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The Ratings Thread (Part 32)
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jonnyblack
04-03-2012
Originally Posted by Score:
“I hope GTD does well tonight, it's a really good show. I remember when it was first announced as it was around the same time as BBC1 announced So You Think You Can Dance and everyone slagged off Sky1 for doing what was called a cheap copycat version of SYTYCD. It was pretty clear as soon as the two shows premiered (on the very same weekend) that GTD is a far superior show in every way. Better judges, better production, better host and much more fun, and tonight's live final in front of a 6,000 strong audience at the Olympia has really summed it all up. It's a pity it's been down a bit this year as it's been the best series yet. As you've said though, Secret Street Crew has done really well afterwards, and I'm sure both will be back next year. Ashley Banjo seems pretty popular, starring in both shows - I can see more TV work coming his way.”

Davina all but confirmed they will both be back next year during the show tonight. You can already apply to be on both shows next year.
Dancc
04-03-2012
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Agreed. It's probably been since that high since Sky Sports News was taken off Freeview in mid 2010. Thanks for the figures. ”

Sky were foolish not to simulcast Soccer Saturday at least on Pick TV, even for just the 3pm-5pm segment. It would be no loss to them in terms of subscribers, indeed if anything it could serve as a great 'shop window' for what Sky Sports is all about, but what they have lost since that time is viewers with Final Score picking up considerably and establishing itself as a very firm favourite. The consensus seems to be that whilst Soccer Saturday is by far the best at this 'scores and banter' genre, Garth Crooks and co are dire, but if the better alternative isn't available, sod giving Murdoch our money we'll stick with the free version thanks!
grahamzxy
04-03-2012
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“Talking of which what were the figures for Sky Sports last week compared to the BBC for the Carling Cup Final?”

Quote:
“Sunday 26th February Overnights
BBC One
15:00- Carling Cup Final: 5.87m (30.62%)
* peak: 10.45m (41.71%) at 18:40
* match average: 7.1m

Sky Sports 1
15:00- Carling Cup Final: 1.43m (7.6%)
* peak: 1.804m”

So BBC1 won by 4.1:1 last week, naturally we expect F1 to be a higher SKY rating for shared races. I can see SKY F1 channel rating 2m for some F1 races, but can they match FA Premier League fixtures of 2.5m+? Some races will be in Summer when viewing figures traditionally dip.
Brekkie
04-03-2012
Originally Posted by ronant:
“Some interesting Final Score ratings from yesterday:
BBC1 4.20-5.15 2.1m
Red Button 600k
BBC HD 24k

Red Button massively outrating BBCHD, interesting. They should just put the whole show on one of the main channels IMO, big, big red button ratings.”

Although sport is increasingly bare now on Saturday afternoons at the BBC it'll be interesting to see what happens when the BBC have an event they can't air on BBC1/2 but would usually put on the red button once they go down to one stream. On Freeview it depended on the sport whether it got the 301 slot or not - but if Score does continue next season they can't really have a situation where it's dropped everytime they need the slot.

Of course though this is the stupid BBC hiding behind "platform neutrality" - which they haven't cared about much for a decade since launching BBCi and their way of answering complaints about the Freeview interactive service being scaled back is now to scale back the service on cable and satellite too.

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Sky were foolish not to simulcast Soccer Saturday at least on Pick TV, even for just the 3pm-5pm segment. It would be no loss to them in terms of subscribers, indeed if anything it could serve as a great 'shop window' for what Sky Sports is all about, but what they have lost since that time is viewers with Final Score picking up considerably and establishing itself as a very firm favourite. The consensus seems to be that whilst Soccer Saturday is by far the best at this 'scores and banter' genre, Garth Crooks and co are dire, but if the better alternative isn't available, sod giving Murdoch our money we'll stick with the free version thanks!”

It would be interesting to see whether subscriptions to Sky Sports has increased since SSN was axed from Freeview as that was pretty much a 24/7 promo channel for Sky Sports.

Originally Posted by grahamzxy:
“So BBC1 won by 4.1:1 last week, naturally we expect F1 to be a higher SKY rating for shared races. I can see SKY F1 channel rating 2m for some F1 races, but can they match FA Premier League fixtures of 2.5m+? Some races will be in Summer when viewing figures traditionally dip.”

