[Loopzilla]

Originally Posted by wannabegothchav

Personally I don;t think Audrey needs a carer. She needs to get off her fat, mouldy arse and go to the loo. She is well capable, she's just too bloody lazy. If she got up to make her own tea, wash up or go to the loo, she'd lose weight. Her problems aren't that bad to need a carer. Grrrr.

Totally agree, she needs friends and a weekly coffee morning or something more than a carer. Mind you, saying that, what "normal" person who doesn't need a carer walks around stinking of wee. If she's not physically disabled, there's something psychological there. Poisonous family atmosphere probably makes her not want to care for her personal hygiene. I mean, if I was married to Phil, I'd wee my knicks at every opportunity to keep him at bay.

But what gets my goat is that Phil is getting carers allowance to look after her, but does nothing but complain about the smell. He just doesn't get it that carers are supposed to sort that out for the people they're looking after.

If they took his carers allowance from him, he can complain about her all he likes.

Originally Posted by mrs.deschanel

One thing about her that I noticed today - the look on her face when the horse woman kissed her and hugged her. That women has no affection in her life at all. As much as I have a lack of sympathy for all of them, because there comes a point in your life where you have to take responsibility for yourself and stop blaming everything under the sun, I felt sad for Aud then. I can't imagine a life without a cuddle from my children or a kind word.

It's Stockholm Syndrome. She is totally in love with her captor and knows nothing of how exhilirating life can be for her if she ditched Chawner Towers. My little dog's like that, we call her "Stockholm" too. She follows me around everywhere with doe-eyes, even though she is my prisoner [evil cackle]

[auntiem]

I had the misfortune yesterday to watch the programme Man v Food, (man goes to all these food outlets in the USA trying to beat their eating challenges - biggest meal on the menu type stuff). I am sure the Chawners watch this and think ''mmmmm normal portion sizes!'

[loopylass1977]

HEY GUYS
what channel and time are the repeats on??? i cant find them in the tv guide

[mrs.deschanel]

Originally Posted by loopylass1977

HEY GUYS
what channel and time are the repeats on??? i cant find them in the tv guide

Bio HD 3pm weekdays.

Chawners Last Chance starts next week. Booby grabs and hard ons. Actually Philth asked Emma today if she wanted to watch him and Aud have sex. Made me queasy and nearly put me off my ginormous bag of chocolate buttons I was scoffing while Mr D had the boys at swimming class. Luxury that - quiet house, chocolate and watching me programmes for a whole hour a week :-).

[LilAud]

I see Phil has posted this on his FB page

A cat in the US that got international attention for tipping the scales at 17.6 kilograms has died from apparent complications of his morbid obesity.

You think that might ring a bell somewhere in his brain?

[Loopzilla]

Originally Posted by LilAud

I see Phil has posted this on his FB page

A cat in the US that got international attention for tipping the scales at 17.6 kilograms has died from apparent complications of his morbid obesity.

You think that might ring a bell somewhere in his brain?

I wonder what his thought process is when he shoves stuff like that up. Is he thinking. "I'm just like that cat" with a morbid grin on his face? Or does he genuinely think he's on the moral highground because he ate some salad while St Lorraine was overseeing his diet?

I don't know how he's still alive. The weight, the pacemaker, the diabetes fuelled by overeating and too much salt. He doesn't even clean his teeth and that's been shown to create a build up of plaque in the arteries over time. Why don't all these hospital visits frighten him into being healthy? That's not normal.

[kiviraat]

Todays episode made me incredibly sad and angry (cos come on, having NO affection in your life is going to mess you up and make you even more distant than you may already be), but I did have to laugh at Emma's stookie that Dan had written "Sausages!" on What did she do to her arm anyway? Damage it filling out a job application?

[Nikkiclody]

I didn't watch all the episode today, just watching the part now where the Doctor asks Audrey and Phil why they don't kiss and cuddle and he keeps mentioning her smell ..and then her false teeth, and he has nearly all his teeth he says, is he serious??

