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Old 25-02-2012, 12:04
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They started off with a classic number one single which came from a really good first album.Sadly, since then, they've gone into a steady decline and now turn out dirge after dreary dirge.
They've become the Frankie Goes To Hollywood of their generation.
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Old 25-02-2012, 12:11
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They started off with a classic number one single which came from a really good first album.Sadly, since then, they've gone into a steady decline and now turn out dirge after dreary dirge.
They've become the Frankie Goes To Hollywood of their generation.
I couldn't disagree more.They've progressed beyond songs about club bouncers and taxis and getting drunk and matured into a really interesting band. There's nothing worse than a band repeating themselves.
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Old 25-02-2012, 12:14
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They started off with a classic number one single which came from a really good first album.Sadly, since then, they've gone into a steady decline and now turn out dirge after dreary dirge.
They've become the Frankie Goes To Hollywood of their generation.:(
I had not realised they had become required listening for gentlemen who know what grows in their garden?
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Old 25-02-2012, 12:20
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I couldn't disagree more.They've progressed beyond songs about club bouncers and taxis and getting drunk and matured into a really interesting band. There's nothing worse than a band repeating themselves.
As a fan you're obvioulsy entitled to that opinion.
However, record sales show that an awful lot of thier fans have given up on them. The singles barely dent the charts now and their albums bomb out the top ten after a week or so.
I agree about bands repeating themselves and stop progressing [Oasis a classic example of that] but where's the energy and excitement they had early on?
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Old 25-02-2012, 12:21
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I couldn't disagree more.They've progressed beyond songs about club bouncers and taxis and getting drunk and matured into a really interesting band. There's nothing worse than a band repeating themselves.

^^^ This. I'm sure if they were still bringing WPSIATWIN type stuff now they are rich and famous they would get it in the neck also and rightly so imo. They have shown themselves to be imo one of the most versatile and forward thinking bands of the last 10 years. And Suck It And See is a brilliant album. They do of course remain a huge live draw (and rightly so as they are superb live).

Wiith regard to sales, guitar music is out at the moment, no question. But they still have an enviable chart record all the same.
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Old 25-02-2012, 12:31
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^^^ This. I'm sure if they were still bringing WPSIATWIN type stuff now they are rich and famous they would get it in the neck also and rightly so imo. They have shown themselves to be imo one of the most versatile and forward thinking bands of the last 10 years. And Suck It And See is a brilliant album. They do of course remain a huge live draw (and rightly so as they are superb live).

Wiith regard to sales, guitar music is out at the moment, no question. But they still have an enviable chart record all the same.
Totally agree, especially the bit in bold. The musical climate has changed from when they released their debut, not to mention they had the internet buzz about them. So no, I doubt they will ever reach the commercial dizzy heights of before, I imagine there were a lot of fairweather fans. I myself as a fan though could not be happier they were brave and bold in their choices and didn't take the easy route of repeating their early sound. And to be honest, the amount of records sold is not an indication of the quality of musical output.
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Old 25-02-2012, 12:33
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As a fan you're obvioulsy entitled to that opinion.
However, record sales show that an awful lot of thier fans have given up on them. The singles barely dent the charts now and their albums bomb out the top ten after a week or so.
I agree about bands repeating themselves and stop progressing [Oasis a classic example of that] but where's the energy and excitement they had early on?
With regards to single sales, you could pick any band that broke out in the mid noughties and compare their sales to now and I doubt they'd be consistent. I remember a time when Kaiser Chiefs and Keane were everywhere but the current chart trend doesn't favour them right now. It'll swing their way at some point though, it always does.
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Old 25-02-2012, 14:58
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They're on a two year break now I think
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Old 25-02-2012, 15:40
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I think they've improved, musically.

They don't really care about commercial success, they're in it for the music. And are still a very popular live act so... No at everything you said.
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Old 25-02-2012, 16:47
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As a fan you're obvioulsy entitled to that opinion.
However, record sales show that an awful lot of thier fans have given up on them. The singles barely dent the charts now and their albums bomb out the top ten after a week or so.
I agree about bands repeating themselves and stop progressing [Oasis a classic example of that] but where's the energy and excitement they had early on?
Sales don't really indicate how good someone's music is.
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Old 25-02-2012, 20:16
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I was never really fan of Arctic Monkeys so i am happy the amount of exposure they have is well reduced. On their first few releases i always felt they were totally totally over hyped and i had heard so much about them befor ei heard the music and i was disapointed with their music.
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Old 25-02-2012, 20:16
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I used to dislike the Arctic Monkeys a lot. I lumped them in with all that tedious indie crap that NME loved a few years ago.

I bought Suck It And See when it came out though, and I'm happy to admit I was wrong. It's one of my favourite albums of last year. Having now listened to all their music, I've developed a lot of respect for them. They really are a band that has progressed, and not stuck to one thing. Whatever People Say, SIAS and Humbug could all have been written by completely different bands, yet there's still something about them that very AM's.

