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Kylie is an entertainer not an artist. She is happy to give the public what they want. Her music has no message other than 'let's have fun!' David Bowie was therefore correct what he said about Robbie and Kylie.It's not really an insult, just the truth.
An artist pushes boundaries, creates their own path, makes you think, creates controversy. Bowie is an artist. Madonna was an artist until her last two or three albums and now she seems to be following Kylie as an entertainer. |
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Kylie is an entertainer not an artist. She is happy to give the public what they want. Her music has no message other than 'let's have fun!' David Bowie was therefore correct what he said about Robbie and Kylie.It's not really an insult, just the truth.
An artist pushes boundaries, creates their own path, makes you think, creates controversy. Bowie is an artist. Madonna was an artist until her last two or three albums and now she seems to be following Kylie as an entertainer. |
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Kylie is an entertainer not an artist. She is happy to give the public what they want. Her music has no message other than 'let's have fun!' David Bowie was therefore correct what he said about Robbie and Kylie.It's not really an insult, just the truth.
An artist pushes boundaries, creates their own path, makes you think, creates controversy. Bowie is an artist. Madonna was an artist until her last two or three albums and now she seems to be following Kylie as an entertainer. |
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Kylie is an entertainer not an artist. She is happy to give the public what they want. Her music has no message other than 'let's have fun!' David Bowie was therefore correct what he said about Robbie and Kylie. It's not really an insult, just the truth.
An artist pushes boundaries, creates their own path, makes you think, creates controversy. Bowie is an artist. Madonna was an artist until her last two or three albums and now she seems to be following Kylie as an entertainer. I personally don't have a problem with Kylie being labelled an entertainer. After all, she's entertained me for 25 years. But it is my opinion that she has displayed more artistry during those years than you're evidently giving her credit for. She has a huge wealth of creative output which extends to something a bit more substantial than "let's have fun!" As for her being happy to give the public what they want, I assume you don't mean when she's done exactly the opposite and sold not a lot of records in the process? The truth is, Kylie has always been eager to push her boundaries, work hard, learn lots and continually better herself. It's the public who don't seem too happy when she ventures off into new creative directions. |
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Wow that is soooooo bitchy.
I could understand it for Robbie but Kylie isn't cruise ship and David hasn't had a career since 1982 anyway Yeah that#'s why he was nominated for a Mercury Price in 2002 |
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"She sings like an actress and acts like a singer"
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I personally don't have a problem with Kylie being labelled an entertainer. After all, she's entertained me for 25 years. But it is my opinion that she has displayed more artistry during those years than you're evidently giving her credit for. She has a huge wealth of creative output which extends to something a bit more substantial than "let's have fun!"
As for her being happy to give the public what they want, I assume you don't mean when she's done exactly the opposite and sold not a lot of records in the process? The truth is, Kylie has always been eager to push her boundaries, work hard, learn lots and continually better herself. It's the public who don't seem too happy when she ventures off into new creative directions. An true artist reinvents themself, takes risks and challenges public taste and opinion when they create something new. Hopefully - as Bowie did by abandoning Glam to experiment with Plastic Soul and then to electronic soundscapes - they will persuade their audience and take them along on their journey. |
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There is a creative process in what she does and she's come a long way for a TV soap actress, but you can't compare anything she has in her back catalogue to Madonna's Like A Prayer and Justify My Love/Erotica eras. When Kylie has stretched herself out of dance-pop it has failed. Her most creative period - 'Indie Kylie' was rewarded by being dropped by her record company. Her comeback Spinning Around - cowritten by Paula Abdul - was a swift return to what people wanted - more dance pop - and she never went near much in the way of experimentation again.
An true artist reinvents themself, takes risks and challenges public taste and opinion when they create something new. Hopefully - as Bowie did by abandoning Glam to experiment with Plastic Soul and then to electronic soundscapes - they will persuade their audience and take them along on their journey. I love Kylie's '87-'92 and '00-'12 periods, along with Madonna's '83-'90 (up to Vogue), '98, '05 and '06. I don't put one above the other. I don't put either on a ped-a-stool. The periods mentioned relating to both are good periods of pop/dance music in my view. Simple as... |
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My fave Kylie album is Light Years - disco heaven.
