Queen Adele's 21 Overtakes Taylor Swift's Fearless In US Sales

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Hav_mor91

15-02-2012

Originally Posted by geordielady:
“Urn no she just is selling the most albums, that dont make her the biggest artist at all.

And you really have no idea about album sales, taylor has sold 24M albums, even an adele stan wont be able to find some dodgy sales figures that can claim adele has sold that many.
You post is so wrong on many levels.”

She is garnering critical and commercial sale in nearly very market in the world what is your definition of ''biggest artist in the world'' i'd really like to know

and i don't dislike Taylor or question her talent it's merely the fact that with childish lyrics and little to no progression on Speak now you have to wonder has she given all she can offer.

toanythingtaboo

15-02-2012

It'll be interesting to see what happens in the long run. It's not how you begin the race, it's how you finish etc.

I doubt Taylor will cross over to international popularity unless she "pops" herself up, but country remains one of the strongest/most consistent album selling genres and they do seem to love her for whatever reason...and it remains to be seen what Adele's future holds. Will she become part of the machine and churn out frequent releases, and will that lose her "edge" (too much of a good thing will always grow tiresome)? What will happen if she takes a few years out, will the market be over it or will she return with unprecedented hype and success?

My gut instinct is that Adele will have a shorter mainstream shelf life but in the long run her impact will outweigh Taylor's, purely because she's more universal and 21 is/was a phenomenon.

It's nice that there are so many talented female singer/songwriters amongst the most successful artists around right now. Compare it to the 90's or even 5 years ago and it'd be a different picture. Can only be a good thing.

robo2

15-02-2012

Originally Posted by geordielady:
“I have not seen any figures saying adeles total sales are 24M”

try wikipedia, you will note that the source stating 21 has sold 17 million was from the 10th of january, shes has been selling 250,000 worldwide each week since then, this week was 350,000 and next week is estimated to be around half a million

If_U_Seek_Amy

15-02-2012

Sorry but why are people trying to make Taylor relevant?

kieranyeah123

15-02-2012

I'm bored and I had 10 minutes to kill.

Taylor Swift

Taylor Swift - 5,534,000
Fearless - 8,681,000
Speak Now - 5,500,000

= 19,715,000

Adele

19 - 6,500,000
21 - 17,000,000

= 23,500,000

I like both artists so it's not to get one over on Taylor Swift and besides, she's released three albums where as Adele has released two!

konebyvax

15-02-2012

Originally Posted by robo2:
“try wikipedia, you will note that the source stating 21 has sold 17 million was from the 10th of january, shes has been selling 250,000 worldwide each week since then, this week was 350,000 and next week is estimated to be around half a million”

That figure is actually for just the US, not worldwide. Lord only knows what the worldwide figure will be,

habanala

15-02-2012

I cant believe the select few taylor stans on here are trying to belittle adeles success and trying to make out taylor is the biggest star in the world! I have never actually met a taylor fan and apart from the weirdos on here i dont think they exist in this country. And apart from a few 13 year olds in america she really doesnt have fans worldwide, unlike adele.
Why does GL continually dismiss facts?

Jeanie Gold

15-02-2012

Originally Posted by habanala:
“I cant believe the select few taylor stans on here are trying to belittle adeles success and trying to make out taylor is the biggest star in the world! I have never actually met a taylor fan and apart from the weirdos on here i dont think they exist in this country. And apart from a few 13 year olds in america she really doesnt have fans worldwide, unlike adele.
Why does GL continually dismiss facts?”

"Taylor Swift is selling out stadiums!!!"

konebyvax

15-02-2012

The US music market is being totally dominated by Adele at the moment; love her or loathe her it's the absolute truth.

Quote:
“Adele's 21 tops The Billboard 200 for the 20th week. This enables it to tie Whitney Houston's The Bodyguard soundtrack as the longest-running #1 album since Nielsen SoundScan began tracking sales for Billboard in 1991. That is a remarkable coincidence, since Houston died on Saturday, just one day before the end of this tracking week.

This is the seventh consecutive week at #1 for 21. It's the first album to log seven straight weeks at #1 since Taylor Swift's Fearless three years ago.

The album sold 88K digital copies this week, which pushes its digital total over the 2 million mark. It's the first album to sell 2 million digital copies. (The first album to sell 1 million was Eminem's Recovery, just last July.)

Adele's 2008 album 19 leaps from #19 to #9, which is its highest ranking to date. The album previously peaked at #10 in the week after the 2009 Grammys, when Adele won her first two trophies. This is the first time that Adele has had two albums in the top 10 simultaneously.

1. Adele, 21, 237,000. The album logs its 20th week at #1. This is its 51st week in the top 10. The album is #1 on Top Digital Albums for the 13th week. Four songs from the album are listed on Hot Digital Songs, topped by "Set Fire To The Rain," which drops from #2 to #4.

Adele's Live At The Royal Albert Hall is #1 on Top Music Videos for the 11th straight week. The DVD sold 27K copies this week, bringing its total to 574K.”

http://music.yahoo.com/blogs/chart-w...124552378.html

Gaspanic!

15-02-2012

Originally Posted by Hav_mor91:
“She is garnering critical and commercial sale in nearly very market in the world what is your definition of ''biggest artist in the world'' i'd really like to know ”

I think critical acclaim is bit of a stretch. No way will 21 be seen as a classic 10-20 years from now. It's nothing particularly new or timeless.

I can't believe the Adele stans are so bothered by the 'select few Taylor stans' that they start threads to rub their noses in it. Petty really.

shadesofblack

15-02-2012

Moved to different thread.

shadesofblack

15-02-2012

Originally Posted by Gaspanic!:
“I think critical acclaim is bit of a stretch. No way will 21 be seen as a classic 10-20 years from now. It's nothing particularly new or timeless.