I'd love to see them live too. I went to one of their gigs a couple of years ago, but I only stayed for the support band.
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Old 25-02-2012, 21:49
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I love their 1st 2 albums but their change of style after that doesn't really do it for me.
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Old 25-02-2012, 22:11
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Music not very inspiring, singing not that great, lyrics quite often embarassing & on the dumb side.The '60's pastiche in their music is very much out dated (Suck it & see).There's no enthusiasm in their music anymore - that was their saving grace to start with.
Only for people who like pop-rock or beat inspired music.True rock fans are not interested in this band.Their music is far more commercially oriented (pop) than it was to begin with - there is no real progress in their music apart from the fact that they have a cleaner, slightly more polished sound now.There are loads of pop-rock bands that have a more polished sound than they do though - so it's not a great achievement.Basically the band is hanging on to the popularity it has gained & gradually fading away.IMO - & probably the majority of rock fans - excluding crossover pop / pop-rock fans i.e. people who are inclined to listen to Coldplays latest album (fairly large group of people I admit).
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Old 25-02-2012, 22:48
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Music not very inspiring, singing not that great, lyrics quite often embarassing & on the dumb side.The '60's pastiche in their music is very much out dated (Suck it & see).There's no enthusiasm in their music anymore - that was their saving grace to start with.
Only for people who like pop-rock or beat inspired music.True rock fans are not interested in this band.Their music is far more commercially oriented (pop) than it was to begin with - there is no real progress in their music apart from the fact that they have a cleaner, slightly more polished sound now.There are loads of pop-rock bands that have a more polished sound than they do though - so it's not a great achievement.Basically the band is hanging on to the popularity it has gained & gradually fading away.IMO - & probably the majority of rock fans - excluding crossover pop / pop-rock fans i.e. people who are inclined to listen to Coldplays latest album (fairly large group of people I admit).
What's a "true rock fan" and why do you presume to speak for them all?!
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Old 25-02-2012, 22:50
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guitar music is out at the moment, no question.
Rubbish.Heavy rock / metal has the biggest combined fan base of any broad based genre of music.Heavy rock / metal has so many sub-genres & divided fan bases within those sub-genres bands rarely get chart attention apart from such bands like Foo Fighters (yes, they aren't doing anything new now) etc.Heavy rock / metal fans are generally more loyal to their bands.
Any form of pop music tends to galvanise audiences together - when they are at the peak of their popularity (within the sub-genre of pop they exist or even gain a wider pop fan base i.e. Coldplay) if an act gains popularity.It doesn't guarantee longevity though as pop audiences are very fickle.
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Old 25-02-2012, 22:51
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Old 25-02-2012, 23:26
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What's a "true rock fan" and why do you presume to speak for them all?!
Suck it & see is a pop-rock album.It is a fusion between rock & pop.Surely you have to admit that Not saying some that some 'rock' fans don't listen to the occasional pop-rock album.They usually have a take it or leave it attitude to pop-rock though.
Pop-rock does have a fairly large fanbase but there is usually not more than 20 ?? commercially successful pop-rock bands that exist at any one time.Pop-rock bands tend to come & go.There are hundreds of moderatively successful bands who advocate the true rock ethic (you may call it rock snobbery though).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_music#Pop_rock
http://www.allmusic.com/explore/styl...-pop-rock-d419
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Old 25-02-2012, 23:56
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Suck it & see is a pop-rock album.It is a fusion between rock & pop.Surely you have to admit that Not saying some that some 'rock' fans don't listen to the occasional pop-rock album.They usually have a take it or leave it attitude to pop-rock though.
Pop-rock does have a fairly large fanbase but there is usually not more than 20 ?? commercially successful pop-rock bands that exist at any one time.Pop-rock bands tend to come & go.There are hundreds of moderatively successful bands who advocate the true rock ethic (you may call it rock snobbery though).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_music#Pop_rock
http://www.allmusic.com/explore/styl...-pop-rock-d419
The true rock ethic! It just sounds like something I would've said when I was 14, and a wannabe music snob. I'm over caring about that nonsense, or tedious labels. Music is music, I like what I like and that's it.
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Old 26-02-2012, 02:58
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i didn't mind the last album. although, i still prefer their earlier material. its good though that they mix up their sound a bit and don't just stick to the same sound. its impressive that all their albums have reached #1, so they seem to have a steady fan base out there.
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Old 26-02-2012, 04:54
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Wow I remember when they were huge in 2006.
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Old 26-02-2012, 07:38
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Wow I remember when they were huge in 2006.
They are even bigger now, in the summer they played 2 sold out shows at the Don Valley Bowl to promote Suck it and See, then in November there tour at indoor arena's such as the O2 sold out in hours.

They have changed since the early days rather than churn out the same old sound, like say Bon Jovi or Foo Fighters have been doing for decades.

The change some might not think is for the better but at least they have evolved.

Just as The Beatles and U2 have done in the past.
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Old 26-02-2012, 07:45
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They are even bigger now
not from a commercial point of view, like you know, selling records. their last album only recently got its gold certification, whereas, in 2006 their album went 3 x platinum. i like the band and i agree they haven't stood still progression wise. however, they not selling music like they used to.
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Old 26-02-2012, 07:52
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Maybe not in record sales but worldwide ten times more people are buying tickets for their gigs, when the first album came out I saw them at The Pyramid in Portsmouth which holds about a 1000 people.

But you are right on one level, then again Whatever was the biggest selling debut album of all time, always going to be hard to top that.
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Old 26-02-2012, 07:58
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it was the fastest selling début album, not the biggest selling début. i agree though, they are packing out shows and i caught a couple of festivals they did last year on tv. they were ace.
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