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whatever happened to the counter culture?
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Glawster2002
22-02-2012
Originally Posted by Eric_Blob:
“One Direction aren't going to complain that they got an award are they? Not because they are "industry bulls***" like you want to believe, but it's because the public voted for them.

Their fans took the time to vote for them, so of course One Direction would be greatful for that.

If the acted "well hard" and "oh so rebellious" like those rock bands you used to like, they'd be insulting their fans, not the BRIT awards.”

Considering One Direction's origins, that was hardly going to happen, was it? They are as "corporate" as every other winner last night.

The BRIT Awards were set up by the corporate music industry for the corporate music industry so it always has, and always will, be aimed at "rewarding" corporate blandness.

That is why bands like Led Zeppelin, Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Pink Floyd, etc, will never get the recognition they deserve for their contribution; not only to British music but for carrying the flag for British music around the world.
Warwick_Hunt
22-02-2012
Being the father of a 15 and 17-year-old boys, I can hardly convey how disappointed I am in their choices of music.

From when they were born, I found myself looking forward to being a curmudgeonly, old spoilsport, constantly shouting up the stairs to 'turn that rubbish down', 'you call that music', 'you can't hear the words' and so on.

This, sadly, hasn't happened.

The only thing that offends me is the bland and benal it all is.

Interchangable faces/voices singing all-too-similar beige songs, written by a committee in a boardroom to appeal to as much of the demographic as possible.

In my opinion, good music, like all good art, should embrace the power to shock, provoke debate and challenge opinions.
mushymanrob
22-02-2012
Originally Posted by Warwick_Hunt:
“In my opinion, good music, like all good art, should embrace the power to shock, provoke debate and challenge opinions.”

couldnt agree more
leosw4
22-02-2012
Originally Posted by Warwick_Hunt:
“Being the father of a 15 and 17-year-old boys, I can hardly convey how disappointed I am in their choices of music.

From when they were born, I found myself looking forward to being a curmudgeonly, old spoilsport, constantly shouting up the stairs to 'turn that rubbish down', 'you call that music', 'you can't hear the words' and so on.

This, sadly, hasn't happened.

The only thing that offends me is the bland and benal it all is.

Interchangable faces/voices singing all-too-similar beige songs, written by a committee in a boardroom to appeal to as much of the demographic as possible.

In my opinion, good music, like all good art, should embrace the power to shock, provoke debate and challenge opinions.”

A similar discussion took place with my friends last night, who are all in 30s/early 40s.

We where saying when we got to this age, we expected to be complaining about certain types of music being 'noise' and complaining like our parents complaining about metal, jungle, techno or whatever else we where into during the 80s/90s.

Instead its almost as if things have gone full circle after watching the TOTP re-runs from 1976, with vacuous/novelty dance tunes, tv stars releasing records, bland groups woeful boy bands who where 'going to be as big as the Beatles'-I have lost count how many times I have that one over the years.

Its all 'too nice'.
Residents Fan
22-02-2012
Originally Posted by Warwick_Hunt:
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In my opinion, good music, like all good art, should embrace the power to shock, provoke debate and challenge opinions.”

This might explain why someone like P.J. Harvey, while
she keeps getting nominated for BRIT Awards, never
actually wins one- her music is "edgy" and makes some
of her listeners uncomfortable.
starsailor
22-02-2012
Originally Posted by leosw4:
“A similar discussion took place with my friends last night, who are all in 30s/early 40s.

We where saying when we got to this age, we expected to be complaining about certain types of music being 'noise' and complaining like our parents complaining about metal, jungle, techno or whatever else we where into during the 80s/90s.

Instead its almost as if things have gone full circle after watching the TOTP re-runs from 1976, with vacuous/novelty dance tunes, tv stars releasing records, bland groups woeful boy bands who where 'going to be as big as the Beatles'-I have lost count how many times I have that one over the years.

Its all 'too nice'.”

We need a new punk then.. How would the Sex pistols go down in todays Brit Awards
leosw4
22-02-2012
Originally Posted by starsailor:
“We need a new punk then.. How would the Sex pistols go down in todays Brit Awards ”

Strangely enough Vivienne Westwood has been complaining how bland British fashion has become this week-obviously this did raise a few eyebrow's but she does have a point..
mushymanrob
22-02-2012
Originally Posted by leosw4:
“Strangely enough Vivienne Westwood has been complaining how bland British fashion has become this week-obviously this did raise a few eyebrow's but she does have a point..”

she does indeed have a point, however, shes not done bad out of it as alot of her creations can still be seen today...lol.

there wont be a new punk, there cant be, because it was done from the grass roots up. any attempt now will sadly be just another fancy dress attempt of being something from the past.
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