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Alexandra Burke Performs Elephant Acoustic!!
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Boxfresh
25-02-2012
Originally Posted by miles19740:
“Fiddling with the ear piece is all part of 'the act'. Don't be fooled.

I expected her to mime as it was a studio based telly show, so I wasn't disappointed from that point of view.”

Hate to break it to you, but Alex really can sing and dance Elephant live that good. Hard to believe, but she is that gifted.

She gave a performance at the Tickled Pink concert, where she did a lot of dance moves, sang the song almost to the same standard as the actual studio recording, and not one person thought she was miming. Here is the Tickled Pink performance;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbtYh47CvYo
Boxfresh
25-02-2012
Originally Posted by Master Ozzy:
“Stop being so ridiculous and shooting down everyones comments that she wasn't miming. You said "This is not the X Factor now, this is the real world. It is not physically possible to sing properly and dance rigorously at the same time".

It is possible, even with a hand held microphone. Beyonce and a number of other artists are able to do it and Alexandra is one of them. She didn't even do that much choreography in this performance. When she was on the X Factor she did routines with a lot more choreography than she did tonight, and she sang at the same time.”

I think people are so used to artists who simply can't sing well and move at the same time, that they've come to believe it's some sort of impossibility

Alex has show the ability to sing to near studio quality and dance/move at the same time numerous times It's nothing new.. She was doing big routines on the X-Factor, and she'd never have been allowed to mime on the show. Like you said, she's basically in a class with Beyonce as one of the few mainstream artists who can sing live to near studio quality and move at the same time.

Sure, not every artist can do it. Kelly Rowland only sounds great when she's not moving too much, and her vocals can be badly comprimised by dancing. But artists like Alex and Beyonce are an exception.
miles19740
25-02-2012
Originally Posted by Zack06:
“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHrK6qez9Ac#t=1m19s

How do you explain her shouting halfway through the track (see 1:20 of the video), the lack of auto-tune heard on the radio edit....and her slightly pitchy vocals....?

It was live.”

Mate, hand held mikes can be switched on and off at a moments notice. It is all part of creating the 'illusion'.
miles19740
25-02-2012
Originally Posted by Dave0893:
“...I didn't hear any sound problems and it wasn't her earpiece she was fiddling with it was her earring.”

Precisely, because she was miming to a pre-record.
iseloid
25-02-2012
Originally Posted by miles19740:
“Mate, hand held mikes can be switched on and off at a moments notice. It is all part of creating the 'illusion'.”

Yes, but she'd be perfect if it was recorded. She wasn't, in fact, she was very very very uncomfortable, and she was very pitchy, which is not like her at all. Her vocals don't work when mixed with autotuned ones (at the beginning). She was singing it all live, start to end.
miles19740
25-02-2012
Originally Posted by iseloid:
“No she didn't. BUT you'd LOVE to see her mime and fail wouldn't you? Why on earth would she mime, when she's performed it all live as we showed you?”

Listen, I have explained my singers mime when they appear on studio based shows...because it is easier for all concerned. If she did it live, she would have to be sound checked by the sound engineer etc. All the levels would have to be sorted to...and it is time consuming.
miles19740
25-02-2012
Originally Posted by Zack06:
“Yes but unlike Cheryl, Alexandra wasn't 'delivering' perfectly in tune vocals whilst doing full on choreography....She kept stopping at the end of lines, was quite pitchy in places....plus we all know Alexandra can sing live and dance (see The X Factor) unlike others...”

Come on...lose the excuses. In my book, there is no difference between Cheryl and Alex. Both mime most of the time.

Re: Alex...if she wasn't 'delivering' perfectly in tune vocals, why? It isn't acceptable is it? A 'singer'/'vocalist' should concentrate on singing only...forget all the surrounding 'fluff'!
Zack06
25-02-2012
Originally Posted by miles19740:
“Come on...lose the excuses. In my book, there is no difference between Cheryl and Alex. Both mime most of the time.

Re: Alex...if she wasn't 'delivering' perfectly in tune vocals, why? It isn't acceptable is it? A 'singer'/'vocalist' should concentrate on singing only...forget all the surrounding 'fluff'!”

This comment is so ridiculous that I'm just not going to continue this discussion now. You can think what you want Miles, but you are the only one here arguing that she wasn't singing live.

She can clearly sing and hardly ever mimes at all. I'll leave you with this video of a stunning performance by Alexandra.....watch that then tell me that there's no difference between Cheryl and Alexandra...:yawn:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmI6syS1guo
miles19740
25-02-2012
Originally Posted by iseloid:
“It is. But not with a hand held mic. You need a headpiece one.”

Excuses don't wash with me I am afraid.
miles19740
25-02-2012
Originally Posted by Zack06:
“She wasn't dancing rigorously though was she? She was doing mainly upper body dancing, and most of the time she was just walking and standing....

She wasn't dancing like Britney or something with kicks and jumps etc....

She sounded really live and raw in places.....most pre-recorded 'as live' performances have a tuned/fiddled with sound to them...see this GMTV performance of Alex where she mimed, then compare it to Elephant and it sounds different...”

Mate, she was miming...end of. I expected it from a studio based telly show, so no biggy. However, if I was to see Alex live...and really live...I would expect totally live vocals.
Master Ozzy
25-02-2012
Originally Posted by miles19740:
“Mate, she was miming...end of.”

Mate, she wasn't miming...end of.

Quote:
“I expected it from a studio based telly show, so no biggy. However, if I was to see Alex live...and really live...I would expect totally live vocals.”

