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Old 19-02-2012, 04:15
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I still can't get my head around it. To not sing is one thing, but to not attend your own goddaughter's funeral. WTF! What do you think? Is there more to this story than just a bad foot?

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Old 19-02-2012, 04:58
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I think it destroyed her. It took it out of Miss Cissy too, she was crushed there, the walkers had to hold her arms to walk her out at the end, and she was hysterical, she left once during the service too. I dont think Aretha could fathom it, its the day they all wished would never come but unfortunately did
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Old 19-02-2012, 07:35
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Shes ill and just getting over major surgery..give her a break
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Old 19-02-2012, 07:49
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If she's ill then she's ill.

She can show her R E S P E C T from wherever she is.
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Old 19-02-2012, 09:18
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She can show her R E S P E C T from wherever she is.
Quite right. Let us also remember that Aretha Franklin has conducted her life in a much better, more respectful fashion than the late Houston.

It is sickening to see the usual suspects crawl out of the woodwork, eulogizing Houston like a goddess, when the truth is she was a decent enough singer with all the right contacts, who achieved mega success and then basically lost her stardom, talent and 100 million dollars because she couldn't stop her drug habits.

I find it hard to respect someone like that.
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Old 19-02-2012, 09:50
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Quite right. Let us also remember that Aretha Franklin has conducted her life in a much better, more respectful fashion than the late Houston.

It is sickening to see the usual suspects crawl out of the woodwork, eulogizing Houston like a goddess, when the truth is she was a decent enough singer with all the right contacts, who achieved mega success and then basically lost her stardom, talent and 100 million dollars because she couldn't stop her drug habits.

I find it hard to respect someone like that.
I heard Elton John was attending - did he?
What a vile person, he's always up for a funeral.
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Old 19-02-2012, 10:17
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I heard Elton John was attending - did he?
What a vile person, he's always up for a funeral.
Are you serious? Quite a lot of musicians go to funerals, it's nothing strange.
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Old 19-02-2012, 10:22
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Quite right. Let us also remember that Aretha Franklin has conducted her life in a much better, more respectful fashion than the late Houston.

It is sickening to see the usual suspects crawl out of the woodwork, eulogizing Houston like a goddess, when the truth is she was a decent enough singer with all the right contacts, who achieved mega success and then basically lost her stardom, talent and 100 million dollars because she couldn't stop her drug habits.

I find it hard to respect someone like that.
I wasn't into her music, but I dare say I'll be hearing a lot of it now. Doesn't mean I'll be into her music now, in fact some of her songs in my honest opinion suck, but that does not mean I am not saddended by her passing. The funeral was very emotional and well sorted.

I'm sure Aretha Franklin would have been there if she could have. Bear in mind she had surgery AND she would have been knocked over by the fact that the girl she was a Godmother to and helped to raise, was supposed to live on after her but the opposite happened. Must have been a massive shock.
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Old 19-02-2012, 10:23
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I find it strange that the family seemed to want to turn it into a tv spectacular with all the stars there singing, but the fans that put her where she was were not alowed anywhere near the church.

I wonder if she would have really wanted that for her own funeral.
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Old 19-02-2012, 10:25
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I am sure Aretha had her reasons...she may have found it too difficult to attend...she will have no doubt have remembered Whitney in here own way.
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Old 19-02-2012, 10:25
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Are you serious? Quite a lot of musicians go to funerals, it's nothing strange.
Yes, quite serious.
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Old 19-02-2012, 10:27
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I find it strange that the family seemed to want to turn it into a tv spectacular with all the stars there singing, but the fans that put her where she was were not alowed anywhere near the church.

I wonder if she would have really wanted that for her own funeral.
No, the singers who sang knew her well personally and professionally. The fans were allowed near the church, they were 2 blocks away. The route from the funeral home to the church was blocked off. also, the funeral was on screens for them to see, in the said 2 blocks away. It wasnt a tv spectacular at all, black baptist homegoing ceremonies are always like that.
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Old 19-02-2012, 10:27
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Hardly a spectular, there was only one camera in the church...
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Old 19-02-2012, 10:34
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I find it strange that the family seemed to want to turn it into a tv spectacular with all the stars there singing, but the fans that put her where she was were not alowed anywhere near the church.

