iPlayer - yes we have

4OD - works via the website, not a specific app (remember playbook can use flash websites that the iPad can't).

Demand5 - works via the website

ITV Player - works via the website

Sky player - haven't tested

Google maps - there's an app for this, but I tend to use Bing maps app

National Rail - there are numerous train time apps, couldn't find a national rail one, but good mobile site, just make a bookmark on your desktop and it takes you straight in

onenote - hundreds of note taking apps in appworld, didn't check them all

Evernote - yes

GTA - No, Sim City - Yes, Scrabble - No, PVZ - Yes

Kindle - Yes

OED - More dictionary apps than you can shake a stick at, didn't check them all.

Dropbox - No, but there are numerous other cloud based storage apps.

The fact that the Playbook can render Flash and HTML5 properly means that there are many things it can do without needing dedicated 'apps' the iPad only needs a 4OD app, because it can't show the 4OD website properly, same goes for Youtube and many other video services.

There are a lot of apps on app world, and some big developers getting behind PlayBook (EA games has a lot of titles out already, and more to come).

I had an iPad before getting my PlayBook, I have since given the iPad to my mother (she loves it BTW), but I love my PlayBook. Not every product will be the best solution for everyone.

ETA: Dropbox is available on BlackBerry, so I would assume that it's coming soon to PlayBook

The iPad may not have Flash, but it *does* support HTML5 and can use HTML5 sites such as YouTube, iPlayer, TVCatchUp etc.

Fair enough, the last time I tried to use Youtube on my iPad it didn't work (that was a little while ago mind).

4OD Still doesn't work on the iPad via the website. You just get the message 'Flash upgrade required'. SO my point is still semi valid. That is without testing every conceivable video hosting site - I imagine a fair few still use Flash?

Anyone used the 'control' function via Bridge yet?

The YouTube mobile site is actually a hell of a lot better than the app you get with the iPad. It's been HTML5 since the summer of 2010.

Sure, some video sites do still use Flash...but many have moved to HTML5 and/or have an app, especially major sites, and more video sites continue to do so... Mobile Flash is dying. Even Adobe has realised that HTML5 is the better option.

I don't see the problem of being unable to use 4oD etc. via the browser... you just use the app instead. Hardly an issue to use an app. On one device you use a browser, on another an app... what does it matter, so long as it works and it is free?

Still, we're going OT here...

I don't recall saying that it was a problem at all. I was merely citing that while the Playbook doesn't have a dedicated app for 4OD etc... The content is full accessible via the browser. In response to Gormond asking which apps were available.

I think comparing to an ipad your always going to get pros an cons.

For the price and quality of this, this is a dark horse. It's worth just buying it to try it.

App wise is always going to boil down to personal requirements and use.

Wife's got ipad2 its great, I had an Archos g9 g80 liked the features.

Now have the PlayBook a big wow factor for 169.00 the only thing it doses not do yet for my needs is stream decently from Qnap nas drive. However can ftp video files over to the PlayBook with an app as a workaround

My uses that it works great for are

Email client now
Hdmi out for watching video files on tv
BBC iplayer
Hd cams
Surfing - really smooth

i have not come across or had a problem playing any website video clips at all. I rarely use my laptop to surf the web the 7inch screen is surprisingly very good and has good viewing angles

Even considering getting a black berry phone as the bridging option looks good. Though I do love my iphone.

Quite an impressive lineup, I would be tempted to get one myself to give it a go.

Over on the Blackberry support forum, there are loads of people moaning that the upgrade has left their PB slow or non-functional. I wonder why some (most) have upgraded fine but some haven't?

I like it but I am getting all my emails through on one of my email addresses right back to the beginning of the year which is a little bit annoying but probably down to me doing somethign wrong

Yes, it's quite funky. I'm not sure when I'd actually use the feature - but it's cool!

Quick question. Has anyone tried side-loading Android on the Playbook since the new OS was released?

For your dropbox solution there is a client program called bluebox. It syncs with your dropbox account. So in that respect your covered. There is an article up on crackberry on how to install converted android apps. Looks a simple process known as side loading. There is a list of what apps are compatible. For the time being whilst app world is being populated with apps, keep an eye out for the work around.

www.crackberry.com

Just to add don't let the lack of apps be a deal breaker. There is so much more to like about the playbook. Core functionality is now there since the update. At this price point it cannot be beat.

Took my playbook in to work the other day and I got one work mate who is buying the 64gb today and have two other friends who are seriously considering it.

Yes, if only you could stream from a NAS drive, it would be perfect. I can stream from it, but not to it. Grrrr....

Do you really need to use FTP to transfer files to the Playbook? Mine appears automatically on my Windows network as \\playbook (or whatever you've called your PB in the network settings) and you can map it as a network drive.

It's quite useful to be able to FTP from the Playbook though. So if I goto the browser on my PB and put in ftp://10.0.1.XX of my mac, I can browse all the content directly from my PB and open up files straight on my PB.
For video files however it seems you have to download them to the PB as you cannot open a URL in the video player app.

Ah - I see what you mean. I hadn't tried running an FTP client on the PB.

I've just been playing with the Print To Go feature and it's quite funky.

I was really looking forward to the Print to Go feature, but there are no drivers out for the mac yet which is a shame. It looks like something I would use a lot!

Anyone getting longer boot up time since the upgrade? Mine takes significantly longer to get going, but everything runs ok.

Mines actually seems a bit faster, thats the problem with alot of tabs very slow to boot up, it's ipads the quickest i have seen on my travels

To be honest I never turn mine off.

I just think this is pretty darn awesome!

http://crackberry.com/rim-and-tat-de...world-congress

It's a good bit of kit.

For me just needs a proper Twitter client (free).

Have you tried side loading android apps? You could install the android twitter app. There are guides online on how to do this. It's very easy.

Not yet since I "tweet" from various devices!

Wow. That's one funky demo.