I can't believe the Adele stans are so bothered by the 'select few Taylor stans' that they start threads to rub their noses in it. Petty really.”

It breaks up a rather boring day at work Gaspanic! It's not all fun having everyone agree with you all the time. Speaking for myself, I think it's hilarious!

habanala

15-02-2012

I can't believe the Adele stans are so bothered by the 'select few Taylor stans' that they start threads to rub their noses in it. Petty really.[/quote]

Im not an adele stan at all, if anything i probably like rihanna the most at the moment but regardless of who's "stan" you are no one else seems to be arguing with facts except the deluded taylor swift fans

geordielady

15-02-2012

Originally Posted by kieranyeah123:
“I'm bored and I had 10 minutes to kill.

Taylor Swift

Taylor Swift - 5,534,000
Fearless - 8,681,000
Speak Now - 5,500,000

= 19,715,000

Adele

19 - 6,500,000
21 - 17,000,000

= 23,500,000

I like both artists so it's not to get one over on Taylor Swift and besides, she's released three albums where as Adele has released two!”

Taylor got an award for passing 20M albums sales almost a year ago, the fact you think she has sold only 19m makes me LMFAO I tell you.

geordielady

15-02-2012

Originally Posted by Jeanie Gold:
“"Taylor Swift is selling out stadiums!!!" ”

Yep 11 stadiums in total on her last world tour, she played to around 140,000 fans in just 27 hours at the gillette stadium, incredible isn't it.

See this is what makes you a massive artist, not selling albums to randoms in supermarkets.

shelleyj89

15-02-2012

Originally Posted by Illeism:
“Why are some people so blind to the facts? Adele is outselling Swift right now, and will most definitely pass her total sales over the coming months.

This isn't supposed to a "stan war" or something.”

I'm not a stan of either, but when you start a thread bigging one act up, then using her to knock another done, obviously fans of the one you are knocking are going to comment.

habanala

15-02-2012

Originally Posted by geordielady:
“Yep 11 stadiums in total on her last world tour, she played to around 140,000 fans in just 27 hours at the gillette stadium, incredible isn't it.

See this is what makes you a massive artist, not selling albums to randoms in supermarkets.”

GL you should go into politics, you would be a great spin doctor!

geordielady

15-02-2012

Originally Posted by Illeism:
“Why are some people so blind to the facts? Adele is outselling Swift right now, and will most definitely pass her total sales over the coming months.This isn't supposed to a "stan war" or something.”

Well according to some stans she already has, you adele stans really need to agree on a figure.

But these online websites you use to pick your adele figures up from still have taylor as only selling 8M albums

Thats why i dont for one minute beleive adele has sold anywhere near the figures being quoted.

Hav_mor91

15-02-2012

Originally Posted by geordielady:
“Well according to some stans she already has, you adele stans really need to agree on a figure.

But these online websites you use to pick your adele figures up from still have taylor as only selling 8M albums

Thats why i dont for one minute beleive adele has sold anywhere near the figures being quoted.”

Same could be said for Taylor show me some certifiable facts and i may be more inclined to agree Taylor tends to sell mostly in the US Adele sells everywhere that is fact.

ilovezenyatta

15-02-2012

Originally Posted by Illeism:
“(Courtesy of DS FM Hotelier and Hits Daily Double).

This means Adele now has the bestselling album by any female artist in the US for years!

To be honest, I find Taylor Swift really is slipping. Her latest album didn't do as well in the US or worldwide, and her last record won Album of the Year - Speak Now wasn't even nominated. Her touring stats in the US alone are the only things impressing me.

Meanwhile, Adellah just keeps shitting on everyone.

Thoughts on this new achievement and Adele's dominance over dubiously ''talented'' teenyboppers like Taylor Swift?”

also didnt win for best country album either. i think lady antebellum should be the next big country pop crossover success.

Jeanie Gold

15-02-2012

Surely you need to sell albums to "randoms" to get sales. Isn't that how you get fans?

ilovezenyatta

15-02-2012

Originally Posted by Illeism:
“I agree.

Swift's writing is very immature too.
It's hard to believe Adele and Taylor are around the same age, when Adele is singing mature, balanced and emotional songs like Rolling In The Deep, and Swift is still singing teen girl diary entry fluff like ''Mean''.”

taylor only won 2 grammys for the album for the same song mean. best country vocal performance and best country song. i think adele really got the best album.

ilovezenyatta

15-02-2012

Originally Posted by Illeism:
“Oh, and Lady Gaga's been nominated three years in a row now - so it's certainly far from the norm.”

yeah thats quite an achievement to have 3 straight albums by an artist be nominated for album of the year. especially when they're their first three releases as well.

Blavatsky

15-02-2012

Yes Adele is a great singer but needs the support and expertise of a songwriting team.I am not saying for every song but quite a few.Why?
Will she write the next album entirely by herself?That is the true test of a great artist.Can you inmagine if Coldplay,Elton John or McCartney relied on a songwriting team.As with a lot of these new artists always check that they have written the melody and lyrics.Most unfortunately can't so go to a song factory or worse still a cover.Nothing wrong with that but it needs to be really made clear and if another person has wrote the melody or lyrics they deserve due credit.Check the facts here
http://www.m-magazine.co.uk/features...le-experience/

robo2

15-02-2012

stop denying the clear truth, there are hundreds of sites stating adele has sold those numbers,

feel free to explain why taylor swift is bigger than adele, or can you not do that

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