I wonder if she would have really wanted that for her own funeral.
Those stars were here friends and it was nothing like a tv spectacular. Her family allowed one camera and did so because of her fans. Her service was par for the course for a Black Baptist's funeral.
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Old 19-02-2012, 10:49
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Yes, quite serious.
How? Elton can be quite emotional at times and funerals are emotional. Nothing wrong with him going is there?
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Old 19-02-2012, 10:52
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No, the singers who sang knew her well personally and professionally. The fans were allowed near the church, they were 2 blocks away. The route from the funeral home to the church was blocked off. also, the funeral was on screens for them to see, in the said 2 blocks away. It wasnt a tv spectacular at all, black baptist homegoing ceremonies are always like that.
I wonder if a recording of the service will be available for people to own? I'm sure there would be a bit of interest.
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Old 19-02-2012, 10:52
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...but that does not mean I am not saddended by her passing.
I'm not trying to tell you or anyone what to think, I just find it hard to understand how you can be saddened by the passing of someone who destroyed her own life, and set a piss poor example.

Sure, we're all human and sometimes we make big mistakes. But there are plenty of examples - in music and without - of those who made similar mistakes to WH, and turned their lives around. As a result, they still have them.
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Old 19-02-2012, 11:07
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I'm not trying to tell you or anyone what to think, I just find it hard to understand how you can be saddened by the passing of someone who destroyed her own life, and set a piss poor example.

Sure, we're all human and sometimes we make big mistakes. But there are plenty of examples - in music and without - of those who made similar mistakes to WH, and turned their lives around. As a result, they still have them.
But you don't know the full circumstances of her situation and life is not that simple.

Go and give some of your time working in a drug rehabilitation centre or Alcoholic's Anonymous and I bet your view's, which I have to say or somewhat naive and blinkered, will change

I had an uncle who 'went off the wagon' or whatever it called and despite constant full support from his family and the health service, he eventually passed away, found dead on a park bench.

People are sad because they not only enjoyed Whitney's music (although many did not) because they are compassionate-which is nothing to be embarrassed by.
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Old 19-02-2012, 11:17
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Hardly a spectular, there was only one camera in the church...
Very true. And no "close-ups" of those in attendance except for who was on the 'stage' area. Quite respectfully done I thought.
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Old 19-02-2012, 11:20
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Originally Posted by nathanbrazil;56652603[B
]I'm not trying to tell you or anyone what to think, I just find it hard to understand how you can be saddened by the passing of someone who destroyed her own life, and set a piss poor example.[/b]

Sure, we're all human and sometimes we make big mistakes. But there are plenty of examples - in music and without - of those who made similar mistakes to WH, and turned their lives around. As a result, they still have them.
People have every right to feel sad for her. I don't believe you have the right to say people shouldn't,

Your being rather heartless

Behind the fame, money and drugs, she was a still a human being. Imagine if your relative went through something similar, and someone said a harsh comment about their death, i can imagine you wouldn't be too happy.
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Old 19-02-2012, 11:32
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Wow! This is my first thread - I appreciate all the discussion.

For people saying fair play Aretha was sick, I suppose the reason I think there's more to it is because she performed at Radio City both the night before AND the night after Whitney's funeral. So, in effect, she only had the "bad foot" during Whitney's funeral? I don't hate Aretha or anything - it's just methinks there's more to it.

Regarding the television coverage of the funeral, I for one was grateful to Miss Cissy for allowing me to watch the service.
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Old 19-02-2012, 12:32
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Perhaps she wasn't a hypocrite and so had better thing to do than listen to people try and lift a junkie up to the level of near sainthood.
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Old 19-02-2012, 13:21
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Jesus, OP. How much ignorance do you want to demonstrate?

Have you even stopped to think how Whitney's death was affected her loved ones? Painting her like a villain when there's a good chance she didn't attend because she just couldn't bring herself to is totally out of order.
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Old 19-02-2012, 15:32
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Jesus, OP. How much ignorance do you want to demonstrate?

Have you even stopped to think how Whitney's death was affected her loved ones? Painting her like a villain when there's a good chance she didn't attend because she just couldn't bring herself to is totally out of order.
I fully agree.
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Old 19-02-2012, 15:34
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I'm not trying to tell you or anyone what to think, I just find it hard to understand how you can be saddened by the passing of someone who destroyed her own life, and set a piss poor example.

Sure, we're all human and sometimes we make big mistakes. But there are plenty of examples - in music and without - of those who made similar mistakes to WH, and turned their lives around. As a result, they still have them.
Have you never made mistakes? How would you feel if you were in that situation and people said that?

Also it is not clear what caused her death (even though the funeral has been and gone), it may have been something more innocent.
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