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The Ratings Thread (Part 32)
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ftv
22-02-2012
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Can't argue with that Brits rating, obviously a come down from the Britpop peak of 11m, but still up on recent years and promoting it as The Adele Show paid dividends for ITV.

Unfortunately the fall out from ITV's latest "crucial moment missed" means it is currently third lead story on the BBC News website. Ooops.

Did Mick and Sam make the news bulletins in 1987?”

I'm pretty sure they featured on the BBC News as I saw a clip but never watched the actual event.I think they also featured subsequently in ''TV C**k up'' type programmes.
I notice News at Ten can be knocked back for football matches but not other types of events. Tonight we have a match on ITV with two non-British teams which could easily overrun and affect NAT which seems ridiculous.
D.M.N.
22-02-2012
The rating for the BRITs makes it look like a ridiculous move to wrap it up quick considering it won from 8pm to 10pm. Excluding football, BGT and I'm a Celebrity, when was the last time ITV did that? I'm thinking during Corrie's 50th week but I may be wrong.
Charnham
22-02-2012
that Brits ratings looks good in text, until you realise that 6.2 million people, are all going to feel pretty annoyed with ITV, its most likely damaged the ITV in their eyes.
derek500
22-02-2012
New sitcom pilot being made for ITV set in a Job Centre.

Quote:
“ITV1 has ordered a comedy pilot based in a job centre from the makers of Rev.

Big Talk Productions is currently in production on the non-TX pilot, which stars Being Human and Him & Her actor Russell Tovey.

The Job Lot will be based in an employment centre and although details are sketchy, it could look to target a similar blue collar audience to Benidorm.

ITV1 has been on the hunt for new sitcoms for some time and director of television Peter Fincham has suggested that he could launch a comedy season. The hope is that this will signpost fresh content and bring in audiences.

Fincham told the Edinburgh International Television Festival last year that ITV had “lost its nerve” on comedy and he was intrigued by the popularity of sitcoms with laughter tracks at the LA Screenings.”

http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/c...038349.article

Who remembers the other ITV sitcom set in a Job Centre, The Worker, with Charlie Drake and Henry McGee?
grahamzxy
22-02-2012
Originally Posted by derek500:
“New sitcom pilot being made for ITV set in a Job Centre.
http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/c...038349.article

Who remembers the other ITV sitcom set in a Job Centre, The Worker, with Charlie Drake and Henry McGee?”

I doubt 90% of posters here were born when that started. I was born 1969 and I have never heard of it until I googled it. Who said ITV1 was short of new ideas? Sadly the 2012 reincarnate of Charlie Drake is Joe Swash - geeze that accent grates.

Quote:
“Charlie Drake played a 'little man' character whose attempts to find an honest job were always scuppered by fate. Henry McGee, best known today for his appearances in The Benny Hill Show, was his long-suffering employment officer.”

Steve Williams
22-02-2012
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Did Mick and Sam make the news bulletins in 1987?”

It wasn't 1987, it was 1989. They're unlikely to show 1987 again, it was presented by Jonathan King. Mick and Sam's show is on YouTube in full, and it was fantastic, and Smash Hits the following week did a brilliant big feature about what a mess it all was, asking "Who chose the winners?", "Why was it all such a mess?" and "Who is Randy Newman?". I remember someone from the BPI being quoted in it saying that he wondered if they should even bother televising it again.

Anyway, this exact same thing happened in 1988 when Rick Astley was on his way to the stage to pick up his award but The Who started playing and so he never got to do a speech or anything. I don't see what a disaster this was, at least she was given the award.
Agent F
22-02-2012
Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“It wasn't 1987, it was 1989. They're unlikely to show 1987 again, it was presented by Jonathan King. Mick and Sam's show is on YouTube in full, and it was fantastic, and Smash Hits the following week did a brilliant big feature about what a mess it all was, asking "Who chose the winners?", "Why was it all such a mess?" and "Who is Randy Newman?". I remember someone from the BPI being quoted in it saying that he wondered if they should even bother televising it again.

Anyway, this exact same thing happened in 1988 when Rick Astley was on his way to the stage to pick up his award but The Who started playing and so he never got to do a speech or anything. I don't see what a disaster this was, at least she was given the award.”

