Would have benn so much better if she sang it on her own
Rihanna - 'Birthday Cake'
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I went off here a while ago, something quite arrogant about her. She probably thinks teaming up with him is being controversial when it's actually quite sad.
What I don't understand is, does she even consider the message she is sending out to her legions of young fans?
I agree with you, HenryBane, she probably thinks she's being oh-so-controversial in doing this.
I agree with you, HenryBane, she probably thinks she's being oh-so-controversial in doing this.
To be honest it just makes me more inclined to believe the common thought that she was never the delicate flower of a victim, but instead was pretty much as bad as him. Maybe they deserve each other?
Alongside the recent news of Natalie Cassidy and Adam Cottrell getting back together, collaborating with Chris Brown even if not dating him, will send the wrong message to men that domestic violence has no consequences along with other negative, damaging messages.
Although try telling that to people on Twitter, all you get back is flamed for "not being happy for them" or "letting them live their lives" or "it's their business" or "get over it".
Although try telling that to people on Twitter, all you get back is flamed for "not being happy for them" or "letting them live their lives" or "it's their business" or "get over it".
Career Suicide!
Mark my words I can hear the Violence against women groups already screaming.
Way to go Riri you just set womens rights back 50 years.
Mark my words I can hear the Violence against women groups already screaming.
Way to go Riri you just set womens rights back 50 years.
Originally Posted by tghe-retford:
“Alongside the recent news of Natalie Cassidy and Adam Cottrell getting back together, collaborating with Chris Brown even if not dating him, will send the wrong message to men that domestic violence has no consequences along with other negative, damaging messages.
Although try telling that to people on Twitter, all you get back is flamed for "not being happy for them" or "letting them live their lives" or "it's their business" or "get over it".”
“Alongside the recent news of Natalie Cassidy and Adam Cottrell getting back together, collaborating with Chris Brown even if not dating him, will send the wrong message to men that domestic violence has no consequences along with other negative, damaging messages.
Although try telling that to people on Twitter, all you get back is flamed for "not being happy for them" or "letting them live their lives" or "it's their business" or "get over it".”
It is their business though. I'm not condoning what Chris did, but if they can both move past it, why can't people who have nothing to do with them also move past it?
Originally Posted by The Terminator:
“To be honest it just makes me more inclined to believe the common thought that she was never the delicate flower of a victim, but instead was pretty much as bad as him. Maybe they deserve each other?[/b]”
“To be honest it just makes me more inclined to believe the common thought that she was never the delicate flower of a victim, but instead was pretty much as bad as him. Maybe they deserve each other?[/b]”
No. There is no justification whatsoever for what he did, and the fact that she has a tough-girl public persona is irrelevant.
Quote:
“Robyn F picked brown,s cellular phone and picked up a three-page text message from a woman Brown had had a previous relationship with.
“A verbal argument ensued and Brown pulled a vehicle over in an unknown street. Reach over Robyn F with his right hand and open the car door and attempted to force her out. Brown was unable to force Robyn F out of the vehicle because she was wearing a seat belt. When he could not force her to exit he took his right hand and shoved her head against the passenger window of the vehcile causing an approx 1 inch raised circular contusion.
“Robyn F turned to face Brown and punched her in the left eye with right hand. He then drove away in the vehicle and continued to punch her in the face with his right hand while steering the vehicle with his left hand. The assault caused Robyn F Osmouth to fill with blood and blood to splatter all over her clothing and the interior of the vehicle. Brown looked at Robyn F and stated “I am going to beat the s–t out of you when we get home! You wait and see!?
“Robyn F picked her cellular phone and called her personal assistant Jennifer Rosales. Rosales did not answer the telephone but while her vm greeting was playing Robyn F pretended to talk to her and stated “I am on my way home. Make sure the cops are there when I get there? (this statement was made while greeting was playing and was not captured) after Robyn f faked the call, Brown and looked at her and stated, ‘You just did the stupidest thing ever! Now I really am going to kill you.’”
“Robyn F picked brown,s cellular phone and picked up a three-page text message from a woman Brown had had a previous relationship with.
“A verbal argument ensued and Brown pulled a vehicle over in an unknown street. Reach over Robyn F with his right hand and open the car door and attempted to force her out. Brown was unable to force Robyn F out of the vehicle because she was wearing a seat belt. When he could not force her to exit he took his right hand and shoved her head against the passenger window of the vehcile causing an approx 1 inch raised circular contusion.
“Robyn F turned to face Brown and punched her in the left eye with right hand. He then drove away in the vehicle and continued to punch her in the face with his right hand while steering the vehicle with his left hand. The assault caused Robyn F Osmouth to fill with blood and blood to splatter all over her clothing and the interior of the vehicle. Brown looked at Robyn F and stated “I am going to beat the s–t out of you when we get home! You wait and see!?
“Robyn F picked her cellular phone and called her personal assistant Jennifer Rosales. Rosales did not answer the telephone but while her vm greeting was playing Robyn F pretended to talk to her and stated “I am on my way home. Make sure the cops are there when I get there? (this statement was made while greeting was playing and was not captured) after Robyn f faked the call, Brown and looked at her and stated, ‘You just did the stupidest thing ever! Now I really am going to kill you.’”
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It's just very sad and people judging her for what is sadly an all too common occurrence is really unfair. Abuive relationships can be cyclical in nature and this is so textbook.
I don't even know what to say.
Originally Posted by shelleyj89:
“It is their business though. I'm not condoning what Chris did, but if they can both move past it, why can't people who have nothing to do with them also move past it?”