Half his teeth are missing too, he is so nasty to her, he just keeps going on and on about her smell and he is her carer fgs.,what is he being paid to do just drive her car and insult her

She said she loves him from the bottom of her heart he is a pig pure and simple.

[collywobble]

I think it is too easy to call Audrey lazy etc etc. She is just so browbeaten, tell someone they are disgusting and a waste of space often enough and they will believe it and simply give up. Be honest - could you endure what she does day after day, especially from that evil Sam screaming at her and hitting her. I think it's obvious she just can't find the energy to fight back or even move, whatever she does is wrong. I wish she would get up from her chair, walk out of the door and leave them all to it.

[Nikkiclody]

Originally Posted by collywobble

I think it is too easy to call Audrey lazy etc etc. She is just so browbeaten, tell someone they are disgusting and a waste of space often enough and they will believe it and simply give up. Be honest - could you endure what she does day after day, especially from that evil Sam screaming at her and hitting her. I think it's obvious she just can't find the energy to fight back or even move, whatever she does is wrong. I wish she would get up from her chair, walk out of the door and leave them all to it.

She has three bullies to deal with, I know what it's like to be verbally abused and be put down all the time it's awful, and she has three of them at her all the time.

Also Lorraine with her poor Sam crap at the end of the show annoyed me, poor Sam my arse..she can cry all she wants and act like the hurt little girl, she is horrible to her Mother when Lorraine and all the so called experts are not around.

[tally]

This is when I chime in and wonder what Bio could have done.

Given them free 24 hour counselling and someone to teach them how to run a home, deal with each other as a family and life skills to react to various situations.

It'd be a long long time but it would be their only hope. It'd never happen a) because though they are the most disfunctional family in Britain, they dont want to change, and without the desire to change nothing ever will and b) because it'd make for boring telly, St Lorraine wouldn't be able to patronise and sneer at them.

Still Dr Phil managed it a few years back in The Dr Phil house. People and families spent time there being monitored a la Big Brother mode.
Their issues were brought up and, having been confronted with their behaviour, there was an extensive session in how to change things.

The last thing the Chunkies need is a weight loss guru. The fat is the symptom not the cause of their obesity. Until, and I know it'll never happen, they learn how to do things, they'll never make any progress. You learn by how you observe and experience life. How can Emma and Sam ever be normal when they've got the repulsive Philth as their role model? How could they get a boyfriend and start a mature loving relationship when they live in a house where there is no love?

I'd love to hear Aud's backstory ( I know she was adopted) and see how she's become the worst mother ever. I've never seen or heard her talk in a maternal way. Sam yells at her Mother because she knows she can and is encouraged to do so by her father, Emma acts as if she's 12 years old because that's how she's treated. If she babies up to Papa his little (Hah!) Princess can get whatever she wants. Why bother with jobs?

PAH. They disgust me. I'd be very tempted to give them a grand or two, stop all the benefits they can and let them stand on their own two feet.

I'd give it a day before they all turned up at a local hospital pleading various illnesses and getting a bed.

[AwesomeGeorge]

There is no love in the Chawner household. Phil told us in NZ that the UK regarded his family as the new Osbournes. Well, I'm sorry, Phil. but the Osbournes, although dysfunctional in many ways, absolutely shone with love and affection for each other. They all supported each other. Plus Ozzy and Sharon are rightfully famous, unlike the Chawners who haven't even made it to the bottom rung of the ladder of fame.

Phil patently loathes his wife, I wish she would leave him, and take her mobility car and carer's allowance with her. That would muck up his money for sure. I think she's too down-trodden to even consider any other kind of life though, no wonder she needs the escapism of non-stop TV.

[hammerfan]

Originally Posted by tally

This is when I chime in and wonder what Bio could have done.

Given them free 24 hour counselling and someone to teach them how to run a home, deal with each other as a family and life skills to react to various situations.

It'd be a long long time but it would be their only hope. It'd never happen a) because though they are the most disfunctional family in Britain, they dont want to change, and without the desire to change nothing ever will and b) because it'd make for boring telly, St Lorraine wouldn't be able to patronise and sneer at them.

