Which is my point to OP Blavatsky.

It just happens that The Beatles generally didn't write much as partners, their main collaborator was the producer George Martin. That's a different process in creative terms. Also there are many bands and solo artists who are the entire creative force. I like to see 'All Songs written by Bruce Springsteen' on an album and there are many more like him.

To be positive then, it is quite fair to suggest that a lot of modern artists don't write all their own songs but they co write many songs and have a clear influence in terms of song choice and performance of songs written by others. And hence we get an album as good as 21 by Adele.

Which was my point even if someone writes their own songs there are other members of the production team that will add something to the pot to create great results sometimes people use co-writes or just co-collaborators

didn't Adele some time back say her 3rd album would be all her own work?

if so, and that comes to pass, we'll find out if she's pure genius as an artist or if she'll have to settle for being just the greatest singer of her generation

Settling indeed One thing I noticed in the article was how much her singing, timing, precision, professionalism and sheer enthusiasm was praised by all of the co-writers / producers and session musicians seemingly.

I'm looking forward to her 3rd album and if it needs co-writers etc to be as good as 21 then I'm fine with that. In fact I'd expect it as it would be the professional thing to do.

Hindsight is a marvellous thing, isn't it? IIRC The Beatles' first 2 albums (so where Adele is right now in her career) contained TWELVE covers (not co-writes, COVERS). I guarantee you no-one having heard their first 2 albums would have predicted what subsequently happened.

Unless it's someone seriously basic and untalented, I agree.

Hands up who saw Like a Prayer coming from the NYC club chick who wrote Lucky Star!

cant you just enjoy the music or is that not possible?

I can see where the OP is coming from. It's a matter of how much credit or praise someone deserves. When it comes to singer-songwriters I can't praise them that highly or think of them as that talented if they need other people to write the songs. That's not to say they don't have some talent but I will save the superlatives for the artists who deserve it more.

It's weird because this attitude only seems to invade the music biz. I don't see anyone questioning Meryl Streep's undoubted talent, for instance, because she didn't write the screenplay to Iron Lady. It is a little bizarre to me.

The other side of that is that the screen writers feel they never get the credit they deserve. And the debate in film studies is about what is authorship when film-making is by its nature a collaborative undertaking?

Springsteen's documentary 'The Promise' on the making of 'Darkness at the Edge of Town' does provide some insight here on the creative process.

Lots of sheep seem to be buying Adele's morose album because 'Its the cool thing to do'

Nobody gave a toss about her first album.

She is a 2012 version of Dido.

Nothing more,nothing less.

Her first album won two Grammy's and has sold 6 million copies WW and was released 4 years ago are people talking about any other album released 4 years ago ????

Adele wrote Hometown Glory in ten minutes when she was 16! how can anyone say she cant write music on her own? Some people just hate it when someone is successful

www.google.com

no one cared about 19? It was successful worldwide and won a grammy

You do know she didnt write one bit of Make you Feel My Love dont you?

i agree 100%. the americans are handing out grammy awards left, right and centre. yet in the uk, forums are on fire with people saying its undeserved.

Of course if you say so.

Exactly!

Or the obsessive TS fans having a dig at Adele at every opportunity. Give it a rest luv, it is beyond childish and pathetic now.

True i forgot and lovesong on 21 lol

Who is having a dig at adele , all i did was praise her songwriting team in post #2 which is really what this thread was created for.

You guys, chill out. She didnt write alone her songs, but she did write like 80% of them. She was the one that came up with the general ideas and all songs are inspired from her real life.

19 album was almost entirely written by her and its amazing. she is an amazing song writer, and the thing that matters the most is that she's writing from her heart, that its not fiction.

Like someone else said, Hometown Glory was written when she was only 16, in a few minutes. Now tell me that is not amazing!
Also, for someone that is not into literature and poems she writes ****ing good music.

And dont come and tell me that she won 6 grammys for co-written music. Well, she's not the only one that has co-writers, is she? They all have. And yet, she was the one that won.

You can't really compare Adele to Dido. Dido only had success because she was lucky enough to have Eminen use one of her tracks and the public soon lost interest when they realised her subsequent albums were just more of the same monotonous voice. Adele has earnt her success on her own merit with two very strong albums showing off her vocal talents and writing skills along with close collaborations with other song writers and the odd cover.