![]() And 'Kylie Minogue' when she was with Deconstruction Records - adore Put Yourself In My Place.
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For me, I love commercial pop/dance. If any artist goes 'experimental' / 'weird' / 'non-commercial', I'm not interested.
That's good. I have friends who feel the same. And for the record I like Kylie and own a lot of her music. What Do I Have To Do is one of the most euphoric pop dance songs ever. |
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That's good. I have friends who feel the same. And for the record I like Kylie and own a lot of her music. What Do I Have To Do is one of the most euphoric pop dance songs ever. |
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There is a creative process in what she does and she's come a long way for a TV soap actress
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but you can't compare anything she has in her back catalogue to Madonna's Like A Prayer and Justify My Love/Erotica eras.
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When Kylie has stretched herself out of dance-pop it has failed. Her most creative period - 'Indie Kylie' was rewarded by being dropped by her record company. Her comeback Spinning Around - cowritten by Paula Abdul - was a swift return to what people wanted - more dance pop - and she never went near much in the way of experimentation again.
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An true artist reinvents themself, takes risks and challenges public taste and opinion when they create something new.
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There are plenty of quotes over the last couple of years from artists such as JLS/Fergie/Britney/Joan Collins/Katy Perry/Rihanna..its just a case if finding them...
Can we not sidetrack from the topic itself ploise! Thanks |
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I read something nice about her yesterday in an article about the brits, written by a journalist at the mirror.He was talking through his favourite moments over the years
RuPaul and Kylie (1994) "Kylie is the one artist who never lets her ego get in the way of a good joke. So when skyscraper-sized transvestite RuPaul got out his magnifying glass to get a good look at teeny, tiny 5ft Kylie, she just laughed her head off. With some other artists it could have been a BIG problem…" "Kylie is a favourite backstage. She hangs out with all other artists, makes no demands and has been known to track down and thank the assistants who put Aussie sweets in her room. I spotted her in 2008 chatting with Paul McCartney. The pair just stood at the bar admiring his socks." |
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What a horribly back-handed acknowledgement that was. Kylie hasn’t been a soap actress for something like 23 years, plus her beginnings are irrelevant to a discussion about whether or not she is/has been an artist since then.
Apart from the fact that I *can* compare the quality of some of Kylie’s creative output with Madonna’s on those albums, this has absolutely nothing to do with Madonna, nor Bowie, nor anyone else you personally have decided is an artist, for that matter. Comparisons are irrelevant. Would Monet not be an artist because you thought Da Vinci’s work was better, for example? This is also completely irrelevant (including the cheeky Paula Abdul reference). You didn’t mention success in your earlier definition and now you’re changing the goal posts. You said Kylie wasn’t an artist because she didn’t do what you now admit she has done. But now you’re saying that she’s not an artist because the result wasn’t very popular? Is only popular successful art “true art” now? Kylie has reinvented herself and done exactly what you said many times. Besides, that’s your definition. It’s not *the* definition. For me, the crucial bit is...is this singer/artist genuine? is what they are doing believable and from the heart? With Kylie and Madonna, the answer is yes. |
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What a horribly back-handed acknowledgement that was. Kylie hasn’t been a soap actress for something like 23 years, plus her beginnings are irrelevant to a discussion about whether or not she is/has been an artist since then.
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Apart from the fact that I *can* compare the quality of some of Kylie’s creative output with Madonna’s on those albums, this has absolutely nothing to do with Madonna, nor Bowie, nor anyone else you personally have decided is an artist, for that matter. Comparisons are irrelevant. Would Monet not be an artist because you thought Da Vinci’s work was better, for example?
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This is also completely irrelevant (including the cheeky Paula Abdul reference). You didn’t mention success in your earlier definition and now you’re changing the goal posts. You said Kylie wasn’t an artist because she didn’t do what you now admit she has done. But now you’re saying that she’s not an artist because the result wasn’t very popular? Is only popular successful art “true art” now?
Succesful in terms of accolade and positive feedband and succeful enough to experiment more without the record company bailing out. The chart positions of her 'indie' period were okay as far as I can see.She should have battled on and not run back to the dancefloor so quick.Quote:
Kylie has reinvented herself many times. Besides, that’s your definition. It’s not *the* definition.