It's obvious to everyone who watched the performance, apart from you, that she wasn't miming. You comparing her to Cheryl Cole is also ridiculous.
miles19740
25-02-2012
Originally Posted by iseloid:
“GOD. You really are on it aren't you. Destroying one of the UKs best performers....

It was live too, so miming would be very very difficult. And she didn't. Listening back to it now, she's very pitchy in places.”

Listen, I like her studio recording of All Night Long. It is a good pop/dance/club track.

I am not out to "destroy" anyone. I don't care that much. What I am trying to do is highlight the difference between 'appearing LIVE' and 'LIVE proper'...unaided.

You can pretend that she was LIVE on Let's Dance...that is fine, but I can tell you, she was miming.
iseloid
25-02-2012
Originally Posted by miles19740:
“Excuses don't wash with me I am afraid.”

Ah...no excuses, simply a statement.
iseloid
25-02-2012
Originally Posted by miles19740:
“Listen, I like her studio recording of All Night Long. It is a good pop/dance/club track.

I am not out to "destroy" anyone. I don't care that much. What I am trying to do is highlight the difference between 'appearing LIVE' and 'LIVE proper'...unaided.

You can pretend that she was LIVE on Let's Dance...that is fine, but I can tell you, she was miming.”

She wasn't. Listen to it again. It was obvious as her live vocals did not mix with the autotuned ones in the song. If it was prerecorded, it would have been mixed perfectly.
miles19740
25-02-2012
Originally Posted by Zack06:
“No-one is destroying anything....I think certain people can't accept that Steps and certain other crappy pop acts can't cobble a live performance together, but Alex can manage decent choreography and decent live vocals with ease....

Nearly everyone here agrees it's live, and usually when miming singers do it to try to make themselves sound better....Alex was quite off in places...it sounded live to me...”

Clearly directed at me, so allow me to respond.

Steps mimed to during studio based telly shows between '97 and '01...however, they sang live on This Morning and other shows during the latter part of '11...post the 'reunion'. Anyone with a good ear could tell.

For me, Alex has a lot to prove. Yes she can dance and move. Can she dance, move and sing live?...for me, the jury is still out.

Tonight, she wasn't "pitchy" or anything else, because she was miming to a pre-recorded backing track.
miles19740
25-02-2012
Originally Posted by Boxfresh:
“Hate to break it to you, but Alex really can sing and dance Elephant live that good. Hard to believe, but she is that gifted.

She gave a performance at the Tickled Pink concert, where she did a lot of dance moves, sang the song almost to the same standard as the actual studio recording, and not one person thought she was miming. Here is the Tickled Pink performance;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbtYh47CvYo”

I would need to see it, and be there in person, to believe that it was live and true. I have been around long enough to know, and be aware of, the tricks of the trade I am afraid.

Alex was not live on 'Let's Dance...'. It is naive to belive otherwise, in my view.
miles19740
25-02-2012
Originally Posted by Boxfresh:
“...Alex has show the ability to sing to near studio quality and dance/move at the same time numerous times It's nothing new.. She was doing big routines on the X-Factor, and she'd never have been allowed to mime on the show. Like you said, she's basically in a class with Beyonce as one of the few mainstream artists who can sing live to near studio quality and move at the same time.

...But artists like Alex and Beyonce are an exception.”

BIB...really? Are you for real? Come on...I can't believe I have just read all this!
miles19740
25-02-2012
Originally Posted by iseloid:
“Yes, but she'd be perfect if it was recorded. She wasn't, in fact, she was very very very uncomfortable, and she was very pitchy, which is not like her at all. Her vocals don't work when mixed with autotuned ones (at the beginning). She was singing it all live, start to end.”

Oh dear...#realitycheck!

She was 'pitch perfect' and 'comfortable'...I wonder why?
Zack06
25-02-2012
Originally Posted by miles19740:
“BIB...really? Are you for real? Come on...I can't believe I have just read all this! ”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmI6syS1guo

Is she miming in this video? NO. Bored of all these 'she's just mimes' comments. :yawn::sleep:
miles19740
25-02-2012
Originally Posted by Master Ozzy:
“Mate, she wasn't miming...end of.

It's obvious to everyone who watched the performance, apart from you, that she wasn't miming. You comparing her to Cheryl Cole is also ridiculous.”

I am old enough and ugly enough to be able to tell the difference between 'miming' and totally 'live' vocals.

Wait until the 'Radio Edit' is released. Compare the 'Radio Edit' to the 'Let's Dance...' performance'. There will be no difference... guaranteed...although 'the fanatics' will try to convey a difference...
miles19740
25-02-2012
Originally Posted by Zack06:
“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmI6syS1guo

Is she miming in this video? NO. Bored of all these 'she's just mimes' comments. :yawn::sleep:”

Videos are all mimed to...as one would expect. Not even going to bother to watch.
Zack06
25-02-2012
Originally Posted by miles19740:
“Videos are all mimed to...as one would expect. Not even going to bother to watch.”

FAIL. Because I bet you saw the video, realised that it was a faultless live vocal and had nothing to say. It was a Songs Of Praise performance with a live orchestra in the Royal Albert Hall.....you can't get much more live than that.
MikePJB
25-02-2012
Originally Posted by miles19740:
“BIB...really? Are you for real? Come on...I can't believe I have just read all this! ”

You seem to have a very bad ear when it comes to know when people are singing live or not. Beyoncé ALWAYS sings live, so does Alex. You were accusing Rihanna of miming at the Brits the other night.
Jonesy88
25-02-2012
I liked it. Pretty good.
Pumpkin Soup
25-02-2012
Wow! I am really not a fan of the original version of this song (I find it generic), but this version is stunning If the "breathless" version is on the single release I will purchase this
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