Todd was likeable, Andy doesnt come over asikeable,and Todd was never rude to the judges like Andy is

That's OK then - everyone is comparing Andy's skating to Sam's but now it's all about the likability factor.

Guess that shows that last night Andy had enough fans that found him likable to keep him in the contest.

The most interesting thingabout him is that it talks like a moron in real life. It's not acting in Corrie at all.

It's very similar to Anthony Cotton in IAC: he came across poorly and was rude and arrogant but got to the final four and topped the voting quite a few nights!

Just shows how much sway being part of a big brand is, whereas Chemmy with her limited fan base hasn't been getting the votes despite being better than Andy and improving.

I can sort of understand why people vote for the weakest skater if he/she is someone they really like, but fail to understand how anyone would be voting for Andy for his "likeability" because, if he has any, he manages to keep it well hidden.

Most of the professionals in the show are from other countries,a few are british. Do you think the rinks exist just for school trips? They wouldnt make much money then. The local rink is open and running from around 6 am and it is working and busy until around 10pm every night. They also have a hockey team who practice after 10pm on some nights.

I guess you dont know much about skating then?

andy w is a sulking little boy

I do like Andy, but I have not voted for him , I vote for who I think is the best skater on the night, last night it was Matthew and Chemmy...

dont make me laugh

I rarely watch Corrie. It's usually only when I visit or invite corrie fans to mine that I might see it because they ask. I didn't know which character Andy plays until this series started. I'm neither a fan nor a hater and I can't be bothered putting my blood pressure at risk just because he hasn't been in the skate off.

He seems OK and nice enough to me. Not especially nice though nor especially awful.

I doubit if voters are trying to keep his partner in. How many had heard of her before DOI?

Wherever they are from, the DoI pairs will have a "home" rink for training during the week. Naturally, that home rink is likely to support them. Unless you imagine they all train in the ITV studio

You can try to belittle someone's views just because they don't correspond with your own, but you really need to read properly what it is they wrote if you want it to be effective. No where did I suggest rinks exist only for school trips and it is absurd to suggest that I might think that.

That the majority of voters won't have skated since their school days is very probable as, according to NISA, there are only 64 rinks in the whole of the GB & NI and nearly a third of those are in Scotland. Most of us, like Ray Quinn, do not have access to a local rink!

Ofcourse, the more pertinent question which your theory poses is, are people who skate (recreationally or otherwise), more likely to vote than viewers who don't? I have no idea about that one, but if they were more likely to pick up the phone, I suspect they would be a damn sight more discerning than you give them credit for.

Don't know how many people skate regularly at Milton Keynes but am certain the number will be dwarfedby the numbers who watch Corrie. Also just as Corrie fans won't all be voting for Andy I'm sure there will be plenty of MK skaters who won't be voting for them also.

Added to that this is Vicky's 1st year in DOI & whilst Matt may not be British his fanbase will be far bigger than hers. The amount of votes for Vicky aren't making much difference.

I did think that last night Andy was criticised for things he didn't control, like the choreography and characterisation (something I know others feel has happened to Jennifer, for example). For me they both improved last night, the judges may have had their own views on his skating and portrayal but it did sound a bit like they factored in the nature of the routine rather a lot in Andy's feedback. I suspect they felt he was the weakest link going forward and marked him accordingly but perhaps the nature of their critique caused some viewer/voter backlash?

I think you're over estimating this to be honest. I can't imagine that people who work at Milton Keynes Ice Rink would carry that much clout, there's nowhere near enough of them to make a difference to the voting figures.

People are voting for Andy because he plays "lovable" Kirk in Corrie, no other reason.

Hes getting through because people are voting for Vicky Ogden? LOL ok then

More like the his CS clique getting up to some shameless plugging of him on twitter irrespective of how bad he really is.

I hope they are proud of themselves that two good skaters have gone because of them. Time for them to remove the blinkers and the rose coloured specs they are all wearing

Andy must go- and I hope Kati is the one to decide his fate after the rudeness he has subjected her to

The thing is Todd Carty was funny. Yes he was an awful skater but he had a good sense of humour and was obviously enjoying himself. He was actually one of the highlights of the tour that year as his routine had the crowd in uproar. You could see he wasn't taking it seriously and people accepted that.


