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Adele Is Great But So Is Her Songwriting Team
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Blavatsky
15-02-2012
Adele deserves the adoration she is getting but please don't forget she has the best songwriting team in the UK who create a factory of hits,
It matters to me that she;'s not the complete artist since akthough she has written a few songs most are either co written or written completely by one of the team.You can't go wrong with this team behind you.She admits she should have thanked probably these guys more but I don't blame her since the night was so emotional.Please give credit to Adele team UK Read here
http://www.m-magazine.co.uk/features...le-experience/
geordielady
15-02-2012
To be fair she did write some songs on her first album but its clear to everyone that her songwriters have played a big, big part in the sales success of 21 and fully deserve any credit they get.
Hav_mor91
15-02-2012
Originally Posted by Blavatsky:
“Adele deserves the adoration she is getting but please don't forget she has the best songwriting team in the UK who create a factory of hits,
It matters to me that she;'s not the complete artist since akthough she has written a few songs most are either co written or written completely by one of the team.You can't go wrong with this team behind you.She admits she should have thanked probably these guys more but I don't blame her since the night was so emotional.Please give credit to Adele team UK Read here
http://www.m-magazine.co.uk/features...le-experience/”

She thanked every single guy when she won at the grammy's and she has written or co-wrote all her songs never has anyone written a song for her and plenty of artists have co-writers you should watch her acceptance speech in which she thanks her entire team and by name

And she is not the only artist to use co-writers plenty do like Taylor Swift and look at the beatles how does using a a partner diminish your artistry
lil lexie
15-02-2012
I think she's got a fabulous voice but I've found her songs quite weak tbh, it's only her performance that carries them off, had they been done by someone less gifted vocally, they wouldn't have been nearly as popular as they are.
mgvsmith
15-02-2012
Originally Posted by Hav_mor91:
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And she is not the only artist to use co-writers plenty do like Taylor Swift and look at the beatles how does using a a partner diminish your artistry ”

Taylor Swift and The Beatles in the same line. Get some perspective. The Beatles had three major songwriters who were also the performers. They seldom wrote together after about 1965 but they collectively changed the course of popular music. Plus some of their solo work is also extremely successful and innovative. And they occasionally collaborated with other artists. Different ball game all together.
shadesofblack
15-02-2012
Originally Posted by geordielady:
“To be fair she did write some songs on her first album but its clear to everyone that her songwriters have played a big, big part in the sales success of 21 and fully deserve any credit they get.”

Hey GL. Just figured out that Taylor Swift had co-writers on almost every song from Fearless! Every song! Are you freaking kidding me? This whole time you have talked sh!t about Adele's co-writers! Back to TS. Here is a partial list of her team of writers (pretty famous lot). Liz Rose, who wrote five songs from Fearless (yes, 5), John Rich, Colbie Caillat, Hilary Lindsay, Tommy Lee Jones, Cary and Nathan Barlow.
How many did Taylor write by herself? One?! :sleep:

And no one has ever written a song for Adele. She is at least co-writer. On every single song (except the two covers, obviously).
Hav_mor91
15-02-2012
Originally Posted by mgvsmith:
“Taylor Swift and The Beatles in the same line. Get some perspective. The Beatles had three major songwriters who were also the performers. They seldom wrote together after about 1965 but they collectively changed the course of popular music. Plus some of their solo work is also extremely successful and innovative. And they occasionally collaborated with other artists. Different ball game all together.”

Do not patronise me i was merely stating a point show me where i compared TS to the beatles i was pointing out even the likes of the beatles write with others regardless of being in a band or not so how's about you get some perspective
robo2
15-02-2012
Originally Posted by Hav_mor91:
“Do not patronise me i was merely stating a point show me where i compared TS to the beatles i was pointing out even the likes of the beatles write with others regardless of being in a band or not so how's about you get some perspective ”

there is no comparison between the beatles and taylor swift, they had no co writers as the people in the band wrote everything, the best taylor siwft single is a thousand times worse than the worst beatles single, there is absolutely no comparison
shackfan
15-02-2012
I do laugh at you lot trying to say that artists that dont write their own songs are basically inferior to those who do
One word... Elvis ( and I am not a fan of his at all) I believe he didnt write ANY of his. So what does that make him?
iseloid
15-02-2012
Originally Posted by shackfan:
“I do laugh at you lot trying to say that artists that dont write their own songs are basically inferior to those who do
One word... Elvis ( and I am not a fan of his at all) I believe he didnt write ANY of his. So what does that make him?”

shit
geordielady
15-02-2012
Originally Posted by shackfan:
“I do laugh at you lot trying to say that artists that dont write their own songs are basically inferior to those who do
One word... Elvis ( and I am not a fan of his at all) I believe he didnt write ANY of his. So what does that make him?”


The biggest laugh is the usual adele stans dragging tayor swift into yet another adele thread.

