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Results:Do you own 21 by Adele?
Yes
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No
173 (54.75%)
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Do you own 'Adele - 21'?
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silentNate
28-02-2012
Originally Posted by Hav_mor91:
“As is attacking someone for being a supposed chav as they don't speak in Received Pronunciation and put on a simpering smile for all and sundry what a crime to be who you are

read the original post from GL hypocrisy does not become you ”

I would never use such an awful term as 'chav' so I think you've got the wrong poster
Hav_mor91
28-02-2012
Originally Posted by geordielady:
“Well if she wants respect from the general public she has to show respect to them first and she certainly has not done that over the last few weeks.”

What do you mean she stuck her finger up at the brits after being interrupted during a speech when she was saying how proud of being British she was and how proud she was to fly the flag to me that shows a level of humility rather than the usual tosh of tears and thanking God as is usual at awards speech or is it akin to the fact she speaks in a London accent.

Please enlighten me further on her awful behavior has she mugged any grannies shot anyone ignored her fanbase was she last soon shooting up on a park bench as i recall no i find Adele to be a very down to earth person for someone of her status

And no silentnate that was in reference to the post before in which someone was attacking someone for their percived bad behavior was just bringing it to your attention as you called someone Juvenile for mentioning Taylor's sex life and i thought it to be hypocritical but i assume it was an error as you missed the post before
geordielady
29-02-2012
Originally Posted by Hav_mor91:
“What do you mean she stuck her finger up at the brits after being interrupted during a speech when she was saying how proud of being British she was and how proud she was to fly the flag to me that shows a level of humility rather than the usual tosh of tears and thanking God as is usual at awards speech or is it akin to the fact she speaks in a London accent.

Please enlighten me further on her awful behavior has she mugged any grannies shot anyone ignored her fanbase was she last soon shooting up on a park bench as i recall no i find Adele to be a very down to earth person for someone of her status

And no silentnate that was in reference to the post before in which someone was attacking someone for their percived bad behavior was just bringing it to your attention as you called someone Juvenile for mentioning Taylor's sex life and i thought it to be hypocritical but i assume it was an error as you missed the post before ”

For an artist in the spotlight her behaviour is shocking, i know your a massive fan of hers but no amount of pretending her behavious is ok will change the facts that everyone can see. Success can do many things to an artist, its clear she is struggling with it, but surely her management e.t.c really are the problem as they appear to let her continue to do it unchecked.
All she is doing is going down the road to oblivion that will see her get the same reputation as many of the other tin pot chart pop artists.

The saying form is temporary class is permenant applies here.
Hav_mor91
29-02-2012
Originally Posted by geordielady:
“For an artist in the spotlight her behaviour is shocking, i know your a massive fan of hers but no amount of pretending her behavious is ok will change the facts that everyone can see.”

Thing is Gl i'm a massive fan of 19 and not 21 i think 19 was personally robbed but am just happy of her success because she worked hard and is normal.

The way i gauge her behaviour is she is never photographed drunk falling from Clubs she is rarely interviewed is not into hard drugs and only smokes which i do too doesn't make me a bad person nor does it her.

Just because she isn't polished or refined and says what she thinks and acts like any normal 23 year old is that somewhat detrimental to her would you rather she acted all respectable and false just because she is famous would you change who you were your accent your personality because you happened to be famous the fact she is who she is is part of her appeal she isn't middle class false or anything other than Adele hence why so many like her.some people won't but thats fine too but to attack her as though she is some horrendous being corrupting our youth and giving us Brits a bad name is unfair and based on pure dislike and borderline contempt for her.

There are far worse people out there she is tame compared to the likes of Rihanna.
minikievs
29-02-2012
Originally Posted by geordielady:
“For an artist in the spotlight her behaviour is shocking, i know your a massive fan of hers but no amount of pretending her behavious is ok will change the facts that everyone can see. Success can do many things to an artist, its clear she is struggling with it, but surely her management e.t.c really are the problem as they appear to let her continue to do it unchecked.
All she is doing is going down the road to oblivion that will see her get the same reputation as many of the other tin pot chart pop artists.

The saying form is temporary class is permenant applies here.”

