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The Ratings Thread (Part 32)
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Brekkie
22-02-2012
Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“I hope cost effective drama means co-productions rather than doing it on the cheap, I think they should try and do one new drama a year whether it be a series or a one-off.”

And it only takes one drama to take off and the image of a channel is substantially boosted. I think most people think Being Human now when they think of BBC3 - rather than the cheap yoof comedy they were churning out only a couple of years ago.
excel99
22-02-2012
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Jeff Ford (Channel 5 controller) had a lot of interesting things to say today:

- Despite launching their own production arm, he stressed commitment to the U.S. acquisitions going forward, but only those capable of 1.5 million viewers. He also said they would look at imports from Australia for the digital channels, but not foreign language imports.”

The 1.5 million barrier is probably about right short-medium term for C5 if they have ambition going forward, and if imports are destined for 9pm. Too often myself, at least, finds it easy to say 'at least it's over a million'. But if C5 has ambition it needs to be aiming higher. Having said that depending on the price paid if a US import got 1.4 million at 10pm, that would be a good performance wouldn't it?

Looking for non-US imports could add some variety to C5/5*. They might be total trash, I've not watched them, but what about RTE's Raw and LOVE/HATE? From what I've read about Raw in theory at least it should appeal to a young demographic. LOVE/HATE has been shown by STV but I don't know what reaction or ratings it got

Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“As for Channel 5 productions, I think they should consider partnering with someone like BBC Worldwide, ITV Global or Shine to develop shows that could be successful for the channel and also could be exported so they could make money from it.”

Not C5 Productions, but a C5 co-funded factual show with BBC America (and a Canadian broadcaster) was announced today
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...&postcount=475
Jonwo
22-02-2012
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“And it only takes one drama to take off and the image of a channel is substantially boosted. I think most people think Being Human now when they think of BBC3 - rather than the cheap yoof comedy they were churning out only a couple of years ago.”

I agree, Being Human was originally part of a series of pilots ordered for BBC Three by Danny Cohen. I believe the other pilot which was intially ordered to series then cancelled was Phoo Action which I liked but it wasn't well received.
RobbieSykes123
22-02-2012
Originally Posted by farmermike:
“Request. Please can we all stop using TBH during Lent this year? It really is meaningless!”

STFU...

Originally Posted by Joe40:
“After one of the worst TV football games of the season, something's finally happened on ITV1 with the last touch of the game.”

To preserve NAT's start time, James Corden entered the field of play and blew the ref's whistle just as someone was about to score the winning goal...?
Joe40
22-02-2012
Royal Television Society journalism awards in progress, Sky News's Alex Crawford wins TV journalist of the year.
Looks like a great night for BBC Panorama's undercover investigation into a care home too.
(You can see the winners as they happen by typing 'RTS award' on Twitter).
RobbieSykes123
22-02-2012
I find it astonishing that all of the top 350 audiences in Scotland in 2010 were on ITV1/STV. I find that so staggering as to be implausible. Nothing at all from BBC1?

Have I misunderstood? Or is Scotland more effed than I thought?

Fudd
22-02-2012
Originally Posted by Georged123:
“Im sorry Fudd but I cant believe how you can say moving Corrie was done to support ITV and not harm the BBC.

Corrie at 8pm meant forcing DOI, an already struggling show, to a very early start and getting its lowest ever rating. A direct Corrie clash with Call The Midwife would have probabaly seen a low Corrie number so the lead-in for Wild At Heart would have been the same or possible lower than the usual DOI figure. The Beeb moving Midwife to 20:30 probably helped ITV a bit by not hurting Corrie as much but the extra Corrie viewers around at 20:30 seemed to boost Midwife anyway.”

Dancing On Ice was hurt because of the ridiculous running time; it could've started at 6.30pm and ran to 8pm and would've no doubted rated higher. Coronation Street wouldn't have rated so well as it did if it had been against Call The Midwife, but I think it would've recorded a better figure than Dancing On Ice had previously hence giving Wild At Heart a slightly stronger lead in; Wild At Heart in turn wouldn't have clashed directly with Call The Midwife and would have the jump on Upstairs Downstairs.

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“To preserve NAT's start time, James Corden entered the field of play and blew the ref's whistle just as someone was about to score the winning goal...? ”

It would've been a blessing to everyone if he had done that at half time!
Andy23
22-02-2012
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“I find it astonishing that all of the top 350 audiences in Scotland in 2010 were on ITV1/STV. I find that so staggering as to be implausible. Nothing at all from BBC1?