Whereas Andy doesn't even seem to be enjoying himself. He isn't as bad as Todd (now that would be something!) but he's not entertaining to watch and appears to be arrogant.

I know it's only a tv show and in the great scheme of things it shouldn't matter but I don't like injustice! I also don't want to see him on the tour which I have paid my hard earned money for.

Heaven forbid if he won, it would be the end of the show.

Edit: meant to say, I don't think people voting for Vicky would have a huge impact as all the pros will have the same publicity at their local rinks, and their own fans.

I absolutely understand why some people like to vote for the weaker skaters in the competition. Johnson was one of my favourite contestants last year, despite the fact he wasn't very good. I just really don't like Andy's attitude. The other contestants try to take on board what the judges ask of them and he just seems to do whatever he wants. It is possible to challenge what the judges say without sounding so rude. I hope he goes next week.

Yeah like the EE fans kept Todd Carty in. (oops I forgot he's likable, so that's OK)

Like the Loose Women fans kept Colleen Nolan in. She isn't likable so booooo!

Like the Emmerdale hung onto Emily Symons. She was pretty and charming so yeah she could stay.

Despite Greg Rusedski's winning smile he wasn't a winner on ice but made the last 5, not to mention Kerry Katona who also outstayed her welcome according to some.

Johnson BeHarry wasn't a fantastic skater but he was a fantastic man and it was his bravery, effort and modesty that kept him in until the last 4. Did he have a right to be there. In fact did any of them have a right to be there given your assumption that only you are qualified to make a judgement and only you are qualified to set the criteria?

Some no hopers last a long time due to their fan base and it's always been the same.. Who are you to question their motives?

Chris and Jayne have choreographed some fantastic routines over the years and no one is unrealistic to imagine Andy taking on the same routine as Matt for example, but the fact is it wasn't Andy who chose the music, he wasn't responsible for the choreography nor did he set the mood. That was down to C&J.

Perhaps if the judges said "I'd have liked Chris and Jayne to have given you a more upbeat number and given you the chance to bring it to life, instead of the bland routine you were landed with," C&J would give us an explanation of how they choose the music, the routine and emotions they're trying to get from the contestants.

But that's never going to happen.

I honestly don't think he has the acting range for anything other than a 'comedy' performance. The other contestants have been given slow numbers that dragged a little and managed to make something of them. I agree he can't be criticised for the choreography but I haven't really enjoyed any of his performances for a good couple of weeks now. It's just my opinion that he's the weakest of the remaining contestants and should be the next to go. It would also be nice to have a show where I'm not subjected to his whinging.

Fair enough you found Todd funny, I didn't. Yes the first time he careered into the ice tunnel it was amusing, but then they laboured the point with routines that were deliberately calculated to capture the maverick vote. I almost went on the tour that year, but when I saw he was on it I saved my money.

I can't for the life of me see an 'injustice' in what is no more than a bit of light entertainment and don't worry he won't be there at the end. But as long as viewers want to vote for him he has every right to be around.

btw I don't watch Corrie and I don't vote for Andy. But I do take exception to some of the poisonous vitriol dripping from the pens of those who'd like to dictate our voting habits.

With respect you have missed my point and there is no need to get uppity with me

I think you might be right, in fact I think you probably are, but unless he's given the chance to either sink or swim with a decent routine we'll never know. As for being next to go, the public will decide that one and if the Andy hating, bashing comments I've seen on this forum have been repeated on facebook, twitter etc. then I reckon the backlash against the haters could last more than a bit longer.

I do wish Chris and Jayne were called to account now and again. I'd like to know why they allowed Jennifer to rely on her exquisite performance skills but neglected to include basic skating in her routines. When she had to do it, she did. Not brilliantly but she brought it off without a mistake and without crashing to the ice as I had feared. As a result her confidence grew and last night's performance was a massive improvement. Still not brilliant but good enough to wonder how much better she might be if C&J had given her the chance to hone her basic skills.

She really doesn't need them to show off her incredible balance and flexibility, she can do that all by herself.

Last weekend my mum was talking about how she hopes that Andy goes soon because his attitude is terrible. I really don't think it's a one-week turnaround.