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Old 05-03-2012, 10:21
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Very true. I only half watch these shows (my wife's the fan), but out of all the talent shows across all networks, Got To Dance is by far the most watchable, with the highest production standards and no padding or silliness.
Shock you praising a Sky show

Surely 'Must be the Music' wins that title. I'm still waiting for the second series

no padding or silliness.
Was I dreaming last night when I saw Diversity's:sleep: latest 'tribute' to Michael Jackson?
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Old 05-03-2012, 10:23
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Shock you praising a Sky show

Surely 'Must be the Music' wins that title. I'm still waiting for the second series
Yes that as well. Shame it never came back.

Wonder if The Voice will suffer from being 'serious' without the usual joke acts?
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Old 05-03-2012, 10:24
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Homeland last week: 2.36m inc. +1
Homeland this week: 2.36m inc. +1

Yep, I think it's safe to say they like it.

Excellent ratings.
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Old 05-03-2012, 10:25
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Looks like DOI failed to clear 7m for the main show and was sub 6m for the results - it got 7.2 and 6.0 including repeat showings on the ITV1+1 channel.

WAH only had 6.2m including second showing.

Two dying shows.
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Old 05-03-2012, 10:25
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An extra half hour to squeeze in 2 more acts? It's not stealing ideas from Dancing on Ice is it?


In fairness the final was slightly rushed last year from what I remember. It was the same length as the last two BGT finals with the same number of acts, and has more content than BGT as the top 3 acts perform again (there's a vote freeze where the top 3 make it through and the rest are eliminated). It wasn't padded last night at all.

Shock you praising a Sky show

Surely 'Must be the Music' wins that title. I'm still waiting for the second series
Normally I'd agree but Derek has a point with this one. GTD is very good. Must Be The Music was terrible though, I'll agree there.
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Old 05-03-2012, 10:28
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And in a surprise to nobody, The Voice is confirmed as starting on March 24th.
The Sun today confirms BGT is set to return on the same night, and will overlap each week to ensure TV is snuffed out in the ratings.

Sensible move by ITV. I wish them every success.
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Old 05-03-2012, 10:30
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All three major commercial channels boosted their share yesterday compared to last Sunday, between them commanding more than 2 extra share points:

ITV1: 14.8% (14.3%)
Ch4: 6.4% (5.9%)
Ch5: 4.7% (3.6%)

last week in brackets
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Old 05-03-2012, 10:30
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Wonder if The Voice will suffer from being 'serious' without the usual joke acts?
I know that X-Factor likes bland people with good voices, but you can have a good voice and be an interesting person.

Im pretty sure that most truly talented musicians, are 1,000 times more interesting than any reality TV show contestant.

I think where the BBC is going wrong with The Voice, is that it is not focusing on finding a complete artist, but I guess that is kinda what Fame Academy was meant to be about, and that flopped.

Listen to a show like Radcliffe and Maconie on 6 Music, and whilst it may not have the latest X-Factor runner up, talking about being the latest X-Factor runner up, it has artists with music in their soul, artists who have spent years singing at festivals, years becoming the true artists they are, and are only to happy to talk about what inspires their musical. This is something you dont see on reality TV shows, and I dont think The Voice will have it either.

Heck the before mentioned Dermot O Leary Radio 2 show, does similar, if with a more mainstream type of artist.
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Old 05-03-2012, 10:47
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Just 7.02m and 5.77m for DOI.

A show that is no longer in the big league. 6.08m for WAH, a sure that will no doubt soon be feeling the vet's needle in the back of its neck...

