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An example from today's Daily Express of how C5 spins its audience figures:
''A total of 9.1 million tuned in to watch Manchester United's clash with Athletic Bilbao. The audience peaked at 5.3 million and averaged 4.3 million'' But surely the average includes the peak ? |
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Friday 9th March 2012
Sky1 21:00 - Stella: 495k * peak: 567k Sky Sports F1 20:00 - The F1 Show: 173k * peak: 207k Source: John Williams on Twitter. |
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Friday 9th March 2012
Sky1 21:00 - Stella: 495k * peak: 567k Sky Sports F1 20:00 - The F1 Show: 173k * peak: 207k Source: John Williams on Twitter. |
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BBC1
2000 EastEnders 7.5m/31.8% 2030 Room 101 3.0m/12.2 % 2100 New Tricks 3.9m/16.7% 2200 BBC News at Ten 3.6m/18.4% 2235 The Graham Norton Show 3.2m/21.8% ITV1 (inc +1 and HD) 1900 Emmerdale 7.2m/34.5% 1930 Coronation Street 8.9m/39.8% 2000 Safari Vet School 3.0m/12.7% 2030 Coronation Street 8.8m/36.4% 2100 Benidorm 6.5m/28.1% 2200 ITV News at Ten & Weather 2.3m/12.2% BBC2 2100 Melvyn Bragg on Class and Culture 1.3m/5.5% 2200 QI 1.8m/9.3% C4 1935 Come Dine with Me 1.1m/4.7% 2030 New Girl 1.0m/4.2% 2100 The Bank Job 1.2m/5.4pc 2200 The Secret Policeman's Ball 2012 1.2m/8.1 % C5 2000 Eddie Stobart: Trucks and Trailers 1.5m/6.2% 2100 The Mentalist 1.5m/6.2% 2200 Castle 0.9m/5.4% (BARB) |
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BBC1
2000 EastEnders 7.5m/31.8% 2030 Room 101 3.0m/12.2 % 2100 New Tricks 3.9m/16.7% 2200 BBC News at Ten 3.6m/18.4% 2235 The Graham Norton Show 3.2m/21.8% updating |
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Bit of a drop over the series for Stella, but I believe it timeshifts well... Don't know what the F1 show rating show.. Doesn't appear to have been a massive night for sky one...
And of course it's a new channel, so the 'sports' audience is now fragmented over six channels instead of five. |
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Another point on the F1 ratings. How often is the BARB panel updated to reflect the numbers taking SS1 and 2 and/or the HD sub?
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That's the way it goes with multichannels. I was watching the World Golf Championship on Sky Sports 2, Sky plussing Stella and will have a look at the F1 show on a repeat showing.
And of course it's a new channel, so the 'sports' audience is now fragmented over six channels instead of five. |
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Em 7.1m
EE 8.0m CS 8.7 & 9.0m Beni 6.09m Rm101 2.95m (John Prescott effect?) |
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Yes it does seem that the multichannel shows can timeshift to become double the overnight,
With so much choice we timeshift everything and watch recordings without the ads, whilst new stuff is recording. |
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The average is for the whole slot, the peak is the highest audience over a certain period (normally five minutes), the 9.1m would be the reach, the number of people who watched at least three consecutive minutes.
I suspect the Daily Express probably added in people who saw a report on the BBC News at Ten or something. Either way it's pretty desperate. |
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Lord Sugar has tweeted to confirm that The Apprentice returns on Wednesday 21st at 9pm.
No Tuesday/Wednesday opening then. edit: actually that's probably old news, it's only Wednesday week isn't it... |
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Yes, the schedules confirmed it on Wednesday. I doubt you'll be watching though Robbie - BBC1 shouldn't be buying hit international entertainment formats after all.
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Yes, the schedules confirmed it on Wednesday. I doubt you'll be watching though Robbie - BBC1 shouldn't be buying hit international entertainment formats after all.
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Any news on Gardeners' World?
