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Old 22-02-2012, 10:57
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It was uncomfortable to watch and ITV should have either let the show overrun or plan the show so that it would run short and then use some filler if it was needed.


A few things that surprise me though are peoples reactions to James Corden and Blur.


For one, it's not James Corden's fault, he would have been told to cut her off by the producers and that would be his job, so you can't blame him for doing it. Blame the producers but not the presenter.


The other thing I don't get is some people bringing Blur into it and going on about Adele winning the biggest award of the night.

She didn't win the biggest award of the night, Blur did, unless of course Album of the Year is now more important than a Lifetime Achievement award?



Album of the Year is of course a main award to get, but the LA award is something else, something Adele could collect in 20 years time.


The bottom line is, Adele and Blur should have been given appropriate time. Blur giving a long speech for a LA I can take, anyone giving a long speech with loads of thanks for Lifetime Achievement/Outstanding Contribution type awards I can take.

Blur getting an 11 minute set is fine by me.

Like them or not, they were huge (not moderately successful as someone said earlier). Seriously, I was at school when Blur and Oasis were at their peak and those two bands were massive with quite a rivalry going on.

To call them moderately successful is laughable.


Most artists never get one so it holds some level of prestige and for the artist is of course an honor.

I think Blur were cut short too, weren't they supposed to have an 11 minute set?
I agree Lifetime achievement should be the biggest award of the night. However that isn't the way it is billed by the Brits. The whole night was geared up to the best album prize which is why it was announced last after the LA award.
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Old 22-02-2012, 11:43
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I agree Lifetime achievement should be the biggest award of the night. However that isn't the way it is billed by the Brits. The whole night was geared up to the best album prize which is why it was announced last after the LA award.
I get that, but its anecdotal, the Best Album award isn't the biggest award of the night, a LA award or OC award is by definition the biggest award you can get, regardless of what anyone 'says'.

People can scream blue murder that Adele won the biggest award of the night but she didn't, Blur did, by the very definition of the award they won.

Anyway, they shouldn't have cut Adele off, it was a bit off. They could have let the thing overrun.

The only reason I really brought it up was, as Blur won the biggest award that the ceremony has to offer, if they couldn't overrun, then of course they would have to keep the set for Blur.
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Old 22-02-2012, 11:45
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Only entertaining thing that happened last night.
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Old 22-02-2012, 11:51
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the whole thing was a mess. Ed Sheeran winning two awards? why?!

one direction winning best single over someone like you...only one of the biggest selling songs GLOBALLY in years.

The Foo Fighters winning there award and that tramp being able to waffle on for ages.

how people can be calling adele a chav when damon albarn or however ur spell it couldnt even be bothered to wash or brush his greasy hair. how they won outstanding contribution to music ill never know, a lifetime acheivement? HARDLY!

i didnt agree with the spice girls winning it so early on but at least the spice girls were globally successful and really deserved it after how much success they had in such a short space of time.

im not really sure why adele sang rolling in the deep, a song over a year old? she couldve sang any other song off her album-obv not someone like you, overkill!

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Old 22-02-2012, 11:55
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I get that, but its anecdotal, the Best Album award isn't the biggest award of the night, a LA award or OC award is by definition the biggest award you can get, regardless of what anyone 'says'.

People can scream blue murder that Adele won the biggest award of the night but she didn't, Blur did, by the very definition of the award they won.

Anyway, they shouldn't have cut Adele off, it was a bit off. They could have let the thing overrun.

The only reason I really brought it up was, as Blur won the biggest award that the ceremony has to offer, if they couldn't overrun, then of course they would have to keep the set for Blur.
They could have done but then they'd have to pay a fine.
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Old 22-02-2012, 13:11
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In America, whenever a live show runs behind, they keep it going and just delay the following show. I wonder why ITV didn't just do that. It has zero effect on advertising.
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Old 22-02-2012, 13:19
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They could have done but then they'd have to pay a fine.
As a massive Blur fan and someone who can take or leave Adele except for the fact that she's played EVERYWHERE AND I WANT IT TO SHUT UP, I can't believe they didn't just cut Blur short. They played three songs on the main broadcast, FFS. I think most people would have been happy with two, then if you really want to watch the rest change to ITV2.
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Old 22-02-2012, 13:21
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They do it for football so I really have no idea why they can't do it for The Brits. Failing that give the show to the BBC, who can do this sort of show successfully and have no advertisers to worry about .
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Old 22-02-2012, 13:52
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As a man of the 90's Blur were my favourite band of the Brit-Pop Era. I was very excited waiting for the performance last night and was loving it - but why did they cut short Parklife before it had finished? They broke away and cut to the credits very disrespectful for someone picking up a life-time achievement award.

They should have cut Adele of earlier imo so we got to see the full Blur set. We had already heard from her earlier in the night and no-one really wants to hear another generic acceptance speech.

I hope the producers take on board this feedback for next year.
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Old 22-02-2012, 13:54
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I see what you did there.
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Old 22-02-2012, 14:04
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As a man of the 90's Blur were my favourite band of the Brit-Pop Era. I was very excited waiting for the performance last night and was loving it - but why did they cut short Parklife before it had finished? They broke away and cut to the credits very disrespectful for someone picking up a life-time achievement award.