Oh come on she stuck up her middle finger are people really complaining about this tiny little thing alot more celebs have done ALOT WORSE (michael jackson,chris brown pete doherty linsey lohan to name a few ) and i bet it not like you havnt stuck up your middle finger of swore b4
Last edited by minikievs : 29-02-2012 at 00:40
geordielady
29-02-2012
Originally Posted by Hav_mor91:
“Thing is Gl i'm a massive fan of 19 and not 21 i think 19 was personally robbed but am just happy of her success because she worked hard and is normal.

The way i gauge her behaviour is she is never photographed drunk falling from Clubs she is rarely interviewed is not into hard drugs and only smokes which i do too doesn't make me a bad person nor does it her.

Just because she isn't polished or refined and says what she thinks and acts like any normal 23 year old is that somewhat detrimental to her would you rather she acted all respectable and false just because she is famous would you change who you were your accent your personality because you happened to be famous the fact she is who she is is part of her appeal she isn't middle class false or anything other than Adele hence why so many like her.some people won't but thats fine too but to attack her as though she is some horrendous being corrupting our youth and giving us Brits a bad name is unfair and based on pure dislike and borderline contempt for her.

There are far worse people out there she is tame compared to the likes of Rihanna.”

Well if the adele we are seeing now is the real person and its not some disorder caused by her not being able to handle her success then we may as well lump her alongside the chart pop pap now. I just dont have any time for artsits that act the way she had done in public lately, and i bet I am not alone either.
And its not just a one off, her bad behaviour has happened many times now in a short space of time and thats whats got me about it, we can all forgive a one off but its clear its not.
Hav_mor91
29-02-2012
Originally Posted by geordielady:
“Well if the adele we are seeing now is the real person and its not some disorder caused by her not being able to handle her success then we may as well lump her alongside the chart pop pap now. I just dont have any time for artsits that act the way she had done in public lately, and i bet I am not alone either.
And its not just a one off, her bad behaviour has happened many times now in a short space of time and thats whats got me about it, we can all forgive a one off but its clear its not.”

But thats what im failing to understand i don't recall any bad behavior other than giving a middle finger that is why im asking.

And frankly Adele is like the majority of 23 year olds i know balshy ballsy and fun yet sensible and thoughtful hence an album like 21 she is not Amy Winehouse so i don't see the big deal myself she is a nice person.
Waldstein
29-02-2012
Originally Posted by geordielady:
“Well if the adele we are seeing now is the real person and its not some disorder caused by her not being able to handle her success then we may as well lump her alongside the chart pop pap now. I just dont have any time for artsits that act the way she had done in public lately, and i bet I am not alone either.
And its not just a one off, her bad behaviour has happened many times now in a short space of time and thats whats got me about it, we can all forgive a one off but its clear its not.”

GL, I may be mistaken but I'm sure I've seen you mention in other threads that you think What's the Story Morning Glory is one of the greatest British albums or at least that you were a fan. You must feel oh so terribly conflicted when listening to Oasis considering Liam Gallagher behaved like a neanderthal throughout the 90s and makes Adele look like a nun in comparison. At least be consistent in your criticism.

By the way, when I buy an album I buy it because I want to listen to the music and not because I like an artist's personality.

On topic, I own a copy of 21.
harveybest
29-02-2012
Originally Posted by Waldstein:
“GL, I may be mistaken but I'm sure I've seen you mention in other threads that you think What's the Story Morning Glory is one of the greatest British albums or at least that you were a fan. You must feel oh so terribly conflicted when listening to Oasis considering Liam Gallagher behaved like a neanderthal throughout the 90s and makes Adele look like a nun in comparison. At least be consistent in your criticism.

By the way, when I buy an album I buy it because I want to listen to the music and not because I like an artist's personality.

On topic, I own a copy of 21.”

Liam Gallagher one of the biggest chavs of all time agreed, she changes argument to suit herself. She has also said Shania Twain is much much bigger, bit of a slip up then that a porno of her has surfaced wouldn't you say. Yeah she is a real classy chick........but does it matter?

