet. However, the thing kept on going and was still being used in the mid to late 1990s - the only thing wrong was a slowy fading CRT - the tv that took its place, a 26" ferguson only lasted 6 years!!
The earliest UK Hitachi for colour that I can find is here http://www.golden-agetv.co.uk/img/equipment/89b.jpg |
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Hmm - you have got me thinking now - the TV did look quite similar to the one indicated so maybe was not valve - I know one of our family had valves in their set but perhaps it was not us - old age seems to be getting the better of me - anyway.
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I can't remember what make our first colour tv was but I do remember my father buying this huge tv that had a tape deck/radio and turn table built into it and it had 2 hi-fi speakers.
Something tele-centre if I remember correctly. |
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I can't remember what make our first colour tv was but I do remember my father buying this huge tv that had a tape deck/radio and turn table built into it and it had 2 hi-fi speakers.
Something tele-centre if I remember correctly. |
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Fidelity?
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Hmm - you have got me thinking now - the TV did look quite similar to the one indicated so maybe was not valve - I know one of our family had valves in their set but perhaps it was not us - old age seems to be getting the better of me - anyway.
http://www.oldtechnology.net/colour4.html#hitachicnp190 A lot of TV sets made in Britain and on the continent that looked like the Hitachi did have valves. My main reasoning for doubting that those early imported Japanese sets have valves is simply because the marketing gimmick for buying or renting Jap sets at the time was because of their increased reliability from usually steering clear of valves. In fact, the Sony I mentioned above is the only one with valves I'm aware of
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teleton made a valve ctv horrible to work on
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teleton made a valve ctv horrible to work on
http://www.oldtechnology.net/colour3.html#teletonvx1110 I can raise one worse - The Granada Colourette/Kuba PortaColour (they may have been the same as the Teleton above, but I'd rather forget about the one I used to have) http://bs.cyty.com/menschen/e-etzold...ortacolor3.jpg |
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thats the one
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My main reasoning for doubting that those early imported Japanese sets have valves is simply because the marketing gimmick for buying or renting Jap sets at the time was because of their increased reliability from usually steering clear of valves. In fact, the Sony I mentioned above is the only one with valves I'm aware of
![]() However, British all solid state sets were available well before any Japanese ones - as often the UK led the world. As others have mentioned, Teleton sold valve sets here - we sold a number of them, and they weren't 'too' bad. Presumably they were based on the American sets of the time?, America continued using valve TV's long after the UK had moved on. |
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I can't remember what make our first colour tv was but I do remember my father buying this huge tv that had a tape deck/radio and turn table built into it and it had 2 hi-fi speakers.
Something tele-centre if I remember correctly. There was also an AVS1600, which if I recall correctly was a16" TV built into a tower system similar to the then current Amstrad tower systems, but plus a TV screen. |
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