“It is their business though. I'm not condoning what Chris did, but if they can both move past it, why can't people who have nothing to do with them also move past it?”
The difference here though is that she is a public figure and an inspiration to millions of fans. What Rhianna does will be interpreted and emulated by her millions of fans. Doing what she is doing, considering her standing and fame, will send out the wrong message to the wider public.
Originally Posted by tghe-retford:
“The difference here though is that she is a public figure and an inspiration to millions of fans. What Rhianna does will be interpreted and emulated by her millions of fans. Doing what she is doing, considering her standing and fame, will send out the wrong message to the wider public.”
“The difference here though is that she is a public figure and an inspiration to millions of fans. What Rhianna does will be interpreted and emulated by her millions of fans. Doing what she is doing, considering her standing and fame, will send out the wrong message to the wider public.”
It's her life, if she wants to forgive him and be friends with him again, date him, whatever, she's well within her rights to do so. I for one am not going to sit here and judge her for it.
Originally Posted by tghe-retford:
“The difference here though is that she is a public figure and an inspiration to millions of fans. What Rhianna does will be interpreted and emulated by her millions of fans. Doing what she is doing, considering her standing and fame, will send out the wrong message to the wider public.”
“The difference here though is that she is a public figure and an inspiration to millions of fans. What Rhianna does will be interpreted and emulated by her millions of fans. Doing what she is doing, considering her standing and fame, will send out the wrong message to the wider public.”
I think your right! It's just a shame that it already seems as though so many of her & chris browns female fans are condoning the attack! I mean who in their right mind tweets 'Chris Brown cud beat on me any day!!!??'
To b honest though I get a strong sense of publicity stunts here from both camps. Although Chris Brown's career seems to be on the up- with his Grammy wins etc, his media persona is still in tatters. So who better to reach out to in order to help him repair it? Rihanna if course ! The Princess of controversy !!
I just wonder who is advising Rihanna these days on her choices? & what the hell does Jay Z think? Not long ago he was the mastermind behind the 'shunning' of Chris Brown! Just what has changed???
I'll never understand this industry
Its her life and if she wants to make ammends with Chris Brown then that's up to her. However the way she's done it does stink of trying to be controversial, why release a song with him instead of just publicly making a statement that they want to draw a line under it or just privately sorting it out. We had weeks of "PR leaks" 
telling us to expect something crazy/shocking/hysteria inducing on this new collab (which everyone guessed anyway). What a sad way to try and make money or get some publicity. Can understand why people are angry such as fans and groups against violence to women.
telling us to expect something crazy/shocking/hysteria inducing on this new collab (which everyone guessed anyway). What a sad way to try and make money or get some publicity. Can understand why people are angry such as fans and groups against violence to women.
Originally Posted by Tulip19:
“No. There is no justification whatsoever for what he did, and the fact that she has a tough-girl public persona is irrelevant.”
“No. There is no justification whatsoever for what he did, and the fact that she has a tough-girl public persona is irrelevant.”
Well I didn't say there was any justification. And I wasn't referring to her public persona (which is more "cheap skank" than "tough girl" from what I have seen) but rather the common rumour that they were both a pair of belligerent, mutually violent arseholes, rather than it just being Chris Brown.
Originally Posted by Stupid_Head:
“No self respect.
And if that above happens again, who's fault is it?”
“No self respect.
And if that above happens again, who's fault is it?”
The fault of whomever chose to be violent,
Originally Posted by The Terminator:
“Well I didn't say there was any justification. And I wasn't referring to her public persona (which is more "cheap skank" than "tough girl" from what I have seen) but rather the common rumour that they were both a pair of belligerent, mutually violent arseholes, rather than it just being Chris Brown.”
“Well I didn't say there was any justification. And I wasn't referring to her public persona (which is more "cheap skank" than "tough girl" from what I have seen) but rather the common rumour that they were both a pair of belligerent, mutually violent arseholes, rather than it just being Chris Brown.”
I hadn't heard those rumours, but even so nobody deserves what is described above to happen to them.
I don't think you can attach a caveat to that kind of disgusting behaviour.
She has obviously forgiven him and I really hope she doesn't live to regret it.
This must be "go back to your bastard boyfriend week". Rhianna and desperate famewhore Natalie Cassidy back with their violent boyfriends.
Stupid, stupid women.
Stupid, stupid women.
Its not the fact she has forgiven him for what he did. In many ways I think that is big of her. What I hate about this is that the whole product feels so attention seeking and sleazy. Its really a huge low for both of them.
Sorry but with one song she has endorsed what he did yes im all for forgiving but to collaborate with a cheap sleazy attempt at a reconciliation is demoralizing and disgusting i feel for her i do.
I'm sorry I love the remix its so hot I think people need to get over it now yes what he did was wrong but she's forgiven him and they have moved on it was three years ago now its not like there together as well he has a girlfriend its only a song .
I actually love the remix, its a hot song, them working together again is a good thing, it doesnt send out a bad message to her fans, it shows them that they can get on with their lives and move on to a better place, it also shows that people can change.
Originally Posted by AdzPower:
“I actually love the remix, its a hot song, them working together again is a good thing, it doesnt send out a bad message to her fans, it shows them that they can get on with their lives and move on to a better place, it also shows that people can change.”
“I actually love the remix, its a hot song, them working together again is a good thing, it doesnt send out a bad message to her fans, it shows them that they can get on with their lives and move on to a better place, it also shows that people can change.”
I don't see how this shows that people can change.
It shows that they've moved on but just because Rihanna agreed to do a song with Chris doesn't prove that he's changed in any way.
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