It's the internet though, and specifically Twitter, which always blows these things way out of proportion. It only takes a few people to start tweeting hysterically and it becomes a 'controversy'.
jojo2008
22-02-2012
EastEnders really is struggling atm. It's going to be in for a bad summer I reckon.
Charnham
22-02-2012
Originally Posted by jojo2008:
“EastEnders really is struggling atm. It's going to be in for a bad summer I reckon.”

this summer is going to be a really wildcard for EE, TBH this summer would have been a good time for the between producers episodes to air. I suspect its too late for that now.
grahamzxy
22-02-2012
Excellent rating for Brit Awards, the show was poor I thought, some popular music is so bland - last night we had it in spades. Cutting Adele off let her know that ITV1 won't be needing her for An Audience With..... Shame Prisoner's Wives dipped, deserves a lot more viewers - having said that, I watch it at weekends myself.
grahamzxy
22-02-2012
Originally Posted by jojo2008:
“EastEnders really is struggling atm. It's going to be in for a bad summer I reckon.”

Could you define struggling for us?

Quote:
“BBC1 w/e 12 Feb 2012
Millions

EASTENDERS (THU 1929) 9.85
EASTENDERS (FRI 1959) 9.48
EASTENDERS (TUE 1929) 9.40
EASTENDERS (MON 2000) 9.25”

Quote:
“BBC3 w/e 12 Feb 2012
000's

EASTENDERS (TUE 2201) 933
EASTENDERS (MON 2200) 863
EASTENDERS (THU 2202) 719
EASTENDERS (FRI 2200) 593 (overnight)”

All 4 episodes 10m+ consolidated rated

For comparison

Quote:
“BBC1 w/e 13 Feb 2011
Millions

EASTENDERS (MON 1959) 9.94
EASTENDERS (THU 1928) 9.25
EASTENDERS (FRI 2000) 9.13
EASTENDERS (TUE 1927) 7.51”

Quote:
“BBC3 w/e 13 Feb 2011
000's

EASTENDERS (TUE 2202) 1,391
EASTENDERS (THU 2201) 1,109
EASTENDERS (MON 2202) 919
EASTENDERS (FRI 2203) 784”

Only 2 episodes 10m+ consolidated rated
Steve Williams
22-02-2012
Just to put on record, by the way, the worst scheduling in the history of television on Sunday when BBC1 are showing highlights of the League Cup Final at 11.05pm - ten minutes before Match of the Day finishes on BBC2! What's happened there? The bizarre thing is that MOTD is followed by a repeat of Three Men In A Boat which is exactly the same length as the League Cup highlights, so it could have fitted there perfectly.

I can see why they do the highlights of the final and I can see why they have to do them in a separate show for contractual reasons. But football against football!
D.M.N.
22-02-2012
Originally Posted by jojo2008:
“EastEnders really is struggling atm. It's going to be in for a bad summer I reckon.”

To be honest, from June 8th to August 12th, there is little point in looking at any of the soaps ratings in great detail given that the main three will vary wildly due to Euro 2012 and then the Olympics. Year to year comparisons will also mean that the three big soaps will be recording probably double digit drops.
ftv
22-02-2012
Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“Just to put on record, by the way, the worst scheduling in the history of television on Sunday when BBC1 are showing highlights of the League Cup Final at 11.05pm - ten minutes before Match of the Day finishes on BBC2! What's happened there? The bizarre thing is that MOTD is followed by a repeat of Three Men In A Boat which is exactly the same length as the League Cup highlights, so it could have fitted there perfectly.

I can see why they do the highlights of the final and I can see why they have to do them in a separate show for contractual reasons. But football against football!”

Perhaps you should drop a line to Danny Cohen and point it out to him, the solution does seem rather obvious
grahamzxy
22-02-2012
Originally Posted by ftv:
“Perhaps you should drop a line to Danny Cohen and point it out to him, the solution does seem rather obvious”

BBC1 23:05 - The League Cup Show: Liverpool v Cardiff City, most viewers will have seen it live, but keeping it on BBC1 will increase viewing share. Also the last minutes of MotD are waffle as are the opening minutes of TLCS, very little if any action will be missed. As long as Liverpool win 3-0 or better, who cares?
Bushmills
22-02-2012
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“This thread would have been full of complaints saying that ITV were only extending it to get more ad money, overkill, too long, ratings dented due to the bad decision of it being longer etc.

So much benefit of hindsight pretty much daily in this thread.”

You don't need hindsight to tell you that a two-hour show will last precisely 120 minutes.

They have people in the control room with stopwatches, so they must have known they were "over running" well before they got to Adele. This was the absolute climax of the event, the equivalent of Oscar for "Best Picture". They should have cut the time from earlier performances and acceptance speeches, or else made the decision to have two Blur songs instead of three. But they didn't, so Adele was cut off after 12 seconds.

