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Old 15-02-2012, 23:38
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I was quite surprised to read that Fearless was almost 50% co-written. Maybe that's why it has sold much better than the 100% Swift-written follow up. Who knows?
It's an oddity though as Love story, Hey Stephen, etc some of her best songs (Fearless up to track 7 was a decent Pop record) were written solely by here yet Speak now all her own was a huge step back and pretty damn poor just shows a lack of consistency and sustainability.
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Old 15-02-2012, 23:51
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Just because people buy an album dont mean its quality, she got the grammys simply because she has sold so many albums.

Album sales dont equal quality.
Wonder how many people who bought the album only play the basic 4 well known songs and not the filler.
Have you seen all the views her 'filler' songs get on YouTube? Every single one of her 'filler' songs have the potential to be a hit. I listen to the rest of her album as much as I do to the singles that are out now.
That question is pointless anyway. If that's what you really think, then every other album out there is only listened to for a few songs- That's BS.
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Old 16-02-2012, 14:17
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Why , 21 is not a patch on no angel by dido, number of sales dont equal quality and 21 is maybe the best example ever of that.

The album as a whole or the songs will never stand up to the test of time. 21 has tons of filler, even adele fans have said that, to stand the test of time an album needs to be remembered for almost every track.
This thread has nothing to do with dido, so why are you bringing her up? It seems you are using every artist to belittle Adele and the success she has had.

You keep mentioning that sales do not equal quality, when clearly 21 and Fearless have sold around the same amount in the US, surely Fearless is not of high quality?
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Old 16-02-2012, 14:29
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Proof that GL requires? This is from Music Week

Adele's 21 sold 14.5 million copies overseas last year.
The xl album, which is number one for the 20th week in the US this week following Adele's six Grammy Wins, sold more copies abroad last year than any other Britsh album has in a calendar year this century.
It is joined in the chart at number three by Adele's first album 19 with 2.3 million overseas
http://www.musicweek.com/story.asp?s...de=1048514&c=1

Add 4.2 million to that figures for the UK ('21' went 14x platinum, 4.2 million shipped, in the UK on 16th December 2011!) and you get a total of 18.7 million copies shipped for '21' in 2011. What with the crazy sales that have carried on in 2012 this album will now be between 21 and 22 million shipped worldwide. Add '19' into the mix (shipped at least 3.3 million ww in 2011) and Adele's total album sales just in 2011 come in at 22 million!
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Old 16-02-2012, 15:18
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Proof that GL requires? This is from Music Week



http://www.musicweek.com/story.asp?s...de=1048514&c=1

Add 4.2 million to that figures for the UK ('21' went 14x platinum, 4.2 million shipped, in the UK on 16th December 2011!) and you get a total of 18.7 million copies shipped for '21' in 2011. What with the crazy sales that have carried on in 2012 this album will now be between 21 and 22 million shipped worldwide. Add '19' into the mix (shipped at least 3.3 million ww in 2011) and Adele's total album sales just in 2011 come in at 22 million!
And Billboard have predicted a 21st week at no 1 in the USA next week and with sales up to 400K!!
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Old 16-02-2012, 15:23
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And Billboard have predicted a 21st week at no 1 in the USA next week and with sales up to 400K!!
Well thats Supermarkets for you
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Old 16-02-2012, 15:31
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In regards to 21's legacy and it's status as a "benchmark", I'd still say Back to Black by Amy Winehouse is the one album from a female artist that's going to be remembered and regarded as a benchmark in years to come. By no means do I think 21 is a bad album but it isn't exactly outstanding. I do think due to the sales and hype surrounding it, it has attracted both hyperbole in regards to it's quality and far too much criticism.

As for Taylor Swift, it still surprises me how well she's doing; she's a below par singer and song-writer, her output has been complete shit and her live performances are generally cringe-inducing.
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Old 16-02-2012, 15:33
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Erm, Taylor Swift is better & more talented than Adele. End of
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Old 16-02-2012, 15:35
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I prefure Speak Now to fearless, I cant believe people are saying shes inconsistent. All you have to do is listen to "19" to see how inconsistent Adele is
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Old 16-02-2012, 15:46
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And Billboard have predicted a 21st week at no 1 in the USA next week and with sales up to 400K!!

That prediction has been revised upwards by a BIG margin by HDD

ADELE, WHITNEY HEAT UP: It’s the perfect storm for six-time Grammy winner Adele’s XL/Columbia album 21, as the release explodes at retail, marking a year since its release last Feb. Judging by how sales settle after the post-Grammy, post-Valentine’s Day rush, Adele should do, conservatively, between 550-600k this week—her best to date—making her #1 for the, coincidentally, 21st week, tying the Soundscan mark set by MC Hammer’s Please Hammer Don’t Hurt ‘Em in 1990. And, ironically, bettering the 20 weeks logged at #1 by the late Whitney Houston's The Bodyguard soundtrack. Adele's previous album, 19, and live DVD are also catching fire in the marketplace.