Now get back under the bridge.
shadesofblack
29-02-2012
Originally Posted by geordielady:
“Well if the adele we are seeing now is the real person and its not some disorder caused by her not being able to handle her success then we may as well lump her alongside the chart pop pap now. I just dont have any time for artsits that act the way she had done in public lately, and i bet I am not alone either.
And its not just a one off, her bad behaviour has happened many times now in a short space of time and thats whats got me about it, we can all forgive a one off but its clear its not.”

Your attempt to constantly belittle this girl is pathetic and sad. A big draw to Adele is that she is not a polished pr tool. She flipped the bird in England. So what?
She isn't doing drugs, or sleeping around (like your fav), or saying shit about other artists, and she isn't fake. She also is a pure professional at singing and is universally loved by the music industry and the public, whether that makes you sick or not.
You can no longer put her down for the co-writing since Taylor's entire biggest album was co-written. You can't knock her on sales since she passed your fav. It leaves you in a corner. So you jump on the lower class. In America we give more credit to our rags to riches stories. It's the American way.

Btw, your behavior brings negative attention to your fav. Some people aren't going to give her a chance simply because you are such a nut.
Jonesy88
29-02-2012
Originally Posted by JB86:
“I own both 21 and 19 and love them both. I love how people come on here and moan about the success she has got etc. Green-eyed monsters much.....?”

I think a bit like that to.
Hav_mor91
29-02-2012
Originally Posted by shadesofblack:
“Your attempt to constantly belittle this girl is pathetic and sad. A big draw to Adele is that she is not a polished pr tool. She flipped the bird in England. So what?
She isn't doing drugs, or sleeping around (like your fav), or saying shit about other artists, and she isn't fake. She also is a pure professional at singing and is universally loved by the music industry and the public, whether that makes you sick or not.
You can no longer put her down for the co-writing since Taylor's entire biggest album was co-written. You can't knock her on sales since she passed your fav. It leaves you in a corner. So you jump on the lower class. In America we give more credit to our rags to riches stories. It's the American way.

Btw, your behavior brings negative attention to your fav. Some people aren't going to give her a chance simply because you are such a nut.”

Actually part of he reason Taylor annoys me is she has so many boyfriends yet acts as though they barely hold hands not being funny you get past that stage at 16 which brings it right back round to her false and immature attitude belittle Adele all you want but at least she is who she is without false niceties and Pretense.
geordielady
29-02-2012
Originally Posted by shadesofblack:
“Your attempt to constantly belittle this girl is pathetic and sad. A big draw to Adele is that she is not a polished pr tool. She flipped the bird in England. So what?
She isn't doing drugs, or sleeping around (like your fav), or saying shit about other artists, and she isn't fake. She also is a pure professional at singing and is universally loved by the music industry and the public, whether that makes you sick or not.
You can no longer put her down for the co-writing since Taylor's entire biggest album was co-written. You can't knock her on sales since she passed your fav. It leaves you in a corner. So you jump on the lower class. In America we give more credit to our rags to riches stories. It's the American way.

Btw, your behavior brings negative attention to your fav. Some people aren't going to give her a chance simply because you are such a nut.”

You really know so little about taylor. :yawn::yawn::yawn:
geordielady
29-02-2012
Originally Posted by Waldstein:
“GL, I may be mistaken but I'm sure I've seen you mention in other threads that you think What's the Story Morning Glory is one of the greatest British albums or at least that you were a fan. You must feel oh so terribly conflicted when listening to Oasis considering Liam Gallagher behaved like a neanderthal throughout the 90s and makes Adele look like a nun in comparison. At least be consistent in your criticism.

By the way, when I buy an album I buy it because I want to listen to the music and not because I like an artist's personality.

On topic, I own a copy of 21.”

Liam Gallagher is not a solo artist, he sings in a group, i love oasis but didn't like liam gallagher at all. oasis were at their best when liam threw a stroop and Noel had to sing all the songs. Being a Chav when your a solo artist is a lot worse then when your a member of a group as all eyes are on you and you alone. IMO Liam Gallagher and Adele are totally cut from the same cloth
robo2
29-02-2012
Originally Posted by geordielady:
“You really know so little about taylor. :yawn::yawn::yawn:”

just like most people then as she is a moderatley succesful bland country artist unlike adele who is the biggest female music star in the world at the moment
robo2
29-02-2012
Originally Posted by geordielady:
“Liam Gallagher is not a solo artist, he sings in a group, i love oasis but didn't like liam gallagher at all. oasis were at their best when liam threw a stroop and Noel had to sing all the songs. Being a Chav when your a solo artist is a lot worse then when your a member of a group as all eyes are on you and you alone. IMO Liam Gallagher and Adele are totally cut from the same cloth”

noel gallacher is such a nice guy though, a few quotes from him

"I wish they would catch Aids and die"
(on Albarn and Alex James)
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4151510.stm)