Have I misunderstood? Or is Scotland more effed than I thought?

”

Presumably if every episode of Corrie & Emmerdale rated highly that'd make up a good chunk of the 350.
C14E
22-02-2012
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“I find it astonishing that all of the top 350 audiences in Scotland in 2010 were on ITV1/STV. I find that so staggering as to be implausible. Nothing at all from BBC1?

Have I misunderstood? Or is Scotland more effed than I thought?

”

It'll be top 350 commercial programmes (I'm guessing the data is from an STV Sales presentation?). River City is pretty popular as far as I know. And Reporting Scotland, as dear Jackie likes to tell us, is Scotland's #1 news broadcast. Although wih Cat Cubie on board, providing outstanding weather forecasts, it should really beat The X Factor.
RobbieSykes123
22-02-2012
Originally Posted by C14E:
“It'll be top 350 commercial programmes (I'm guessing the data is from an STV Sales presentation?). River City is pretty popular as far as I know. And Reporting Scotland, as dear Jackie likes to tell us, is Scotland's #1 news broadcast. Although wih Cat Cubie on board, providing outstanding weather forecasts, it should really beat The X Factor. ”

That would make more sense...!

Wouldn't be surprised if the top 350 in Norn Iron were all on UTV though...
excel99
22-02-2012
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“I find it astonishing that all of the top 350 audiences in Scotland in 2010 were on ITV1/STV. I find that so staggering as to be implausible. Nothing at all from BBC1?

Have I misunderstood? Or is Scotland more effed than I thought?”

The figure is for Q4 2010. This is the exact quote from the presentation

"For Q4 2010, of the top 350 programmes in the Scotland region ALL were on ITV1!"

For ITV1 I interpreted to mean STV (they don't use ITV1 branding). I don't think it includes the Scottish part of Border, as Border is a separate advertising region and the info is from the ITV ad-sales site.

The sources for the ratings info are quoted as BARB and Techedge

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Wouldn't be surprised if the top 350 in Norn Iron were all on UTV though...”

It's only the top 250 for UTV
Costa over
22-02-2012
I look forward to seeing Channel 5 introduce some new original commissions into ther schedules. The new Marco Pierre White show does actually seem to be a step in the right direction, as could be the insect show actually. I feel a pilot season could work really well for them and prove that it can do quality when it wants.
RobbieSykes123
22-02-2012
Originally Posted by excel99:
“The figure is for Q4 2010. This is the exact quote from the presentation
"For Q4 2010, of the top 350 programmes in the Scotland region ALL were on ITV1!"
For ITV1 I interpreted to mean STV (they don't use ITV1 branding). I don't think it includes the Scottish part of Border, as Border is a separate advertising region and the info if from the ITV ad-sales site. The sources are quoted as BARB and Techedge


It's only the top 250 for UTV”

If its only one quarter it must be commercial tv only. Even if every single ep in q4 of Corrie, Em, TXF, IAC was included you wouldn't get to 350.
harisc
22-02-2012
How many did people watched geordie shore on mtv tuesday? Many thanks
grahamzxy
23-02-2012
Originally Posted by excel99:
“The figure is for Q4 2010. This is the exact quote from the presentation

"For Q4 2010, of the top 350 programmes in the Scotland region ALL were on ITV1!"

For ITV1 I interpreted to mean STV (they don't use ITV1 branding). I don't think it includes the Scottish part of Border, as Border is a separate advertising region and the info is from the ITV ad-sales site. The sources for the ratings info are quoted as BARB and Techedge. It's only the top 250 for UTV”

It does seem incredible to us South of deep fried Mars Bar land that STV can have such a stranglehold on the ratings. Q4 2010 would mean that shows such as......

Strictly Come Dancing 14.28m
EastEnders 12.61m
Children in Need 9.36m
Royal Variety Performance 8.90m
BBC News 9.71m
Come Fly With Me 12.47m
Doctor Who 12.11m
New Year Live 9.37m
The Royle Family 11.29m

were largely ignored in STV region for Emmerdale?
Fudd
23-02-2012
Originally Posted by grahamzxy:
“It does seem incredible to us South of deep fried Mars Bar land that STV can have such a stranglehold on the ratings. Q4 2010 would mean that shows such as......

