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I agree with you whole heartedly. Some things work for some and not others. Adele can't be Beyonce, although Beyonce can be Adele. Mariah has to stand still and even being still she isn't perfect (even in her prime, she really had to concentrate to get her whistle notes on key, and sometimes she just made the noise rather than hit the exact same note).
I would suggest that your Adele's, Mariah's (although I can't stand her voice), Whitney's, Celine's, Katherine's and Amy's ...and musical theatre performers, will be singing really LIVE. The majority of the 'pop' singers will be miming. |
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As I say, someone like JLS should just sing LIVE to an instrumental backing track, supported by LIVE backing vocalists if necessary...and that is it. No pre-recorded backing vocals at all. If they are miming/singing to a pre-recorded vocal line, what is the point really?
Cheryl Cole did a (very rare) live set and her backing vocals (who were live) drowned her out.... |
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I am willing to bet that there are very, very, very few good pop singers who can still sing brilliantly LIVE (really) and move like JLS because of the breathing required. A lot of pop songs are between 120 and 130 beats a minute...which is intense. You move around at that speed for three and a half minutes...it is knackering. JLS are exhausted afterwards, but it is not because of their singing. It should be mind.
I would suggest that your Adele's, Mariah's (although I can't stand her voice), Whitney's, Celine's, Katherine's and Amy's ...and musical theatre performers, will be singing really LIVE. The majority of the 'pop' singers will be miming. Mariah does mime. Her track kept skipping during this performance so she blamed her backing vocalists (even though it wasn't their fault) and she was forced to sing the whole thing live because it messed up
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No tangent, and IMO, just those 2 along with whoever. I know Jessie J will be there, she's at the Diamond Jubilee concert. I don't think 1D will be there, they'll be in the USA and touring. JLS have an album to get out too. The performers have to be very good and good live to represent the UK. I don't think the Commonwealth will come into it. Since it's a UK event there will only be British performers from the UK I think. The two I mentioned can perform live without backing tracks (it depends on the song construction though, some songs have backing vocals in them in the background). Also Leona is working on her album so I don't know if she'll be performing, although she is doing the Hackney weekend event. 2 singers isn't that bad. We do have a wealth of talent, but to ignore them is simply silly, they have a lot to offer too. It won't just be those 2 performing (if they do perform). Bearing in mind, the acts selected have to put on a show to entertain the world. And we'll be judged on the opening and closing ceremonies.
Personally, I hope we don't see many XF/BGT performers at all...especially as there is a backlash now against those types of shows. I could cope with say Alex and JLS...but that is it really. It shouldn't turn into a promo for Cowell. |
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Adele was definitely live as she was singing out of tune most of the time
hahahahaha..... bless you deluded little Adele fans!! |
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Bjork and Kate Bush did. 50 words for snow and Biophilia. It's hard to draw the line, that's the difficulty. But I don't like the fan voting thing. It undermines the whole show. Music is very broad. But the Brits should have the urban and alternative (ie Bjork and Kate Bush) awards as it means people don't have to seek recognition from NME or MOBO because they aren't represented well. I don't think anything will change though. I couldn't believe they took out the rock and urban categories. The ceremony could be increased by 1 hour to accomodate this.
For me, where were the Dance Music categories? It was all singer/songwriters, guitars and angst ridden stuff wasn't it...hence why Rihanna, for me, was a welcome break...regardless of whether she was singing LIVE or not. ![]() Re: 'phone votes...I totally agree. All public phone ins are just popularity contests aren't they. Perhaps the short lists should be drawn up based on sales...and then the awards decided on from the short lists by specialist panels, panels unconnected to record companies/tv companies. |
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How shit was Adele? How good was Florence? Totally blew Adele out of the water, proving that Adele is highly overrated and florence is massively underrated
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The Queen is the UK's monarch, but also the Queen to the Commonwealth isn't she. The Jubilee is for the whole of the Commonwealth. I expect Canadian singers, Australian singers as well as others from around the Commonwealth. They have to cater for that whole audience...not just the XF/BGT audience...in my view.
Personally, I hope we don't see many XF/BGT performers at all...especially as there is a backlash now against those types of shows. I could cope with say Alex and JLS...but that is it really. It shouldn't turn into a promo for Cowell. |
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I don't really think there is a difference between live backing vocalists and pre-recorded backing vocals, other than pre-recorded ones blend the voice more and hide some of the bum notes, but even live backing vocalists can have this effect....