Still Dr Phil managed it a few years back in The Dr Phil house. People and families spent time there being monitored a la Big Brother mode.
Their issues were brought up and, having been confronted with their behaviour, there was an extensive session in how to change things.

The last thing the Chunkies need is a weight loss guru. The fat is the symptom not the cause of their obesity. Until, and I know it'll never happen, they learn how to do things, they'll never make any progress. You learn by how you observe and experience life. How can Emma and Sam ever be normal when they've got the repulsive Philth as their role model? How could they get a boyfriend and start a mature loving relationship when they live in a house where there is no love?

I'd love to hear Aud's backstory ( I know she was adopted) and see how she's become the worst mother ever. I've never seen or heard her talk in a maternal way. Sam yells at her Mother because she knows she can and is encouraged to do so by her father, Emma acts as if she's 12 years old because that's how she's treated. If she babies up to Papa his little (Hah!) Princess can get whatever she wants. Why bother with jobs?

PAH. They disgust me. I'd be very tempted to give them a grand or two, stop all the benefits they can and let them stand on their own two feet.

I'd give it a day before they all turned up at a local hospital pleading various illnesses and getting a bed.

Excellent post Tally - however, if Bio had done this, it would show that they were actually interested in helping them, but a lot of the help offered wasn't going to be any use once the family were together.

The best thing is to split them up, teach them all what being an adult is (cooking/cleaning/enough education for a job/self respect/realisation that bullying leads no-where) and then mediate a big fat reunion. If the family were happy spending time together then they might all go on walks and lose weight, or cook proper meals together, but as long as they're all together, the best help in the world won't help - see Sam after America.

Sam came back after some of the best treatment available, still unable to get her head around calories and the fact there are such things as good fats and a little oil will not kill you. If you increase your exercise you can pretty much eat what you want - but if you're sitting on your arse, then it's best to stick to salads and water if you don't want to put weight on.

I think I'm just rambling now, but this family frustrate me so much, they believe they are above getting a job now as they're famous and to compare themselves to the Osbournes is an insult. While they might not be to everyone's taste, that family care, love, support & respect each other.

[mrs.deschanel]

So Sam might have to have a bit of ovary removed and says it would make it harder to have kids. Phil says "she can't have no kids". Not true and a complete exageration from him yet again. I think he must have a form of Munchausens the joy he gets from their ailments and the way he makes them into something they aren't.

Can someone please put some flipping sheets on their beds!! How unhygienic for Sam to lie in Emma's bed fully dressed to watch TV with no sheet. Then Emma has to sleep in there. That mattress must be utterly rancid the amount of bodily fluids seeping in. Ewww.

[nygirlygail]

So Sam might have to have a bit of ovary removed and says it would make it harder to have kids. Phil says "she can't have no kids". Not true and a complete exageration from him yet again.

Not to be mean, and aside from medical reasons for Sam having something done to her ovary, I think worrying over whether she'd be able to have kids is a moot point. In addition to a somewhat functioning ovary, she needs a man and an act of intimacy in order to even make a baby, and there's no one on the horizon as far as that's concerned.

What she can -- and does -- make, repeatedly, is a fuss, a mess, a stink, a problem, trouble, and noise....but at this stage, I don't see her making a baby....

[mrs.deschanel]

Well Aud managed to get knocked up in a car and she wasn't a svelte oil painting either so you never know. I have in my head Heather from EastEnders and George Michael's yoghurt pot lid in the toilet cubicle now. Yikes. It only takes the once and apparently there's someone for everyone. Maybe once Phil bogs off to the great sausage factory in the sky she'll meet someone through a lonely hearts column and history will repeat itself.

[Loopzilla]

I think having half an ovary is the least of Sam's problems when it comes to having kids. First of all she needs to escape Phil who won't let her have a boyfriend.

Emma's got even less chance cos she sleeps in the same room as her parents.

I must admit, having to share a room with parents above the age of five would force me to seek alternative accommodation.