Strictly Come Dancing 14.28m
EastEnders 12.61m
Children in Need 9.36m
Royal Variety Performance 8.90m
BBC News 9.71m
Come Fly With Me 12.47m
Doctor Who 12.11m
New Year Live 9.37m
The Royle Family 11.29m

were largely ignored in STV region for Emmerdale? ”

Maybe the Scots don't understand that everyone should tune in to BBC One on Christmas Day?
Charnham
23-02-2012
Originally Posted by grahamzxy:
“It does seem incredible to us South of deep fried Mars Bar land that STV can have such a stranglehold on the ratings. Q4 2010 would mean that shows such as......”

that is pretty messed up
RobbieSykes123
23-02-2012
Originally Posted by grahamzxy:
“It does seem incredible to us South of deep fried Mars Bar land that STV can have such a stranglehold on the ratings. Q4 2010 would mean that shows such as......

Strictly Come Dancing 14.28m
EastEnders 12.61m
Children in Need 9.36m
Royal Variety Performance 8.90m
BBC News 9.71m
Come Fly With Me 12.47m
Doctor Who 12.11m
New Year Live 9.37m
The Royle Family 11.29m

were largely ignored in STV region for Emmerdale? ”

Yes, completely implausible that these were all ignored by Scots, particularly BBC Scotland's mega rating hogmany coverage and the likes of the SCD Final or CFWM. IIRC from the regional breakdowns we used to get on Oracle/Teletext, BBC1 was far more popular north of the border than in Tyne Tees or Ulster. So its clearly codswallop unless someone can prove different.

Talking of CFWM, wasnt there supposed to be a second series of that commissioned?
derek500
23-02-2012
Sky1 have picked up the Channel 4 comedy pilot, Chickens, for a full series.

The pilot had great production values, but IMO (and no doubt C4's) wasn't very funny.
The Full Sparky
23-02-2012
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“I find it astonishing that all of the top 350 audiences in Scotland in 2010 were on ITV1/STV. I find that so staggering as to be implausible. Nothing at all from BBC1?

Have I misunderstood? Or is Scotland more effed than I thought?

”

Perhaps what is meant is that the top 350 audiences on STV were also on ITV1?
ftv
23-02-2012
US Network News Ratings
Week of February 13:

For the first time since 2006 CBS has overtaken ABC in the 25-54 year-old viewers demographic with 2.136 million viewers to 2.107 m. But NBC remains the undisputed market leader.

Average nightly viewers overall:

1. NBC Nightly News w/Brian Williams 9.408 m
2. ABC World News w/Diane Sawyer 7.999 m
3. CBS Evening News w/Scott Pelley 6.828m

c Neilsen
grahamzxy
23-02-2012
Originally Posted by The Full Sparky:
“Perhaps what is meant is that the top 350 audiences on STV were also on ITV1?”

I checked the quote on the website and they were claiming #top 350 shows, I do understand there may be a lot of loyalty to homegrown programmes. We need a Scottish FM to explain the great BBC1 v STV divide to us.
grahamzxy
23-02-2012
#WaterlooRoad returns with an average of 4.9m viewers - over twice the audience of any other channel between 8 and 9pm #BBC1

Last night's #Masterchef peaked at 5.4m, the highest rating show at 9pm #BBC1

Last night's Sun, Sex and Suspicious Parents averaged 1.26m at 9pm on #BBC3

https://twitter.com/#!/Sam_Hodges

Seems Marseille v Inter collapsed, Sam suggesting it was <2.5m between 8-9pm.

Big Body Squad which began at 8pm on CH5, was viewed by 1.5m (6.9%)

http://www.attentional.com/screenwatch/

#ITV soap took the top rating spot again last night - Emmerdale drew 7m viewers (excl +1) with a peak of 8m

https://twitter.com/#!/Mike_Large
dave01
23-02-2012
A decent start for Waterloo Road. About 400k above the overnights level that the last run launched at in the Autumn. I think it's for the best that it has returned to 8pm now, as it provides better structure to the schedule that way. Also with this being the final run before the move to Scotland it needs to be rating as strong as possible with no soap clashes damaging it.
Salv*
23-02-2012
Sun Sex and Suspicious Parents

Is that the highest rating ever?

I am sure it started this series with only around 500k.
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