I always found listening to Real Radio, they seem to play the 'correct' radio versions.

Fair point - at least they don't mess about with nasty in-house mashups.

And don't cut the songs off half or three quarters of the way through.

Cutting songs off half way through is never a group thing it's down to bad back timing from the presenter. The worst offender of this is Radio 2 by a mile.

Which in turn is the fault of incompetent management.

Surely the music chopping is more down to the head of music?

The editing of songs and setting segue/NTP markers will be down to a Head of Music or somebody in production loading the files into the playout system. Cutting songs short will be down to the presenter because he or she has screwed up their backtiming.

Well if the latter is the case on Heart, ask them to stop doing so!

I hate 'PC' edits on old songs such as The Devil Went Down To Georgia where the line 'You son of a bitch' has the bitch bit muted on all airings on Radio 2, no problems playing it on Radio 1 back in 1979 to Britain's youth....

And not forgetting the Fairytale of New York debacle.

Slightly in reverse to what the OP is talking about, but what bugs me is, when doing a chart run down stations play the longer version of a track (probably the album version) rather than the 7" version. This probably happens because the 7" version was never digitized, for tracks pre CD era, a few I can think of...

Blondie - Sunday Girl, the 7" version didn't have a verse sang in French, you only hear the French version.

Police - So Lonely, the 7" version has a heavy edit in the middle missing out the 'Low Low Low' bit, radio always fades before this bit.

Jam - Thats Entertainment, often the Sound Affects album version is played, not the German remixed import version, which charted.

Boomtown Rats (Don't Like Mondays) David Bowie (Ashes To Ashes) only the versions with the extended bridges are played.

Sure there are many more, Its quite refreshing that Simon Bates only plays vynil on Smooths Golden Hour where you do get to hear some of the originals.

That is not true, not for Kiss anyway. Yes they do play in-house edits of songs, but to say they never play the full radio edit (or in some cases radio edit of a dancey remix) is untrue. I've heard on a full version of tracks on a number of ocassions during daytime.


I disagree with you there. Yes, Where Is The love is hacked on Heart (last i heard it had the rap removed), but the worst I've heard has got to be "I Gotta Feeling", which on Heart could just as well be renamed to "Let's Do It, Let's Do It..." coz 75-80% only has that in it.

To be fair though, the Where Is The Love that I've heard on Heart is the same one thats played on Star Radio (Cambridge) so that must be one provided by the record labels. Another song thats edited on both Heart & Star is One Love by Blue in which Simon Webb's rap is also removed.

Not quite sure I'd agree on this, I've noticed that Real definately play edited versions of Madonna's "Like a Prayer" and Don Henley's "Boy's of Summer"

Aled Jones always times his records perfectly up to the pips every Sunday. Why can't other presenters do it.

Heart played Soft Cell 'Tainted Love' last night. Intro was hacked to bits. Shocking, Not a long song either is it....what do they think we're gonna be bored by the intro?? Its an intro we expect to hear. In full.
Instead of thinking 'oh great.its Tainted Love' you think.i'is that Tainted Love? theyve sodding ruined it.' And do nt give me any crap about timings because this was overnight.

Sigh. There are two slightly different intros :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHDd9y-h6SI&feature=fvst (the version you heard)

And :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHDd9y-h6SI&feature=fvst (the version you might be thinking of)

Wrong on both counts I@m afraid,,there was hardly any intro.

Sorry I posted the wrong link. This is the version with a shorter intro. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDHnGz6Scik

No!!.You are still wrong. It was none of those. Intros far too long,

Well I have no idea what version you are thinking of but this is the version on Heart which is not a "hack" or an 'edit job" http://www.mediafire.com/?8i4trgvs4xvqgd9

How do you know? Do you work on Heart??

The single version was always "Son of a gun"

The album version was "Son of a bitch"




The version with the middle verse sung in French was on The Complete Picture-Best of Blondie album. The proper UK single version, all in English, is on several compilation albums you can get.

Why record companies do this is beyond me. It's totally stupid. Those buying The Best of Blondie will want the proper single versions.



Again, i suspect that these were the versions put on the best of albums by record companies & uploaded onto radio station databases.

A lot of stations also play all the wrong Madonna mixes. They are using the Immaculate collection album cuts, which were all re-mixes.

It's a mixture of heads of music/programme controllers not knowing and/or not caring

Maybe the jock just trimmed the intro to fit under a sweeper, this is pretty common practice by a lot of jocks to make segues sound tighter.

Wow, you and I agree on something, kind of!

I'm glad someone else has bought up the issue of The Immaculate Collection. The amount of times I hear the "wrong" mixes drives me potty, especially the awful Immaculate version of Express Yourself. You can more-or-less find the "correct" versions on Celebration.

Yes the celebration ones are better, but i'm not convinced they are all the original mixes, but i only listened to a few.

The Century 21 Gold Discs for radio stations had the proper versions on & radio stations could still get the updated or similar versions of these discs from the US which they will now supply on hard disc.

The amount of times i've been told by clueless managers that it doesn't matter if it's not the proper mix, no-one cares etc.

Celebration has the proper radio edits - that said, with the exception of Like A Prayer and Express Yourself, it was only the QSound mixing that was the real difference.

The tech op you mean.because there was no jock,as we have established. Someone butchered Soft Cell last night anyway.