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davethorp
28-02-2012
Originally Posted by gold fire 201:
“Stiggles which part of the uk do you live ?.As i am intrested to know which areas they are testing in.Also are you on a contract with a phone or sim only contract ?”

Going off his profile to the left of his post I would hazard a guess at Dundee in Scotland

Tempted to try and get one of these myself. Indoor coverage at home can be a little flakey at times with occasional drops to orange
gold fire 201
28-02-2012
[quote=davethorp;56829603]Going off his profile to the left of his post I would hazard a guess at Dundee in Scotland


Whoops i missed that lol.
Stiggles
28-02-2012
Originally Posted by gold fire 201:
“
Whoops i missed that lol.”

Lol yeah! Dundee and I'm on a contract.

I just got a text from Three saying it will be here between 1406 and 1506 so shall update this when i get it.
gold fire 201
28-02-2012
Originally Posted by Stiggles:
“Lol yeah! Dundee and I'm on a contract.

I just got a text from Three saying it will be here between 1406 and 1506 so shall update this when i get it.”

Would it be possiable to do a unboxing video showing how it works etc on youtube etc ?
Stiggles
28-02-2012
Originally Posted by gold fire 201:
“Would it be possiable to do a unboxing video showing how it works etc on youtube etc ?”

I'll try but dont really have much time today to do so. Will see what i can do
ajh94
28-02-2012
ah u got one? cool! yeah do an unboxing and set up if u can, if not just tell us about it :P
Stiggles
28-02-2012
Ok well its here.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/62/img0001tfz.jpg/

And what it looks like..

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...mg0002olc.jpg/

It comes with a sim card that needs to be slotted in the bottom. Plugged it in and the green light flashed away for about 10mins then became steady. Looked at my phone and i now have a full signal!

When using the phone, the light on the front of the box flashes to show its in use.

So far pleased with it so will see what like when i make a voice call.

Any questions, fire away.
ajh94
28-02-2012
looks cool!! Yeah it takes a card that looks like a SIM card doesent it, looks identical to a SIM but its not, its a smart card :/
carguy143
28-02-2012
I can see the advantage of products like this(at my girlfriend's house for example, all i get there is a low Orange 2g signal). I just hope that networks aren't using this as a cop out for improving coverage using traditional networks that everyone in the area can benefit from.

Rik.
Stiggles
28-02-2012
Originally Posted by ajh94:
“looks cool!! Yeah it takes a card that looks like a SIM card doesent it, looks identical to a SIM but its not, its a smart card :/”

Yeah, its exactly the same size as a sim card.

Seems to be working fine so far. By now my old vodaphone sure signal had restarted itself about 6 times lol
wavejockglw
28-02-2012
Originally Posted by Daveoc64:
“Agreed. It DOES take a lot of work to roll out femtocells.

You have to consider a lot of issues - logistical, marketing, regulatory, financial etc.

You can't just start selling them.”

All of the regulatory work was done already, hense Vodafone have been selling/suppling them for about a year now. They use existing frequencies that are licenced to the mobile operators and are low powered to prevent interference to other networks.

Others have been hanging back probably to see what happened with Vodafone. Sure Signal got good publicity initially and they probably covered their costs selling them for £60-£80 but within a very short time the price crashed to £20-30 and lately they have been used as retention tools.

So they add additonal cost but the payback is retaining a customer who has home reception issues. It is surprising that it has taken a year or more for others to catch up providing these.

Orange's solution using Wi-Fi on enabled smartphones looks like an even better solution as it is software based and requires no additional investment in equipment for a customer to connect to the network via their home broadband.
gold fire 201
28-02-2012
Originally Posted by Stiggles:
“Ok well its here.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/62/img0001tfz.jpg/

And what it looks like..

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...mg0002olc.jpg/

It comes with a sim card that needs to be slotted in the bottom. Plugged it in and the green light flashed away for about 10mins then became steady. Looked at my phone and i now have a full signal!

When using the phone, the light on the front of the box flashes to show its in use.

So far pleased with it so will see what like when i make a voice call.

Any questions, fire away.”


Thanks for taking the time to post the pictures.Is the signal strong going around the house does it reach to the garden.My sure signal is pretty good giving coverage.When adding numbers to it did you have to call them to do it or by a web portal ?
Stiggles
28-02-2012
Originally Posted by gold fire 201:
“Thanks for taking the time to post the pictures.Is the signal strong going around the house does it reach to the garden.My sure signal is pretty good giving coverage.When adding numbers to it did you have to call them to do it or by a web portal ?”