Viewing does look generally down, with UD feeling the squeeze with 5.1m. Perhaps 2012 will be the year viewers tire of period drama?
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Old 05-03-2012, 10:48
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DOI 7.02 +222K
DOI Results 5.7 +206k
WAH 6.08

Warhorse 1.35 +230k

Upstairs Downstairs 5.01
Countryfile 6.07
Antiques 5.68

Top Gear 4.06
Orbit 3.06

Da Vinci Code 1.51
Police Interceptors 725k
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Old 05-03-2012, 10:48
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BBC One
19:00 Countryfile: 6.07m (23.4%)
20:00 Antiques Roadshow: 5.68m (20.3%)
21:00 Upstairs, Downstairs: 5.01m (19.2%)

BBC Two
20:00 Top Gear: 4.06m (14.5%) exc. HD
21:00 New Series: Orbit: Earth's Extraordinary Journey: 3.06m (11.7%)

ITV1
18:35 Dancing on Ice: 7.02m (27%); +1: (222k/0.8%)
20:30 Wild at Heart: 6.08m (22.4%)
21:30 Dancing on Ice - The Skate Off: 5.77m (22.4%); +1: (206k/1.3%)

Channel 4
18:55 4thought.tv / Home of the Future: 528k inc. +1
20:00 War Horse: The Real Story: 1.35m (4.8%); +1: (230k/0.9%)
21:00 Homeland: 2.05m (7.8%); +1: (315k/1.7%)
22:00 Movie Premiere: Inglorious Basterds: 1.34m inc. +1

Channel 5
18:10 The Da Vinci Code: 1.51m (5.9%)
21:00 Ultimate Police Interceptors: 725k (2.8%)

BBC Three
21:00 Being Human: 844k (3.2%) inc. HD

E4 (inc. +1)
22:00 Desperate Housewives: 734k

Sky1
18:00 Got to Dance Live Final: 934k (3.9%)
19:50 Got to Dance Live Results: 1.12m (4%)

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ITV1: 22.2% (+1: 0.8%)
BBC One: 19.8%
BBC Two: 11.8%
Channel 4: 5.3% (+1: 0.7%)
Channel 5: 4.5%.

Sources: Digital Spy, C4 Sales.
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Old 05-03-2012, 10:50
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Wonder if The Voice will suffer from being 'serious' without the usual joke acts?
The Voice isn't 'serious' though. The judges sit in big spinning red chairs how serious do people really think this show can be? Certainly it weeds out the joke acts that have become the bread and butter of The X Factor but I think people are perhaps spinning the whole looking for someone that can actually sing a little too hard. The Voice is still very much an entertainment show which is why its found so much success elsewhere.

The BBC desperately needs to start properly trailing this show so that the wider audience can get a better grip on what it actually is.
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Old 05-03-2012, 10:52
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Brilliant BBC2 figures for Orbit, which explains the UD drop.

Not sure that was a smart bit of BBC scheduling....
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Old 05-03-2012, 10:52
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I have never liked the look of those chairs, and them spinning around does them no favours. Obviously the judges wearing a blind fold would be silly, but the chairs just dont look good to me.
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Old 05-03-2012, 10:57
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Huge drop for Upstairs. I can see it being axed.
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Old 05-03-2012, 10:58
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Really glad to see Homeland keeping its head above water.

And incredibly happy to see Being Human up. Isn't that an increase of about 200k vs. last week? That can't be bad.

Viewing does look generally down, with UD feeling the squeeze with 5.1m. Perhaps 2012 will be the year viewers tire of period drama?
Wasn't a period drama just getting 11 million viewers? Perhaps this is more period exhaustion?
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Old 05-03-2012, 11:00
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The Sun today confirms BGT is set to return on the same night, and will overlap each week to ensure TV is snuffed out in the ratings.

Sensible move by ITV. I wish them every success.
Indeed:

An angry Beeb source said last night: "This is typical of ITV, parking their tanks on our lawn just as we launch a major new format.

"They are smarting because they didn't get the show although they bid £10million more than us.

The ITV source said: "We haven't declared our launch date but, if I was a betting man, I'd go for March 24.