ITV got a great rating, but it deserves the PR kicking its taking today. At least when it famously cut to a TicTac advert and missed a goal in an FA Cup match a few years ago, it was the result of technical error. This was amateurish production, pure and simple.
ftv
22-02-2012
Originally Posted by grahamzxy:
“I doubt 90% of posters here were born when that started. I was born 1969 and I have never heard of it until I googled it. Who said ITV1 was short of new ideas? Sadly the 2012 reincarnate of Charlie Drake is Joe Swash - geeze that accent grates.”

Some Mothers Do Have Them starring Michael Crawford regularly featured his spectacularly unsuccessful attempts to get a job
GeorgeS
22-02-2012
Originally Posted by Bushmills:
“You don't need hindsight to tell you that a two-hour show will last precisely 120 minutes.

They have people in the control room with stopwatches, so they must have known they were "over running" well before they got to Adele. This was the absolute climax of the event, the equivalent of Oscar for "Best Picture". They should have cut the time from earlier performances and acceptance speeches, or else made the decision to have two Blur songs instead of three. But they didn't, so Adele was cut off after 12 seconds.

ITV got a great rating, but it deserves the PR kicking its taking today. At least when it famously cut to a TicTac advert and missed a goal in an FA Cup match a few years ago, it was the result of technical error. This was amateurish production, pure and simple.”

What would The Brits be without amateurish production! Its their calling card.
Georged123
22-02-2012
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“This thread would have been full of complaints saying that ITV were only extending it to get more ad money, overkill, too long, ratings dented due to the bad decision of it being longer etc.

So much benefit of hindsight pretty much daily in this thread.”

You dont half sound like you have a complex about how this thread's so called double standards against ITV.

Give it a rest and go and see a doctor about your paranoia.
Emine.C
22-02-2012
Originally Posted by Georged123:
“You dont half sound like you have a complex about how this thread's so called double standards against ITV.

Give it a rest and go and see a doctor about your paranoia.”

ITA it's very tiresome now.
AlexiR
22-02-2012
I disagree that the Brits needed to be two and a half hours. I'm not reading much criticism that the show itself was rushed but rather that the last five minutes was a shambles. The issue here is that the Brits needed an additional 5 minutes not another 30.
iaindb
22-02-2012
Originally Posted by grahamzxy:
“I doubt 90% of posters here were born when that started. I was born 1969 and I have never heard of it until I googled it. Who said ITV1 was short of new ideas? Sadly the 2012 reincarnate of Charlie Drake is Joe Swash - geeze that accent grates.”

The Worker ran for two series in 1965, was revived in 1969 and then again in 1978 as part of Bruce Forsyth's Big Night which is where I first encountered it, aged 12.


I believe that one of the reasons that Benidorm is a hit is because its style harks back to a bygone ITV age of shamelessly unsubtle working-class comedies such as On The Buses, Nearest And Dearest, Bless This House and Love Thy Neighbour. And it's a very close cousin of eighties smash-hit sitcom Duty Free. So doing updated versions of old comedy ideas from the past doesn't sound such a daft idea for a channel that has struggled badly with sitcoms over the past 15 years - Benidorm is just about the first ratings hit sitcom ITV has had since The Upper Hand ended in 1996.
derek500
22-02-2012
Grimm looks like a hit for Watch.

Just heard from an insider that the first episode has consolidated at 1m plus (inc +1, not including repeats).
D.M.N.
22-02-2012
ITV are set to axe Wild at Heart, assuming The Mirror are to be believed: http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/tv-film-...t-heart-736938 Although I do think it deserves a last send-off next year (or maybe a two/three part series ender) instead of having it axed after the last episode has been shown.

One thing that has already been axed, and quite unsurprisingly is Eternal Law: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...ne-series.html
Dancc
22-02-2012
Quote:
“Dominic Monaghan, best known for roles in Lord of the Rings and Lost, to front a series for Channel 5 in which he will hunt for the world’s most dangerous and elusive insects.

The 8 x 60-minute travel-adventure series, titled Wild Things with Dominic Monaghan, will be co-funded by C5, Canadian broadcaster OLN and BBC America.

The series, which is being made by Cream Productions and Wildfire Television, will visit locations including Ecuador, Venezuela, Cameroon, Namibia, Thailand and Borneo.”

http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/b...038326.article
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