"If there were gold medals for taking drugs for England I would have won a shit load" (On Parkinson, 2006)

"... I don't know, I think he's just going senile, isn't he?" (On Paul McCartney)
Hav_mor91
29-02-2012
Originally Posted by geordielady:
“You really know so little about taylor. :yawn::yawn::yawn:”

It's true it was entirely co-written but it has co-writes and was her biggest seller and as was her fist speak no written by her own hands her lowest seller so far thats just fact

And Gl Adele has never insulted or told anyone to die has never been seen jacked up on drugs and alcohol whilst involved in a brawl she isn't on her back for large parts of the day and or genrally being as you would say a Chav i mean Lily allen a middle class girl has worse behaviour than Adele she swears and smokes is about it really she's so much like The Gallagher's isn't she

i don't get why you perceive her to be such a bad person when there is barley any evidence to back up your claim ???
WelshNige
29-02-2012
Originally Posted by geordielady:
“For an artist in the spotlight her behaviour is shocking, i know your a massive fan of hers but no amount of pretending her behavious is ok will change the facts that everyone can see. Success can do many things to an artist, its clear she is struggling with it, but surely her management e.t.c really are the problem as they appear to let her continue to do it unchecked.
All she is doing is going down the road to oblivion that will see her get the same reputation as many of the other tin pot chart pop artists.

The saying form is temporary class is permenant applies here.”

Adele is one of the biggest worldwide artists the music scene has had for many, many years yet according to you she is "going down the road to oblivion".

Even by your standards that is a comment of complete and utter idiocy.
Gaspanic!
29-02-2012
Originally Posted by geordielady:
“ IMO Liam Gallagher and Adele are totally cut from the same cloth”

No they aren't. Liam's witty and highly quotable. Adele's yawn inducing and ear rippingly boring.
geordielady
29-02-2012
Originally Posted by Hav_mor91:
“It's true it was entirely co-written but it has co-writes and was her biggest seller and as was her fist speak no written by her own hands her lowest seller so far thats just fact

And Gl Adele has never insulted or told anyone to die has never been seen jacked up on drugs and alcohol whilst involved in a brawl she isn't on her back for large parts of the day and or genrally being as you would say a Chav i mean Lily allen a middle class girl has worse behaviour than Adele she swears and smokes is about it really she's so much like The Gallagher's isn't she

i don't get why you perceive her to be such a bad person when there is barley any evidence to back up your claim ???”

Another one who knows very little about taylor next :yawn::yawn::yawn:
geordielady
29-02-2012
Originally Posted by Gaspanic!:
“No they aren't. Liam's witty and highly quotable. Adele's yawn inducing and ear rippingly boring.”

Talking about the way they act

As artists of course they are not even comparable, liam gallagher like him or not is still a legend,
RaptureRider
29-02-2012
I do.
barlowconnor
29-02-2012
Yes I Do!!!!
lynetta1982
29-02-2012
Originally Posted by geordielady:
“Another one who knows very little about taylor next :yawn::yawn::yawn:”

So are you saying that taylor has never co-written?
MrMeatAndPotato
29-02-2012
Originally Posted by robo2:
“noel gallacher is such a nice guy though, a few quotes from him

"I wish they would catch Aids and die"
(on Albarn and Alex James)
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4151510.stm)

"If there were gold medals for taking drugs for England I would have won a shit load" (On Parkinson, 2006)

"... I don't know, I think he's just going senile, isn't he?" (On Paul McCartney)”

It may be worth noting that Paul McCartney also thinks The Jonas Brothers are the next Beatles


On a serious note though, we are talking about comments that were made around 1995-2000... where both brothers were completely drugged up. Ever since they were clean, neither made comments that were as extreme as those.
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