Cheryl Cole did a (very rare) live set and her backing vocals (who were live) drowned her out.... Re: the Cole performance. Certainly the verses were LIVE proper...and I believe the choruses were to. The backing singers were 'loud'. Now either that was done by design, to give the chorus the desired lift, to support a 'weak' vocalist (in my view) or the sound engineer got the levels wrong. I have know idea. You can certainly hear that it is totally LIVE though. LIVE sounds very different to pre-record/miming. |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxshE43LP7w
Mariah does mime. Her track kept skipping during this performance so she blamed her backing vocalists (even though it wasn't their fault) and she was forced to sing the whole thing live because it messed up ![]() Another example of miming going wrong... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF6EG4C8Q-A |
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...and you can clearly see it on this occasion. As I say, usually telly performances on telly programs are mimed.
Another example of miming going wrong... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF6EG4C8Q-A And another Mariah miming fail....I'm not convinced she can actually hit those notes outside of the studio anymore... |
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And another Mariah miming fail....I'm not convinced she can actually hit those notes outside of the studio anymore... Whether she can or not, for the sake of my ears, I wish she wouldn't bother. Vocal gymnastics is one of my pet hates. I immediately go off a song/singer who overdoses on the 'gymnastics'...all in the pursuit and belief that they are conveying some kind of 'emotion'. The only emotion it brings out in me is a desire to reach for the mute button and some ibuprofen.
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Best bits -1D winning an award..YAY! How gorgoeus is Louis. Rihanna was fantastic and Kylie looked stunning and os so well poised as usual.
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Very happy with most of the winners
Not that keen on Ed Sheeran but good on him. 1d winning best single? I didn't need Sally morgan to tell me that. I already guessed that Very happy with Adele's wins Happy with Lana Was a great night. I |
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Sorry if anyone has already mentioned this (I can't see it anywhere in this thread) but what the hell was going on with Plan B when he presented an award?! Was he off his face?
I couldn't believe it when Emeli Sande got the Critcs Choice Award and even though she was there, they spoke to Jessie J? WTF??? It was so akward seeing Emeli on camera for a split second looking like she had no clue what was going on and then it was all about Jessie. Was that to make up for her not winning an award ![]() |
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Yeah, Plan b was drunk. The minute he forgot it was 2012, it was obvious.
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I wasn't sure if he was or if he was just being a ****
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any show that hands one directon an award for best single (yes i know its voted by the public) loses any slim chance of credibilty and becomes a mockery. the brits has become a corporate shit festival, bring back the days of brandon block mugging off ronnie wood and liam gallagher abusing everyone.
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any show that hands one directon an award for best single (yes i know its voted by the public) loses any slim chance of credibilty and becomes a mockery. the brits has become a corporate shit festival, bring back the days of brandon block mugging off ronnie wood and liam gallagher abusing everyone.
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I totally agree, was gobsmacked, are they the only x factor finalists to win a Britt, they never even won the show. unreal.
And rebecca should've got a best female nomination/best breakthrough. Her sales have been incredible. 400k from early december to mid february off the back of 1 (just peaked at #10) single. (and it was no Bleeding Love either.)
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The Black Keys better than Foo Fighters for Best International Act.............no doubt about it.........but very unlikely.
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Sorry if it's already been discussed but George Michael was giving me Delia Smith half time pitch talk vibes when trying to say Mastercard, lol. I know it won't necessarily be champers-induced with George, though.
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Sorry if anyone has already mentioned this (I can't see it anywhere in this thread) but what the hell was going on with Plan B when he presented an award?! Was he off his face?
I couldn't believe it when Emeli Sande got the Critcs Choice Award and even though she was there, they spoke to Jessie J? WTF??? It was so akward seeing Emeli on camera for a split second looking like she had no clue what was going on and then it was all about Jessie. Was that to make up for her not winning an award ![]() |
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Did she even go up onto the stage?
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How shit was Adele? How good was Florence? Totally blew Adele out of the water, proving that Adele is highly overrated and florence is massively underrated
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And rebecca should've got a best female nomination/best breakthrough. Her sales have been incredible. 400k from early december to mid february off the back of 1 (just peaked at #10) single. (and it was no Bleeding Love either.)