[Corwin]

The J.J. Abrams/Eric Kripke post apocalyptic drama Revolution has been picked up to Series by NBC.

[Snozzcumber]

Space colonisation and first contact with dangeous new life forms. Sci-fi horror in a grim, dark setting rather than plush, resource-rich environments everywhere.

Less Star Trek, more Aliens & Prometheus.

[T.K. Mazin]

Originally Posted by Corwin

The J.J. Abrams/Eric Kripke post apocalyptic drama Revolution has been picked up to Series by NBC.

Cool. Where can we expect to see the pilot? Around September 2013 I'm guessing?

[T.K. Mazin]

Originally Posted by T.K. Mazin

Cool. Where can we expect to see the pilot? Around September 2013 I'm guessing?

Sorry I meant September 2012?

[T.K. Mazin]

I would also like to see FlashForward done right. Such a great concept... such terrible execution. Maybe they could reboot the show with better writers in a few years time on a cable network where it has more of a chance of surviving.

[Corwin]

Originally Posted by T.K. Mazin

Sorry I meant September 2012?

Probably.

Cast photo here.

[MrQuike]

Originally Posted by T.K. Mazin

Me too. I would like to see that concept mastered on TV as there are so many exciting possibilities. I think Outcasts could've improved if the feckin' BBC gave the show another season. I mean the writing wasn't all bad IMHO and had some intriguing elements. Terra Nova on the other hand was just plain dismal as you said.

Agreed, especially about Outcast. It was worth another series at least.

There's so much good Sci Fi written and such a dire lack of it on the telly. SyFy channel - more like Fantasy channel.

I'm still waiting for the Beebs Philip K Dick - "The Man in the High Castle" 4 part adaption to put in an appearance.

[madeleymade]

I like antthology shows. Night Gallery, Tales of the Unexpected, the Outer Limits, the 8os Twilight Zone, Hammer House of Horror, I'd like to see a weekly long-running show that would throw up weirdness every week. Perhaps not an anthology. I really wish Terra Nova was an Irwin Allen production imagine.

Episode One: The Journey, family get transported to prehistoric time.
Episode Two: The Smugglers, prehistoric intelligent mutants infiltrate the society.

[paulschapman]

Originally Posted by T.K. Mazin

Me too. I would like to see that concept mastered on TV as there are so many exciting possibilities. I think Outcasts could've improved if the feckin' BBC gave the show another season. I mean the writing wasn't all bad IMHO and had some intriguing elements. Terra Nova on the other hand was just plain dismal as you said.

Outcasts was a missed opportunity - still think the first mistake was setting years after the founding of the colony.

Of course off the top of my head you have a choice of Legacy of Herot or Dragons Dawn - both of which would have been far better than Outcasts ended up being.

[T.K. Mazin]

Originally Posted by MrQuike

Agreed, especially about Outcast. It was worth another series at least.

There's so much good Sci Fi written and such a dire lack of it on the telly. SyFy channel - more like Fantasy channel.

I'm still waiting for the Beebs Philip K Dick - "The Man in the High Castle" 4 part adaption to put in an appearance.

Haha good to see I'm not alone here regarding Outcasts. It wasn't the greatest show, but it had its shining moments and enough of an intriguing storyline that could've been improved upon in a new season. It's a shame the BBC has become like a US network nowadays and seem so obssessed with ratings. But hey ho.

BIB: Agreed!

[T.K. Mazin]

Originally Posted by paulschapman

Outcasts was a missed opportunity - still think the first mistake was setting years after the founding of the colony.

Of course off the top of my head you have a choice of Legacy of Herot or Dragons Dawn - both of which would have been far better than Outcasts ended up being.

So you think it would've been better if Outcasts started just after they arrived on the new planet? I actually do agree with you Paul, but at the same time I can see why they jumped 10 years or so in the future, because they would've have to have shown how all the infrastructure for everyday life is set up from scratch - houses, military HQ, water/electricity supply, government and whatnot. I guess it might've been too much to show all of this and they possibly might've gone over-budget. But I agree though, it would've been interesting to see it from the beginning, especially because one of the more intriguing plots in the show involved the colonists being attacked by an alien virus which happened when they first arrived on Carpathia - that could've been the pilot episode .