Not really. She moved from cute teenage Smash Hits dolly to a more grown up look and after that just changed her frock. That's not proper reinvention on an artistic level. Her singles over the last 10-12 years could be off any of her albums. All The Lovers could have come directly after I Believe In You or vice versa. What she's not taken from Goldfrapp she's taken from Madonna or even Traci Lords' 1000 Fires. And she gets lots of help from producers and writers (which admitedly Madonna does as well).
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A silly response that defies sensible argument.
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Succesful in terms of accolade and positive feedband and succeful enough to experiment more without the record company bailing out. The chart positions of her 'indie' period were okay as far as I can see. She should have battled on and not run back to the dancefloor so quick.
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Not really. She moved from cute teenage Smash Hits dolly to a more grown up look and after that just changed her frock. That's not proper reinvention on an artistic level.
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Her singles over the last 10-12 years could be off any of her albums.
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What she's not taken from Goldfrapp she's taken from Madonna or even Traci Lords' 1000 Fires. And she gets lots of help from producers and writers (which admitedly Madonna does as well).
This is your opinion again. I would be very surprised if Kylie has even heard Traci Lord's album and - since I personally am *very* familiar with 1,000 Fires - I'd be interested for you to explain what elements Kylie has taken.If someone disagrees with everything you've said here, is Kylie an artist? |
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FFS can we stick to the topic!
Thankyou stash22, that was a lovely post! |
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...Succesful in terms of accolade and positive feedband and succeful enough to experiment more without the record company bailing out. The chart positions of her 'indie' period were okay as far as I can see.She should have battled on and not run back to the dancefloor so quick.
Not really. She moved from cute teenage Smash Hits dolly to a more grown up look and after that just changed her frock. That's not proper reinvention on an artistic level. Her singles over the last 10-12 years could be off any of her albums. All The Lovers could have come directly after I Believe In You or vice versa... [LIST=1][*]Kylie (1988) - 2,105,698 UK units[*]Fever (2001) - 1,900,000 UK units [*]Enjoy Yourself (1989) - 1,400,000 UK units[*]Light Years (2000) - 478,281 UK units[*]X (2007) - 462,000 UK units[/LIST] Impossible Princess (1997) - 60,668 UK units Re: her image/musical styles...in my opinion... '87-'89 - pop Kylie/girl-next-door '90-'92 - dance/club Kylie '94-'98 - indie Kylie '00-'01 - dance Kylie '03-'07 - r 'n' b Kylie '10-present - dance Kylie |
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Any other quotes from other celebs??
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Any other quotes from other celebs??
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[LIST=1][*]Kylie (1988) - 2,105,698 UK units[*]Fever (2001) - 1,900,000 UK units [*]Enjoy Yourself (1989) - 1,400,000 UK units[*]Light Years (2000) - 478,281 UK units[*]X (2007) - 462,000 UK units[/LIST]
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Re: her image/musical styles...in my opinion...
'87-'89 - pop Kylie/girl-next-door '90-'92 - dance/club Kylie '94-'98 - indie Kylie '00-'01 - dance Kylie '03-'07 - r 'n' b Kylie '10-present - dance Kylie |
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"Ultimate Kylie" has sold about 1 million copies in the UK, not sure if you're just counting studio albums...
I wouldn't call 'Body Language' pop/dance at all. If it was anything, it was more r'n'b...which I wasn't so keen on. I am so hard to please ay. I Believe In You and Giving You Up were pop/dance anthems certainly. I had forgotten about them. |
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Indeed I was...but hey ho...
I wouldn't call 'Body Language' pop/dance at all. If it was anything, it was more r'n'b...which I wasn't so keen on. I am so hard to please ay. I Believe In You and Giving You Up were pop/dance anthems certainly. I had forgotten about them. |
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In general Kylie is loved by many celebrities and i have never heard another celebrity say she is rude or anything like that. Of course there is a few like Noel etc that dont like her music etc which is fair enough as altho i adore her music i can see it isnt everyones cup of tea. She has built up alot of respect for herself in the industry and that doesnt come easy.
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