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'Conseratively' 550-600k!!
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Old 16-02-2012, 16:54
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I prefure Speak Now to fearless, I cant believe people are saying shes inconsistent. All you have to do is listen to "19" to see how inconsistent Adele is
You need to look at the people that are saying that, we all know taylor is one of the most respected female artists in the music business, almost everyone that is anyone in the music industry has given her glowing praise not only for her songwriting but her stunning live shows and the way she conducts herself.

Speak now is a fantastic album and contains some of taylors best writing yet, and according to her record label CEO and her producer the new songs she has written for the new album are amazing. Scott Borchetta called her a genius, i will pass judgement on that when her new album arrives but if she can top fearless and Speak now then genius could be the right description.

i love fearless and speak now but speak now just has a bit more overall quality from a music perspective.
Songe like haunted and enchanted are pretty complex songs from a music perspective and both have fantastic arrangements.
I also love taylors first album, some great songs on that to in fact its hard to find any weakness in her as as artist at all.
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Old 16-02-2012, 17:09
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and according to her record label CEO and her producer the new songs she has written for the new album are amazing.
So her totally neutral and unbiased record label CEO and producer have called her new songs amazing.

Yep that's enough to convince me, she's obviously a musical genius......
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Old 16-02-2012, 17:34
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So her totally neutral and unbiased record label CEO and producer have called her new songs amazing.

Yep that's enough to convince me, she's obviously a musical genius......
Well its the first time he has ever said it about any of her songs, nathan chapman her producer and various members of her band who were privilaged to hear them have also made simular comments
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Old 16-02-2012, 18:36
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You need to look at the people that are saying that, we all know taylor is one of the most respected female artists in the music business, almost everyone that is anyone in the music industry has given her glowing praise not only for her songwriting but her stunning live shows and the way she conducts herself.

Speak now is a fantastic album and contains some of taylors best writing yet, and according to her record label CEO and her producer the new songs she has written for the new album are amazing. Scott Borchetta called her a genius, i will pass judgement on that when her new album arrives but if she can top fearless and Speak now then genius could be the right description.

i love fearless and speak now but speak now just has a bit more overall quality from a music perspective.
Songe like haunted and enchanted are pretty complex songs from a music perspective and both have fantastic arrangements.
I also love taylors first album, some great songs on that to in fact its hard to find any weakness in her as as artist at all.
It's funny you mention industry praise Adele has it in bucket loads yet you denigrate and diminish her at every opportunity.

To say speak now has musical compelexity is astounding to say the least perhaps for Taylor yes i mean 21 isn't exactly groundbreaking but honestly Speak Now could have been written by a teenager no disrespect to her but with lyrics such as this

''Someday i'll be living in a big old city and all your ever gonna be is mean'' sum's up her level of maturity doesn't it
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Old 16-02-2012, 18:40
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So her totally neutral and unbiased record label CEO and producer have called her new songs amazing.

Yep that's enough to convince me, she's obviously a musical genius......
And my Coffee just went all over the keyboard at work, thanking you muchly!
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Old 16-02-2012, 18:54
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It's funny you mention industry praise Adele has it in bucket loads yet you denigrate and diminish her at every opportunity.

To say speak now has musical compelexity is astounding to say the least perhaps for Taylor yes i mean 21 isn't exactly groundbreaking but honestly Speak Now could have been written by a teenager no disrespect to her but with lyrics such as this

''Someday i'll be living in a big old city and all your ever gonna be is mean'' sum's up her level of maturity doesn't it
Well that depends on how much you understand music really, guess you would say abba songs are not complex either.

And never ever said speak now is a complex album, just some of the songs have complex arrangements and are extremely well written.
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Old 16-02-2012, 19:14
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Well that depends on how much you understand music really, guess you would say abba songs are not complex either.

And never ever said speak now is a complex album, just some of the songs have complex arrangements and are extremely well written.
And never ever said speak now is a complex album, just some of the songs have complex arrangements and are extremely well written

just like 21 then, still waiting on your reasons why taylor swift is better than adele considereing adele has more critical acclaim and has achieved more commercially
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Old 16-02-2012, 19:16
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Erm, Taylor Swift is better & more talented than Adele. End of
only in the mind of an idiot like yourself, adele has had more ciritcal recognition and commercial sales than taylor swift, stick to listening to third rate whitney houston knockoffs like leona lewis because you are talking nonsense
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Old 16-02-2012, 20:02
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"21" will be longest-running No. 1 album by a woman in US history

Adele's '21' Set for 21st Week at No. 1

Adele's "21" album is going to celebrate its first year on the Billboard 200 chart in grand style. Fresh off her six Grammy Award wins on Sunday (Feb. 12) night, "21" is on course to sell between 500,000 to 600,000 copies by week's end on Sunday, Feb. 19.