BIB: Yeah, it would be good to see them adapted for TV. Trouble is finding writers who understand them enough to stay true to them. TV Writers in the modern era do like to chop and change things more than ever.

[T.K. Mazin]

Originally Posted by madeleymade

I like antthology shows. Night Gallery, Tales of the Unexpected, the Outer Limits, the 8os Twilight Zone, Hammer House of Horror, I'd like to see a weekly long-running show that would throw up weirdness every week. Perhaps not an anthology. I really wish Terra Nova was an Irwin Allen production imagine.

Episode One: The Journey, family get transported to prehistoric time.
Episode Two: The Smugglers, prehistoric intelligent mutants infiltrate the society.

Nice. I like anthology shows too. I did like Twilight Zone as a kid back in the day and was often scared to death by it lol . I never did listen to my parents' advice to not watch stuff that were too adult for me .

[Johnbee]

< I'd like a sci fi show that has no token minority races, no token young kids or token eye candy. One with a firm foundation on hard science and fact but extrapolated sensibly.

I can't even think of one that has been like this yet >

Oh what a pity you missed it first time around. Never mind, you can buy a boxed set for about £160 I think, and watch all 125 or so episodes, so you have a treat in store. The show is called Lost and has no tokens at all. Of course there is a large cast and they have to have varied lives so all sorts are covered.

Of course if you just want Aryan races you had better watch the History channel and see what happened to like minded people.

[T.K. Mazin]

Originally Posted by T.K. Mazin

I would also like to see FlashForward done right. Such a great concept... such terrible execution. Maybe they could reboot the show with better writers in a few years time on a cable network where it has more of a chance of surviving.

Out of boredom, I actually sat down and wrote down loads of notes of how I would approach a rebooted FlashForward series on cable. Being a student writer, I'd like to think I have some decent ideas going here, so I've decided I'm gonna write a full series bible and send it to ABC's headquarters in America . They can have it free. Probably wouldn't get any response, but I don't mind either way . I just thought if I'm gonna spend time writing a bible for it, then I might as well just send it to the people who own the rights to FlashForward in the hope that the series gets rebooted with better writers.

Anyways, time to get back to my own stories . I've got a nice little post-apocalyptic sci-fi series of my own cooking .

[Face Of Jack]

I'm getting the box-set of 60's "Lost In Space" next month for my birthday. Haven't seen it since I was a kid!

Would love to see something basic like that back on TV. A family, and certain friends (and maybe a nasty villain aboard!) set out into space (for whatever reason) - and suddenly get propulsed through a wormhole and end up....well lost in space!
(I don't mean anything like that crappy film they made either!!) I want a nice family show for everyone!

[T.K. Mazin]

Originally Posted by Face Of Jack

I'm getting the box-set of 60's "Lost In Space" next month for my birthday. Haven't seen it since I was a kid!

Would love to see something basic like that back on TV. A family, and certain friends (and maybe a nasty villain aboard!) set out into space (for whatever reason) - and suddenly get propulsed through a wormhole and end up....well lost in space!
(I don't mean anything like that crappy film they made either!!) I want a nice family show for everyone!

Sounds good, Face Of Jack!

I wouldn't mind seeing a show like that at all. Would be fun to watch that's for sure .

[Face Of Jack]

Originally Posted by T.K. Mazin

Sounds good, Face Of Jack!

I wouldn't mind seeing a show like that at all. Would be fun to watch that's for sure .

That's what I mean. I'm no prude (I'm 50!) - but instead of all these shows that are on now - sex, violence etc.....why not just have a straightforward Sci-Fi series? Bit of action, fighting, romance, etc.....
If I want to see the naughty stuff - I can watch other videos!

[5th Horseman]

A Blake's 7 reboot.

[year 1957]

The time tunnel 1970 show i think, done by some one like HBO.