One problem Sky Sports F1 might have is will it get listed in newspapers and TV mags considering it's main event basically happens once a fortnight and the rest is alot of filler which is little different to say Motors TV. Eurosport 2 and the extra ESPN channels don't generally feature in most TV guides, so I doubt Sky Sports F1 (sorry, Sky Sports F1 TM HD) will either.
Dancc
04-03-2012
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“It would be interesting to see whether subscriptions to Sky Sports has increased since SSN was axed from Freeview as that was pretty much a 24/7 promo channel for Sky Sports.”

At least Sky Sports News generally do show highlights from games. Soccer Saturday doesn't even do that except a few glimpses of the teams leaving the pitch at both half term and full time, which makes it even more baffling to me that Sky now deem it a pay only product. What it does do however is give greater prominence to any game which is currently being broadcast on Sky Sports, so obviously it would hammer home to anyone with just Freeview that they are missing out on the action if it's a good game.
Dancc
04-03-2012
Chris Terrill's next project will be a historical documentary on the Special Forces. Royal Marines: Mission Afghanistan draws to a close on Monday.

http://www.bfbs.com/news/afghanistan...nes-55345.html

Very underrated broadcaster, can't wait to see more from him.
Glenn A
04-03-2012
Originally Posted by grahamzxy:
“30 years ago we had 3 channels, we were a captive TV audience on a Saturday night and ratings were very high. Fast forward to 2012 and only a few formats can grab a large audience. In this day and age I would argue that 5-6m is good, 7-8m is very good, 9-10m is excellent and 11m+ is a rare occurrence.”

Anything less than 10 million on a Saturday night in the three channel world was classed as a disaster, although BBC 2 was exempt from this as its offerings were very much minority. When Bruce Forsyth transferred to ITV in 1978, and his variety show attracted just under 10 million viewers, it was classed as a huge flop and he was badly hurt by it. Nowadays a big soap story gets 9 million and it's a massive hit.
Joe40
04-03-2012
The QPR documentary on BBC2 (showing what happens when a billionaire tries to run a football team) is fascinating (and nothing to do with football), but appalingly scheduled at 11.15pm on a Sunday night. I know they wanted the MOTD2 audience, but to finish at nearly 1am?
Should do well on iplayer.
Fudd
05-03-2012
A respectable if uninspiring night all round for Saturday - Let's Dance and Casualty arguably should be doing better but the same most certainly can be said about Jonathan Ross, and TV Burp isn't finding much in way of momentum.
Charnham
05-03-2012
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“A respectable if uninspiring night all round for Saturday - Let's Dance and Casualty arguably should be doing better but the same most certainly can be said about Jonathan Ross, and TV Burp isn't finding much in way of momentum.”

is the final series, it wont find any now.

I just cant get excited by the ratings at the moment.
Fudd
05-03-2012
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“is the final series, it wont find any now.

I just cant get excited by the ratings at the moment.”

It probably won't get interesting until the end of the month, when we'll have The Voice v Britain's Got Talent to get interested in. Especially if ITV1 decide to use Britain's Got Talent as a spoiler.
dave01
05-03-2012
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“I don't follow Being Human a lot, but that seems a lot down on last year? (I know Skins is, but that's been on decline for a while if I recall)”

Yup, it's down quite a bit in the overnights this series. It has lost all but one of the main cast members from the last series though. I think losing George, Mitchell and Nina has been quite a dramatic change for Being Human, so I can see why some viewers may have drifted off. Personally I have warmed to the new characters now but at first I didn't like them.
Code:
Being Human Overnight ratings (series 3 & 4 including BBC HD simulcast)

Series 1           Series 2      Series 3         Series 4
898k (3.9%)	1.41m (5.4%)	1.54m (5.6%)	1.12m (4.3%)
737k (3.1%)	1.1m (4.1%)	1.43m (5.4%)	815k (3.1%)
668k (2.8%)	1.02m (3.6%)	1.26m (4.8%)	659k (2.4%)
656k (3%)	915k (3.4%)	1.26m (4.7%)	680k (2.6%)
578k (2.5%)	967k (3.6%)	1.37m (5%)	
822k (3.5%)	700k (2.7%)	977k (3.6%)	
                818k (3%) 	906k (3.3%)	
                1.0m (3.9%)	1.05m (3.5%)
AlexiR
05-03-2012
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Bad start for Awake. Never listen to the hype from the critics, the show was too complicated and weird to get a big audience. It'll be axed in a few episodes time.”