They should have cut Adele of earlier imo so we got to see the full Blur set. We had already heard from her earlier in the night and no-one really wants to hear another generic acceptance speech.

I hope the producers take on board this feedback for next year.
Deliberate wind up? Oh well, I'll bite
Cut her off earlier, lol? She only said about 4 sentences. The person they really should have cut short was Damon Albarn and his seemingly 30 minute 'drone' earlier in the show. THAT'S what caused the major problem with time towards the end of the show, ironically. And I was a fan of Blur in the 90s but my God they were awful last night. Sorry.
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Old 22-02-2012, 14:11
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Why didnt they stop that idiot from Blur talking so much crap? That would have added at least another 5+ minutes to the programme & allowed Adele to finish. But its very important they get the news on. They dont seem to cut off football matches like that!!
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Old 22-02-2012, 14:14
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Making this the main news headline today has been ridiculous. Moreso because it was Adele's second speech of the night anyway. But, they still could easily have given her more time because there was nothing on ITV1 after 10pm anyway (there never is). Just let it overrun a bit. If it slightly messed up the ITV2 aftershow, who would care?
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Old 22-02-2012, 14:17
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In America, whenever a live show runs behind, they keep it going and just delay the following show. I wonder why ITV didn't just do that. It has zero effect on advertising.
Because it was the news next. You can't delay the news lol, itv would get letters
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Old 22-02-2012, 14:18
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Blur were s**t anyway!
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Old 22-02-2012, 14:19
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Deliberate wind up? Oh well, I'll bite
Cut her off earlier, lol? She only said about 4 sentences. The person they really should have cut short was Damon Albarn and his seemingly 30 minute 'drone' earlier in the show. THAT'S what caused the major problem with time towards the end of the show, ironically. And I was a fan of Blur in the 90s but my God they were awful last night. Sorry.
It's true. And I was really looking forward to it as well. I think they'd be a lot less anger about Adele being cut off if Blur had been good, but they were so undeniably awful (and I'm saying this as a Blur fan!) and Damon Albarn spent so long on his own speech that it made it seem even more unfair that Adele didn't get a chance to speak.
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Old 22-02-2012, 14:21
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Blur's sales on I-Tunes are through the roof.
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Old 22-02-2012, 14:22
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Football is way more important than the Brits or Adele.

Besides, they already know before hand there is a chance extra time is possible so will usually put some rubbish on directly after (or after the news) so they can delete it from the schedule (or "show at a later date").
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Old 22-02-2012, 14:52
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Because it was the news next. You can't delay the news lol, itv would get letters
Maybe, but it's common practice for BBC One to delay the news when there's a live event on, so I think ITV1 could just do the same. Plus it's ITV News - nobody cares.
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Old 22-02-2012, 15:42
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Football is way more important than the Brits or Adele.
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only to those who are interested in it. There are others on the other hand that think live music is important
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Old 22-02-2012, 16:16
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the whole thing was a mess. Ed Sheeran winning two awards? why?!
His hugely successful, and really very good album, +. Not to mention him slogging it out on the live circuit as much as he has.

one direction winning best single over someone like you...only one of the biggest selling songs GLOBALLY in years.
Perhaps, but it was an award voted for by the public. OD presumably have more fanatical, likely to vote fans. Like them or not, at least it was a pretty catchy pop song.

The Foo Fighters winning there award and that tramp being able to waffle on for ages.
The Foo Fighters, as in one of the biggest and most successful rock bands in the world? The tramp, as in Taylor Hawkins. (I think it was anyway, apologies if I've gotten that wrong.)

how people can be calling adele a chav when damon albarn or however ur spell it couldnt even be bothered to wash or brush his greasy hair. how they won outstanding contribution to music ill never know, a lifetime acheivement? HARDLY!
As I said earlier, Damon on his own would probably have been more worthy winner.

Adele? A couple of albums.

Damon Albarn? This little lot
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Old 22-02-2012, 16:38
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I don't understand the people blaming Blur for Adele being cut off.
Surely people are aiming for the wrong target there aren't they?
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Old 22-02-2012, 16:43
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I don't understand the people blaming Blur for Adele being cut off.
Surely people are aiming for the wrong target there aren't they?
Don't expect logic on these forums.
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Old 23-02-2012, 00:55
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blur were the best british band of the 90's and have achieved more critiical success in their career than adele has so far, the biggest award in the brits is outstanding contribution and so to fit every thing in they had to cut adele off. damon albarn did witter on during his speech though, you should also bear in mind that the 20 million album selling gorillaz ( which albarn co-created, wrote all the songs for and sang lead vocals)were probably the biggest british success of the noughties
It seems we measure success in different ways, or maybe one of us changes our criteria to fit our own personal opinion?

To me, critical acclaim don't mean squat when in comes to success. It's all about sales. Adele's second album sold more than the entire Blur discography in less than a year. Quite an achievement, you cannot deny. And I've not researched this but I'm pretty sure The Spice Girls and maybe even Oasis sold more records than Blur so your opinion of Blur being the best British band of the 90s is just that - an opinion.

You seem to measure the success of Gorillaz by numbers so why not Blur?
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Old 23-02-2012, 01:02
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it was shocking cutting her off, but she had said enough

i didn't watch it anyway.

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mind you it's like Davina on million pund drop. come on, come on, hurry up and pick your category. then take ages waiting for flaps to drop, and for ad breaks
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