[brangdon]

Originally Posted by T.K. Mazin

Out of boredom, I actually sat down and wrote down loads of notes of how I would approach a rebooted FlashForward series on cable. Being a student writer, I'd like to think I have some decent ideas going here, so I've decided I'm gonna write a full series bible and send it to ABC's headquarters in America

I felt the problem with FlashForward was the characters. And not even how they were defined, but the details of script, direction and acting. I don't think it could be fixed with a bible.

The plot and pacing were fine. Much better than Lost, for example. It raised questions, answered them and raised new questions, and moved on at a fair clip. The basic characters ought to have worked, too. The chap who saw his dead daughter back alive. The wife who saw herself being unfaithful. It ought to have worked.

[T.K. Mazin]

Originally Posted by brangdon

I felt the problem with FlashForward was the characters. And not even how they were defined, but the details of script, direction and acting. I don't think it could be fixed with a bible.

The plot and pacing were fine. Much better than Lost, for example. It raised questions, answered them and raised new questions, and moved on at a fair clip. The basic characters ought to have worked, too. The chap who saw his dead daughter back alive. The wife who saw herself being unfaithful. It ought to have worked.

I totally agree with you, Brangdon. The characters were the central problem of FlashForward as they were very under-developed and unlikeable a lot of the time IMO. Which is why I came up with a totally new cast of characters with the exception of Demetri, Lloyd Simcoe and Mark Benford whom I reworked into more likeable characters. I kept Simon as well as I thought he was the best character on the show, so no need to rework him. Obviously the acting and dialogue wasn't the greatest in regards to these characters (with the exception of Simon), but this can be fixed with better writers and actors in a reboot.

But I also felt the overarching storyline was a bit weak at times and I felt some aspects of the concept wasn't addressed, hence my reason to create a bible. Using the Schrödinger's cat theory as reference, the fact that the characters had seen the flashforward should mean that they have ability to make sure the vision doesn't come true or at least change a part of it. This was never really addressed on the show. The characters seemed to be resigned to their fates, rather than trying to actively change them and exercise their freewill. Additionally, I felt the whole conspiracy angle with the Mysterious Bad Guys behind the Global Blackout was done in a clumsy way and felt quite contrived to me IMHO. At times, It felt like a parody of conspiracy-themed shows of the past due to the cliche dialogue. So I reworked all of this as well .

BIB: Definitely. I might've had some problems with the plot, but I had no problems with the pacing. FlashForward certainly did a better job than Lost at answering questions and answering them satisfyingly

[Sniffle774]

Originally Posted by 5th Horseman

A Blake's 7 reboot.

Hell yeah.

Also, new version of Sapphire and Steel.

[T.K. Mazin]

Originally Posted by Sniffle774

Hell yeah.

Also, new version of Sapphire and Steel.

Definitely. Would love to see that and a Blake 7 reboot .

[T.K. Mazin]

What do you guys think about an "Inception"-style TV show about dreams? I already discussed this with another poster who liked the idea, but I want to see more views about it. I don't think we've had many TV shows about dreams, if at all. So it could be very interesting if done right.

[brangdon]

Originally Posted by T.K. Mazin

What do you guys think about an "Inception"-style TV show about dreams?

It depends on whether you can find enough stories against that background. My instinct is that once you've seen Inception, you've already seen most of the ideas such a series would explore.

I could be wrong; I am not creative in the way script-writers are. I would probably have said the same about Terminator, for example. It turned out T:TSCC was mining quite rich seams, including the future war, Cameron (and other robots) learning to be human, John Connor learning to be a leader, Sarah balancing the needs of the war with her need to be a mother, and so forth. Even so, it got cancelled after two seasons, and that happened arguably because it didn't have enough material. Even its fans admit it sagged a little in the middle.

Dollhouse is another example, where it turned out there was a technology journey from the initial high-tech brothel to the Epitaph One scenario, with lots of human interest along the way. It seemed to me that that too was mined out by the end of the second season.

Where-as with Firefly, I'd argue, there wasn't a whole lot of "story", and it was all about the characters. Perhaps you saying "Inception" is like Joss saying "space-western", and it's the characters you've not mentioned that will make it worth watching.

That said, I'm not keen on shows that claim to be SF but are really mostly soap opera.