I doubt it. As underwhelming as that number is that's NBC's best Thursday 10PM performance of the season and the 2.0 it was adjusted up to in the finals will have it end the week tied as NBC's fifth best rated show – behind The Voice, The Office, Smash and Celebrity Apprentice (assuming that doesn't completely tank this week) and level with Biggest Loser. At its current level not only is NBC not pulling it they're renewing it for season two.

Of course the real test is how it does in the weeks to come (barring a miracle it'll drop) but as long as it holds it head above a 1 then NBC will let it finish its run. And even if it drops below a 1 I'd be surprised if they pull it. Partly because critics love it and partly because they don't really have anything to replace it with at this point. At this point if its pulling a mid-high 1 come the end of the season and the critics still love it I wouldn't be amazed to see NBC renew it for season two (although they shouldn't at that level).
AlexiR
05-03-2012
Originally Posted by dave01:
“Yup, it's down quite a bit in the overnights this series. It has lost all but one of the main cast members from the last series though. I think losing George, Mitchell and Nina has been quite a dramatic change for Being Human, so I can see why some viewers may have drifted off. Personally I have warmed to the new characters now but at first I didn't like them.”

Its a shame its dropped off I've really been enjoying it this year. If I'm being brutally honest I've probably been enjoying it a lot more than series 3...
ftv
05-03-2012
BBC working on a project which would reunite David Jason and Nick Lyndhurst in a sitcom - Daily Express
Charnham
05-03-2012
Originally Posted by ftv:
“BBC working on a project which would reunite David Jason and Nick Lyndhurst in a sitcom - Daily Express”

this thread should get a consultancy fee.
derek500
05-03-2012
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“It would be interesting to see whether subscriptions to Sky Sports has increased since SSN was axed from Freeview as that was pretty much a 24/7 promo channel for Sky Sports.”

I'm pretty certain SSN is in the Entertainment Extra pack and/or Sky Sports 1& 2 pack.

As for figures, on Saturday at 4.50pm SSN had 1.464m and BBC One had 2.430m.

Sky must be well pleased with those.
ftv
05-03-2012
I get SSN as part of my Sky Sports package. I also get one of the horse racing channels and various other sports channels like Eurosport and the new F1 channel. SSN actually has a bigger reach and audience share than Sky News !
derek500
05-03-2012
Originally Posted by jonnyblack:
“Davina all but confirmed they will both be back next year during the show tonight. You can already apply to be on both shows next year.”

The Got To Dance final averaged 934k for the performance and 1.116m for the results.

Figures don't include 3d, so you can add a few more!!
Dancc
05-03-2012
Originally Posted by derek500:
“The Got To Dance final averaged 934k for the performance and 1.116m for the results.

Figures don't include 3d, so you can add a few more!!”

Decent figures but the lowest rated to date. Worth noting it was also the longest so presumably there was more padding. One for the Sky+ eh, Derek?

2012
Performances (6pm-7.50pm): 934k (share n/a)
Results (7.50pm-8.30pm): 1.12m (share n/a)


2011
Performances (6pm-7.20pm): 1.06m (4.5%)
Results (7.20pm-8pm): 1.19m (4.4%)

2010
Performances + Results (6pm-7.30pm): 1.12m (4.7%)
Score
05-03-2012
There were more acts in the final this year (10 instead of 8) so there really wasn't much padding. Very good rating given the length.
derek500
05-03-2012
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Decent figures but the lowest rated to date. Worth noting it was also the longest so presumably there was more padding. One for the Sky+ eh, Derek? ”

Of course!! We played catchup with the 3d version.

There was a lot of chase playing going on last night, and/or live viewers were turning off or leaving the room during ad breaks.

It dipped to 553k during one break.
Dancc
05-03-2012
Originally Posted by Score:
“There were more acts in the final this year (10 instead of 8) so there really wasn't much padding. Very good rating given the length.”

An extra half hour to squeeze in 2 more acts? It's not stealing ideas from Dancing on Ice is it?
derek500
05-03-2012
Originally Posted by Score:
“There were more acts in the final this year (10 instead of 8) so there really wasn't much padding. Very good rating given the length.”

Very true. I only half watch these shows (my wife's the fan), but out of all the talent shows across all networks, Got To Dance is by far the most watchable, with the highest production standards and no padding or silliness.
cylon6
05-03-2012
And in a surprise to nobody, The Voice is confirmed as starting on March 24th.
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