Just been In touch with Loyds to reset my Internet banking password and have been told my IPad must have a virus as it was requesting account details....any suggestions on how to scan and remove any viruses?
Thanks
Chalky
Thanks
Chalky
IPad Virus
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Well something is clearly wrong as according to Lloyds I've been directed to a rogue site (via virus) as it requests account details that Lloyds never do over the net....
This sounds like URL re-direction. EIther a fake URL that looks very like the real one, or it exploits a browser security flaw.
Usually, the real website gets "passed through" - without the htttps encryption being directly attacked - but you're asked for some extra details NOT on the real website!
http://ipad.bigresource.com/Google-r...7lH7f2FtK.html
http://www.networkworld.com/news/201...ygn-apple.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNS_hijacking
I would have thought, it's just a matter of time until specific ipad malware, since people that own one tend to be well off !
Usually, the real website gets "passed through" - without the htttps encryption being directly attacked - but you're asked for some extra details NOT on the real website!
http://ipad.bigresource.com/Google-r...7lH7f2FtK.html
http://www.networkworld.com/news/201...ygn-apple.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNS_hijacking
I would have thought, it's just a matter of time until specific ipad malware, since people that own one tend to be well off !
Site was accessed by bookmark that I've been using for about 18 months, the tech guy suggested that this could have been hi-jacked to re direct to rogue web site....
Originally Posted by spiney2:
“I would have thought, it's just a matter of time until specific ipad malware, since people that own one tend to be well off !”
“I would have thought, it's just a matter of time until specific ipad malware, since people that own one tend to be well off !”
I think there's one already, called Wonga.
Originally Posted by Chalkuk:
“Site was accessed by bookmark that I've been using for about 18 months, the tech guy suggested that this could have been hi-jacked to re direct to rogue web site....”
“Site was accessed by bookmark that I've been using for about 18 months, the tech guy suggested that this could have been hi-jacked to re direct to rogue web site....”
They have no clue about what they are talking about.
Originally Posted by spiney2:
“I would have thought, it's just a matter of time until specific ipad malware, since people that own one tend to be well off !”
“I would have thought, it's just a matter of time until specific ipad malware, since people that own one tend to be well off !”
Well the Ipad is using IOS from Iphone from 2007. So no no Ipad viruses.
Originally Posted by linkinpark875:
“Well the Ipad is using IOS from Iphone from 2007. So no no Ipad viruses.”
“Well the Ipad is using IOS from Iphone from 2007. So no no Ipad viruses.”
if i thought you knew what you were talking about then i'd waste some of my time debating that with you, but i doubt you do so i won't.
Originally Posted by chenks:
“if i thought you knew what you were talking about then i'd waste some of my time debating that with you, but i doubt you do so i won't.”
“if i thought you knew what you were talking about then i'd waste some of my time debating that with you, but i doubt you do so i won't.”
Bottom line is no virus can get on IOS.
Originally Posted by linkinpark875:
“Bottom line is no virus can get on IOS.”
“Bottom line is no virus can get on IOS.”
which is what i said in the very first response.
it was your "Well the Ipad is using IOS from Iphone from 2007" that i was commenting on.
As others have said unless you have jail broke your iPad you cannot get a virus/Trojan as apple need to pre-approve every app.
Originally Posted by chenks:
“which is what i said in the very first response.
it was your "Well the Ipad is using IOS from Iphone from 2007" that i was commenting on.”
“which is what i said in the very first response.
it was your "Well the Ipad is using IOS from Iphone from 2007" that i was commenting on.”
Obviously it's been updated since 2007 but that's when it was launched.
It's naive to think that there won't be ipad viruses ONE DAY, when it's perfectly feasible to download stuff to it outside of the app store (and I'm not talking about Jailbreaking)
However, the symptoms the OP describes are not the work of a virus and the information sounds pretty suspect.
However, the symptoms the OP describes are not the work of a virus and the information sounds pretty suspect.
Originally Posted by Smerph:
“It's naive to think that there won't be ipad viruses ONE DAY, when it's perfectly feasible to download stuff to it outside of the app store (and I'm not talking about Jailbreaking).”
“It's naive to think that there won't be ipad viruses ONE DAY, when it's perfectly feasible to download stuff to it outside of the app store (and I'm not talking about Jailbreaking).”
what can a normal home user currently download and install/run on an ipad that hasn't came from the app store and without jailbreaking?
the only other application that can be installed on an ipad is one that is distributed by a developer for testing or in an environment where you specifically manually install an app via internal distribution - neither of those can be classed as a "virus".
Originally Posted by Smerph:
“It's naive to think that there won't be ipad viruses ONE DAY, when it's perfectly feasible to download stuff to it outside of the app store (and I'm not talking about Jailbreaking)
However, the symptoms the OP describes are not the work of a virus and the information sounds pretty suspect.”