Edit! Just found them myself. 2.04million. ken |
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I doubt The Apprentice costs BBC £20 million though.
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I doubt The Apprentice costs BBC £20 million though.
Starting to agree with Robbie that it's very difficult for the BBC to justify the high purchase price of The Voice in these austere times, even if it becomes as big a hit as Strictly or X Factor or Britain's Got Talent. |
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I doubt The Apprentice costs BBC £20 million though.
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the high purchase price .
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Basically commercial TV takes the easy route every time, the BBC should be doing the tough stuff.
That does not mean PSB cannot be popular, but easy ratings from exploitative so-called "singing" competitions does not look like something the BBC should be doing. What would be tough of a saturday evening would be an actual musical, with singing and dancing of the highest standard. It could be done in a studio, no need for such a thing to be more expensive than "The Voice" With The Voice the BBC are attempting to buy ratings, and it's not even cheap. Part of the reason Cohen and the BBC have gone for The Voice surely is the hugely sad fact that since the end of House Party in the late nineties the BBC have just had one clear returnable entertainment hit in Strictly Come Dancing. Thats a record so poor that I would imagine the thinking is almost forced to consider something outside the box. As for the amount, as I understand it was 25 million, a huge amount agreed, though ITV did bid 30 million (presumably just to keep it away from the BBC). Personally i would rather have this than some of the many instantly forgettable formats the Beeb has attempted to dress up in the last decade. |
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And even if it did, the BBC's got their money's worth from the Apprentice, which, as it started on BBC2, was never bought in to be a massive can't-fail reputation-on-the-line ratings hit the way The Voice appears to have been.
Starting to agree with Robbie that it's very difficult for the BBC to justify the high purchase price of The Voice in these austere times, even if it becomes as big a hit as Strictly or X Factor or Britain's Got Talent. However I dont get the austerity bit, the Beeb is still getting a guaranteed huge income which presumably has to be spent and if times are bad surely we need to be entertained all the more by stuff that appears on the screen. Saturday nights deserve more than endless lottery formats, endlessly grim Casualty, extremely poor soundalike formats and unbelievably ridiculous stuff like Dont Scare The Hare imo. Thats what we have had for what seems like forever. |
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Your source for that? Because that figure that has been picked up in the papers comes from a Media Guardian journo who later admitted on Radio 5 live, that it was his own general estimate
![]() Maybe the BBC should be a bit more upfront with how much their TV shows cost seeing as how it's our licence fee they're spending and we own them! |
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Just a snippet I read in The Mirror which Iv missed and presumably has been mentioned here or in other threads, Cheryl Cole is apparently going to have her own chat show on the BBC-or at least negotiations are well on the way.
I did read somewhere else the BBC is looking at another chat show fronted by a puppet! |
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I think it does put alot of pressure on The Voice to succeed, if it doesnt the £25 million tag is going to get heavier and heavier.
However I dont get the austerity bit, the Beeb is still getting a guaranteed huge income which presumably has to be spent and if times are bad surely we need to be entertained all the more by stuff that appears on the screen. Saturday nights deserve more than endless lottery formats, endlessly grim Casualty, extremely poor soundalike formats and unbelievably ridiculous stuff like Dont Scare The Hare imo. Thats what we have had for what seems like forever. |
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Just a snippet I read in The Mirror which Iv missed and presumably has been mentioned here or in other threads, Cheryl Cole is apparently going to have her own chat show on the BBC-or at least negotiations are well on the way.
I did read somewhere else the BBC is looking at another chat show fronted by a puppet! )The BBC: Throwing money away they don't have just to rub ITV's nose in it. |
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Exactly - and you don't get much change out of £20m for Casualty (indeed you don't get any - BBC Trust), The BBC didn't get SYTYCD for free either.
£20m divided by 48 episodes = 417k per episode. £0 for buying the rights for it. Now, The Voice on the other hand: £20m for buying the rights for it. Then you've got to add on the production costs, which will be a lot more than 417k per episode will take you up to nearly £30m. |
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