Ive not tried going outside but, im working on nightshift tonight so will leave at 2230. Ill see how far i go before it loses signal and shall update when i get to work.

Around the house its excellent. Full signal everywhere.
wavejockglw
28-02-2012
Originally Posted by Stiggles:
“Around the house its excellent. Full signal everywhere.”

And that is exactly where it is designed to work. Not outside as that can cause interference to other users of the mobile network.
reclusive46
28-02-2012
Originally Posted by wavejockglw:
“And that is exactly where it is designed to work. Not outside as that can cause interference to other users of the mobile network.”

And most will be able to get some sort of signal outdoors.
Richard_T
28-02-2012
would these devices work abroad, and allow you to escape roaming charges?
reclusive46
28-02-2012
Originally Posted by Richard_T:
“would these devices work abroad, and allow you to escape roaming charges?”

No. They will block none UK IP addresses. They would be highly illegal outside the UK as Three would not have a licence to use it in other countries. It would be like Three putting up a mast in Paris and hooking up its backhaul to a standard French ISP and saying this is just to help our customers avoid roaming fees.
wilt
28-02-2012
Originally Posted by reclusive46:
“No. They will block none UK IP addresses. They would be highly illegal outside the UK as Three would not have a licence to use it in other countries. It would be like Three putting up a mast in Paris and hooking up its backhaul to a standard French ISP and saying this is just to help our customers avoid roaming fees.”

It's possible with a VPN, not practical for anyone holidaying, and VoIP solutions would be more practical for ex-pats who want a UK number.

Plus it would be illegal as you say.
gold fire 201
28-02-2012
Originally Posted by wavejockglw:
“And that is exactly where it is designed to work. Not outside as that can cause interference to other users of the mobile network.”

I think he is fully aware of that due to it being home signal.He was actually referring to the performance of the three unit giving people a idea how well he think it is performing against the Vodafone product.
Daveoc64
28-02-2012
Originally Posted by wavejockglw:
“And that is exactly where it is designed to work. Not outside as that can cause interference to other users of the mobile network.”

This is one of the "regulatory" issues I was describing earlier.

When you specify your location on registration, the device should be assigned to a frequency that is relatively vacant in your area (which in most cases will be all of them)!

No network would allow a femtocell to clash with a proper base station.

There is absolutely no potential for interference, as the network takes care of that.

The infrastructure required to do this is part of the rollout process - it's not something that you can just switch on straight away. You have to integrate it with existing systems.

The registration location is also used to provide the Emergency Services with your location if you have to call them.
Thine Wonk
28-02-2012
Actually Daveoc64 the new technologies in use in these devices allow them to look for spare frequencies and monitor / change if needed.

The same technology is actually being put into network cells, easing the need for network engineers to do fine tuning and allowing the cells to choose their own best frequency / change if necessary with conditions.

This technology is still under development, but it does help with network tuning and frequency re-use.
reclusive46
28-02-2012
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“Actually Daveoc64 the new technologies in use in these devices allow them to look for spare frequencies and monitor / change if needed.

The same technology is actually being put into network cells, easing the need for network engineers to do fine tuning and allowing the cells to choose their own best frequency / change if necessary with conditions.

This technology is still under development, but it does help with network tuning and frequency re-use.”

Are three not stuck on the one frequency though?
Daveoc64
28-02-2012
Originally Posted by reclusive46:
“Are three not stuck on the one frequency though?”

There's a difference between a frequency and a frequency band.

Three has an allocation of the 2100MHz band - that has several frequencies within it that can be used by individual cell sites and users.
battlezone
28-02-2012
After seeing this thread I have contacted 3 regarding poor signal strength in and around our house.

Fair do's to 3. Within 24 hours a return call asking for more information. When the operator called me on my mobile the call disconnected within 10 seconds! Actual proof that I wasn't winding them up. I'm told to expect another call within 7 days after they have checked the mast which is about half a mile from our house.

Watch this space.
wavejockglw
28-02-2012
Originally Posted by Daveoc64:
“There's a difference between a frequency and a frequency band.

Three has an allocation of the 2100MHz band - that has several frequencies within it that can be used by individual cell sites and users.”


Vodafone seem to have been able to sort this out with sure signal and there is no reason why 3 or any other networks could not do likewise.
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