“It's naive to think that there won't be ipad viruses ONE DAY, when it's perfectly feasible to download stuff to it outside of the app store (and I'm not talking about Jailbreaking)
However, the symptoms the OP describes are not the work of a virus and the information sounds pretty suspect.”
You can only download apps from the app store which apple have already checked. If an app in the future ever managed to slip through the process apple can remotely remove it from every iOS device.
Originally Posted by chenks:
“what can a normal home user currently download and install/run on an ipad that hasn't came from the app store and without jailbreaking?
the only other application that can be installed on an ipad is one that is distributed by a developer for testing or in an environment where you specifically manually install an app via internal distribution - neither of those can be classed as a "virus".”
“what can a normal home user currently download and install/run on an ipad that hasn't came from the app store and without jailbreaking?
the only other application that can be installed on an ipad is one that is distributed by a developer for testing or in an environment where you specifically manually install an app via internal distribution - neither of those can be classed as a "virus".”
You can download pdf files, images, videos, music and other file types onto the ipad without them being verified through the app store. A virus writer would only need to find an exploit in the pdf rendering engine which could be used to run arbitrary code inside of a malicious pdf. If they combined the exploit with a way to bypass the sandbox either through a buffer overflow or some other method then in theory it would be possible to install a virus onto the ipad and give it access to any sand boxed application.
Originally Posted by and101:
“You can download pdf files, images, videos, music and other file types onto the ipad without them being verified through the app store. A virus writer would only need to find an exploit in the pdf rendering engine which could be used to run arbitrary code inside of a malicious pdf. If they combined the exploit with a way to bypass the sandbox either through a buffer overflow or some other method then in theory it would be possible to install a virus onto the ipad and give it access to any sand boxed application.”
“You can download pdf files, images, videos, music and other file types onto the ipad without them being verified through the app store. A virus writer would only need to find an exploit in the pdf rendering engine which could be used to run arbitrary code inside of a malicious pdf. If they combined the exploit with a way to bypass the sandbox either through a buffer overflow or some other method then in theory it would be possible to install a virus onto the ipad and give it access to any sand boxed application.”
Even if you did have a virus scanner it wouldn't help in this instance.
Also this could happen to any device such as the PS3 or Xbox but its so incredibly unlikely.
The "JailbreakMe" Jailbreak for iOS actually made use of a PDF vulnerability in Safari.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JailbreakMe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JailbreakMe
Lots of reports that there have been viruses found on iPads .....
and also lots of companies selling iPad virus scanners .....
Historically Macs had fewer viruses because creating a Mac virus would have had a much lower impact (far fewer users).
and also lots of companies selling iPad virus scanners .....
Historically Macs had fewer viruses because creating a Mac virus would have had a much lower impact (far fewer users).
Originally Posted by Stuart_h:
“Lots of reports that there have been viruses found on iPads .....
and also lots of companies selling iPad virus scanners .....
”
“Lots of reports that there have been viruses found on iPads .....
and also lots of companies selling iPad virus scanners .....
”
Links? to these "lots of reports" and don't go posting multiple links to the same one, all must be different threats.
If you owned an iPad you would obviously do a search on the app store and find there is bugger all virus scanners, so your claim to "lots of companies selling iPad virus scanners" is just more crock that you spout about apple on a daily basis on this forum
Originally Posted by Stuart_h:
“Lots of reports that there have been viruses found on iPads .....
and also lots of companies selling iPad virus scanners .....
Historically Macs had fewer viruses because creating a Mac virus would have had a much lower impact (far fewer users).”
“Lots of reports that there have been viruses found on iPads .....
and also lots of companies selling iPad virus scanners .....
Historically Macs had fewer viruses because creating a Mac virus would have had a much lower impact (far fewer users).”
Sources?
OSX isn't a sandbox, so you can install Apps or Trojans from anywhere.
iOS has no virus scanners as apple checks for things like that before apps are approved to the app store.
Originally Posted by Gormond:
“Sources?
OSX isn't a sandbox, so you can install Apps or Trojans from anywhere.
iOS has no virus scanners as apple checks for things like that before apps are approved to the app store.”
“Sources?
OSX isn't a sandbox, so you can install Apps or Trojans from anywhere.
iOS has no virus scanners as apple checks for things like that before apps are approved to the app store.”
i remember reading articles but a quick google ...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43729378...d-iphone-ipad/
https://discussions.apple.com/thread...art=0&tstart=0
like i said i remember reading an article (i think on the BBC). As more an more people use iOS then it will become more tempting to virus writers.
And its all very well saying that everything is checked by Apple but for some virus creaters surely thats where the challenge - and the fun (in their own warped world) - comes from.
You can only search for a virus if you know what you are looking for.... new methods of screwing peoples machines are found all the time.
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