"The BBC know we always launch BGT around this time. If anyone is parking tanks on a lawn, it's them on ours!" "
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...The-Voice.html

So ITV think that March 24th is a slot that is reserved for ITV, regardless? Maybe it really is "first come, first served".
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Old 05-03-2012, 11:02
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I have never liked the look of those chairs, and them spinning around does them no favours. Obviously the judges wearing a blind fold would be silly, but the chairs just dont look good to me.
I don't disagree on the spinning chairs. I can list off a long list of a reasons why they shouldn't work but I think despite all that they kind of do. There's something brilliantly mad about the whole thing within the context of the show and it stops everyone involved from taking the whole thing too seriously. And the blind audition concept does make for some really good telly.

I fear I've become a cheerleader for The Voice in this thread though. I do really like the format though.
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Old 05-03-2012, 11:12
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On the subject of The Voice/Talent clash I can't help but wonder if it might be in ITV's best interest to delay for at least a week for any number of reasons. If nothing else they can hope that the BBC does what it usually does with these big formats and completely self destructs resulting in the audience not wanting to stick around for week two.
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Old 05-03-2012, 11:13
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Solid enough for BBC One's lineup but they probably didn't expect Countryfile to be their strongest link at this point. I don't think we can conclude that viewers are tiring of period drama just because the BBC's latest attempt isn't catching on much. I've had it on good authority from multiple sources that UD simply isn't very good and doesn't even come close to Downton Abbey's quality. That's a more likely reason for the underwhelming numbers I would suggest.

Channel 4 meanwhile had plenty to be pleased about last night. Homeland did not suffer from the usual drop these US dramas experience for episode 3, it must be surpassing even C4's own expectations by now. Warhorse rated well in the 8pm hour after a bit of a disastrous start to the night at 7pm. Inglorious should have done better, great film. But for the late slot it did respectably enough.

The Da Vinci Code rated well once again for Channel 5, but the scheduling of an Ultimate Police Interceptors rerun in the key 9pm timeslot was a predictably disastrous decision. It seems almost every Sunday now they will schedule a random factual repeat at either 8pm or 9pm that ends up dragging down their night, when will they learn that this is not a good strategy?

BBC Two were well above average for much of the evening. Orbit: Earth's Extraordinary Journey rated extremely well after another solid outing for Top Gear.
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Old 05-03-2012, 11:17
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^^ I actually prefer Upstairs to Downton. Its the comparisons that have killed it.

The only way I can see the BBC bringing it back for a 3rd series though is if they are desperate to keep Heidi Thomas sweet.
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Old 05-03-2012, 11:26
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An angry Beeb source said last night: "This is typical of ITV, parking their tanks on our lawn just as we launch a major new format.
hahahahahahaha you really couldnt make it up (unless you are in the BBC press office of course!)

Need we go back to the night ITV launched and the BBC killed off Grace Archer on 22 September 1955! Remember your history BBC spinmeisters!
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Old 05-03-2012, 11:34
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"The BBC know we always launch BGT around this time. If anyone is parking tanks on a lawn, it's them on ours!" "
Just when you think ITV can't get any more pathetic. Trying to blame the BBC, when everybody knows BGT usually launches in mid-April, not March.
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Old 05-03-2012, 11:35
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Britain's Got Talent and The Voice launching on the same night and possibly overlapping for a time is bad news for viewers, as effectively it means less choice as well as inconveniencing their fans, and ultimately it's bad news for both broadcasters, as these shows will not achieve their full potential in those circumstances. Therefore ITV could suffer the most as they have commercial pressures to consider.

Now don't get me wrong a bit of healthy competition every now and again is fine but when they take it to this kind of extreme you start to lose faith in the people running these channels if it's more important to them who wins rather than maximising the audience for their biggest shows. The truth is, they will both be losers!
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Old 05-03-2012, 11:37
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Well the BBC have Call The Midwife and filming begins for the 2nd series in July. If by any chance they get it completed by the time Downton Abbey is back I wouldn't be surprised to see the BBC pitch CTM against DA on purpose as revenge not only for the way ITV luvvies have killed Upstairs Downstairs but also for the way they are now going after The Voice.
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