I mean i know they are clearly jealous of her and they know she is in a different class to adele but surely they need to find another artist maybe at adeles level to get jealous on.
mgvsmith
15-02-2012
Originally Posted by robo2:
“there is no comparison between the beatles and taylor swift, they had no co writers as the people in the band wrote everything,the best taylor siwft single is a thousand times worse than the worst beatles single, there is absolutely no comparison”

My point precisely. I don't necessarily agree about the gulf in class but the original commentator was misrepresenting the writing process in these cases. You have to compare like with like. And The Beatles and Taylor Swift simply aren't like with like.
shadesofblack
15-02-2012
Originally Posted by geordielady:
“The biggest laugh is the usual adele stans dragging tayor swift into yet another adele thread.

I mean i know they are clearly jealous of her and they know she is in a different class to adele but surely they need to find another artist maybe at adeles level to get jealous on.”

Way to try and divert attention GL. The fact remains Taylor Swift had help writing her biggest album! You are such a hypocrite. This is classic. I have no doubt the co-writers don't want to be reminded that they wrote that immature crap. Love this! Hahaha! I've lost count GL. What is Taylor now better than Adele at? Oh yes, the arena tour. Hmmmm. Check back with us in six months!
iseloid
15-02-2012
adele can write good songs, such as daydreamer off her debut. and hometown glory and my same. you dont know what the cowriters did, they couldve written the music. They made her express herself more directly than before.
my name is joe
15-02-2012
Originally Posted by geordielady:
“The biggest laugh is the usual adele stans dragging tayor swift into yet another adele thread.

I mean i know they are clearly jealous of her and they know she is in a different class to adele but surely they need to find another artist maybe at adeles level to get jealous on.”

well that's true

yeah Elvis was shit, and Sinatra, Ella Fitzgerald, Billie Holliday etc as well as all groups ever cos you can't take collaborations seriously.

the only genuine artist is the one-man-band you might find at the bottom of the escalator at your nearest tube station
geordielady
15-02-2012
Originally Posted by shadesofblack:
“Way to try and divert attention GL. The fact remains Taylor Swift had help writing her biggest album! You are such a hypocrite. This is classic. I have no doubt the co-writers don't want to be reminded that they wrote that immature crap. Love this! Hahaha! I've lost count GL. What is Taylor now better than Adele at? Oh yes, the arena tour. Hmmmm. Check back with us in six months! ”

You really need to revise up on taylors career.
shadesofblack
15-02-2012
Originally Posted by geordielady:
“You really need to revise up on taylors career.”

Nope. My work here with you is done. Wow. After everything you have said GL. I'm kind of disappointed. You've just lost the legs you were standing on. That argument no longer exists. And you knew the whole time.
Illeism
15-02-2012
Originally Posted by geordielady:
“You really need to revise up on taylors career.”

Actually, she was correct. Fearless is Taylor Swift's biggest album commercially and critically.
MrSuper
15-02-2012
I think you're forgetting her producer on 21 Paul Epworth won Producer of the Year at the Grammy's!
DLeon
15-02-2012
She co-wrote her songs... So?

Do you think you came across something that would end her career or something? She has never said she writes all her songs, so what's the point in this thread?
iseloid
15-02-2012
Originally Posted by MrSuper:
“I think you're forgetting her producer on 21 Paul Epworth won Producer of the Year at the Grammy's!”

well he would seeing as he was partly responsible for over 25m records sold globally this past year.
iseloid
15-02-2012
Originally Posted by DLeon:
“She co-wrote her songs... So?

Do you think you came across something that would end her career or something? She has never said she writes all her songs, so what's the point in this thread?”

NO idea.
mgvsmith
15-02-2012
Originally Posted by DLeon:
“She co-wrote her songs... So?

Do you think you came across something that would end her career or something? She has never said she writes all her songs, so what's the point in this thread?”

I'm not absolutely sure but I will sy that I was a little disappointed when I discovered Adele wasn't the complete singer-songwriter. But only a little disappointed.
Anika Hanson
15-02-2012
Just because she co-wrote it doesn't mean that she didn't make a significant contribution to her songs. She wrote the majority of the songs on her first album and has shown that she is more than capable of writing high quality songs.
Hav_mor91
15-02-2012
Originally Posted by robo2:
“there is no comparison between the beatles and taylor swift, they had no co writers as the people in the band wrote everything, the best taylor siwft single is a thousand times worse than the worst beatles single, there is absolutely no comparison”

Yes but i didn't com pare them i used both as examples that most people write with another person which is no detriment the person as artist your turning something positive into a negative

And its funny the hypocrisy of certain stans saying Taylor swift being dragged into another Adele thread when they brought themselves and her into it again and to be jealous of Taylors success more bemused that such imature lyricism can prosper Fearless was a good pop country album ends there.
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