Adele's '21' Hits 20th Week at No. 1, Van Halen at No. 2

Next week will mark the set's 52nd week on the list and it should easily rack up a 21st frame at No. 1. It could earn the biggest sales week for any album since Drake's "Take Care" debuted with 631,000 on the chart dated Dec. 3, 2011 according to Nielsen SoundScan. Even better - it will be "21's" biggest sales week, period. It's highest week came over the Christmas holiday, when it shifted 399,000.


Adele's first album, "19," is also selling well, and should move into the top five on the Billboard 200 next week. The last act to have two albums in the top five at the same time was Justin Bieber on March 12, 2011 ("Never Say Never: the Remixes" was No. 2 and "My World 2.0" was No. 5).

The new Billboard 200 chart's top 10 will be revealed on the morning of Wednesday, Feb. 22.

With a 21st week at No. 1, "21" will become the longest-running No. 1 album by a woman in history. (It's currently tied with Whitney Houston's "The Bodyguard" soundtrack, with 20 weeks.) Further, "21" could become the biggest No. 1 album by any act since M.C. Hammer's "Please Hammer Don't Hurt 'Em" spent 21 weeks at No. 1 in 1990.

Here are the albums with the most weeks at No. 1 in the nearly-56 year history of the Billboard 200 chart: (Weeks at No. 1, Title, Artist, Peak Year)

54 -- "West Side Story soundtrack, 1962**
37 -- "Thriller," Michael Jackson, 1983
31 -- "Rumours," Fleetwood Mac, 1977
31 -- "South Pacific" soundtrack, 1958
31 -- "Calypso," Harry Belafonte, 1956
24-- "Purple Rain," Prince and the Revolution/Soundtrack, 1984
24 -- "Saturday Night Fever" soundtrack, 1978
21 -- "21," Adele, 2011
21 -- "Please Hammer Don't Hurt 'Em," M.C. Hammer, 1990
20 -- "The Bodyguard," Whitney Houston/Soundtrack, 1992
20 -- "Blue Hawaii," Elvis Presley/Soundtrack, 1961


And look at 19!!! Number five! Two albums in top five in the US (and possibly 3 singles in top ten at same time!). Wonder if that's been done?
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Old 16-02-2012, 20:25
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Crikey, the predictions are getting bigger by the hour! I suppose the magic million is out of the question??

21 ON FIRE: Look for sales of Adele's multi Grammy-winning XL/Columbia album 21 to soar past 650k this week, and continue to gain momentum, thanks to the triple play of last Sunday's awards show, her 60 Minutes interview with Anderson Cooper and Tuesday's Valentine's Day resulting in a perfect storm at retail. The album will spend its 21st week at #1, while total U.S. sales soar above 7.3 million with no end in sight. Will we have to wait five years for another one? Just call Ms. Atkins the Jeremy Lin of the record industry. (2/16p)
http://hitsdailydouble.com/news/rumormill.cgi
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Old 16-02-2012, 20:32
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Crikey, the predictions are getting bigger by the hour! I suppose the magic million is out of the question??



http://hitsdailydouble.com/news/rumormill.cgi

Never say never with 21.

Number 1 selling album of 2012? Not sure, but 21 is going to give any album released this year a run for it's money.
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Old 16-02-2012, 20:36
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And never ever said speak now is a complex album, just some of the songs have complex arrangements and are extremely well written

just like 21 then, still waiting on your reasons why taylor swift is better than adele considereing adele has more critical acclaim and has achieved more commercially
Really where, on DS forums maybe. but in your mind if just albums sales:yawn::yawn: make a great artist then guess your a happy person then.

But for me being a great artist takes a lot, lot more then that but i grew up in a time when real talent was the most important factor not how many copies of an album were sold in a supermarket.
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Old 16-02-2012, 20:39
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Erm, Taylor Swift is better & more talented than Adele. End of

only in the mind of an idiot like yourself, adele has had more ciritcal recognition and commercial sales than taylor swift, stick to listening to third rate whitney houston knockoffs like leona lewis because you are talking nonsense
You cant go around calling people idiots on here, you really need to learn some forum etiquette
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Old 16-02-2012, 20:52
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But for me being a great artist takes a lot, lot more then that but i grew up in a time when real talent was the most important factor not how many copies of an album were sold in a supermarket.
Then why do you deny Adele's talent? You can have real talent and have a lot of sales, like Adele.
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Old 16-02-2012, 20:56
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Then why do you deny Adele's talent? You can have real talent and have a lot of sales, like Adele.
Dont think I have ever said she is not talented, she has some talent as she wrote her first album almost on her own.
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