[LilAud]

I think Sam will find that her biggest problem with getting pregnant and having a successful pregnancy will be her weight. She is likely to develop gestational diabetes, have a difficult labour, put the baby at risk and then overfeed it so we have yet another overweight child and a morbidly obese adult.

[AwesomeGeorge]

Originally Posted by Loopzilla

I think having half an ovary is the least of Sam's problems when it comes to having kids. First of all she needs to escape Phil who won't let her have a boyfriend.

Emma's got even less chance cos she sleeps in the same room as her parents.

I must admit, having to share a room with parents above the age of five would force me to seek alternative accommodation.

I am astonished that Emma shares her parents' bedroom, why on earth doesn't she share with her sister? Or sleep downstairs?

It's beyond bizarre that an adult daughter chooses to sleep in the same room as her mother and father.

Doesn't it occur to her that they may want some private time together?

Yes, I know we're talking about Phil and Audrey here, the idea of intimacy is laughable, but they are still husband and wife, it's not unheard of for married couples to have sex, even when they are in their 50's and 60's.

[pinkpowerranger]

Originally Posted by AwesomeGeorge

I am astonished that Emma shares her parents' bedroom, why on earth doesn't she share with her sister? Or sleep downstairs?

It's beyond bizarre that an adult daughter chooses to sleep in the same room as her mother and father.

Doesn't it occur to her that they may want some private time together?

Yes, I know we're talking about Phil and Audrey here, the idea of intimacy is laughable, but they are still husband and wife, it's not unheard of for married couples to have sex, even when they are in their 50's and 60's.

In yesterdays episode they said the dog sleeping with them was one of the causes for them not having sex (along with Aud's hygene problems) but surely your daughter being 2 feet away would be even more off putting?

[AwesomeGeorge]

Originally Posted by pinkpowerranger

In yesterdays episode they said the dog sleeping with them was one of the causes for them not having sex (along with Aud's hygene problems) but surely your daughter being 2 feet away would be even more off putting?

The family dynamics are truly disturbing. Plus Audrey shouldn't have hygiene issues when her husband is paid to be her carer.

[mrs.deschanel]

I think Phil has Emma in their room on purpose as another excuse not to go near Aud. He did ask yesterday if she wanted to watch them have sex - like he can't because she's in the room. Sam's room is small and her bed takes up all the space but given a choice I'd rather share a bed with her than sleep on that rancid sheet free mattress in her parents's room. Please note Aud and Phil have the same bedding on (which wasn't clean when we first saw it) all through the shows. Says it all about their cleanliness.

[AwesomeGeorge]

Originally Posted by mrs.deschanel

I think Phil has Emma in their room on purpose as another excuse not to go near Aud. He did ask yesterday if she wanted to watch them have sex - like he can't because she's in the room. Sam's room is small and her bed takes up all the space but given a choice I'd rather share a bed with her than sleep on that rancid sheet free mattress in her parents's room. Please note Aud and Phil have the same bedding on (which wasn't clean when we first saw it) all through the shows. Says it all about their cleanliness.

Ew, yuck, how revolting. Why doesn't Emma have sheets on her bed anyway? That can't be pleasant, sleeping on a bare mattress.

I've noticed Phil seems to sleep in his undershirt and wears it again all day, with no shower in between - so his hygiene can't be all that great either.

I bet that little house reeks.

[kiviraat]

Just watching today's prog just now and that cyst didnt look like it was the size of a tennis ball (unless the poorly over was the size of a football! ) It's actually quite nice seeing Audrey with the horses but we all knew it wouldnt last, especially with Phil in control of her transport. I can't wait til last chance being shown next week! I won't be able to watch it there and then but looking to a Chawnerfest next weekend!

I really need to go back and read over all the old posts while the episodes were being shown

[LilAud]

Originally Posted by AwesomeGeorge

Ew, yuck, how revolting. Why doesn't Emma have sheets on her bed anyway? That can't be pleasant, sleeping on a bare mattress.

I've noticed Phil seems to sleep in his undershirt and wears it again all day, with no shower in between - so his hygiene can't be all that great either.

I bet that little house reeks.

And don't forget to add in all the animal, fag and cooking smells