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Effect of surgery on Adele's voice.
I'm a little concerned that the problems and surgery have hurt her voice! Of course a sub-standard Adele performance is still a great performance but she was really not at her best at the Grammy Awards of the Brit Awards this year.
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I agree and I love Adele ! Can't help but notice that her voice is alot deeper.
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Her voice is still incredible, but I did notice it was deeper. But I haven't seen that many live performances so I thought maybe her actual singing voice was a bit deeper than her studio voice anyway.
Either way, her old voice and new voice are equally as amazing. |
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It'll hopefully just need more time/rest/practise.
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I think it's probably too soon to know how her voice is affected long-term or to make any judgements. Although she is obviously fit to be singing again, I think it's good to remember that these were her first performances back and also that her vocal cords were on an extended period of rest and will have to be strengthened again, something I'm sure is a gradual and continual process that Adele is working on with her vocal coach. She's basically retraining her voice so that she doesn't fall into bad habits again and this takes time.
The only part of RITD at both the Brits and Grammys performances that I personally thought was weak was the pre-chorus section and IMO, I thought she sounded better than in the Live at the Albert Hall DVD in which I thought her voice sounded extremely fatigued. The one thing I did notice though from the Brits/Grammys was that her technique does seem to have improved. Her enunciation is much better and she's opening up much more on the narrow vowels so that she's not forcing air through her vocal cords nor was she forcing that raspy tone that she was singing with prior to her vocal problems. These can only be good things for maintaining a healthy voice. If only she'd give up the cigarettes though! |
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It's taken the power out of it (I personally think her smoking and technique also contributed to it too). I don't know if she'll get it back, but she needs to. If she continues touring with her voice as it is, she'll never be able to sing properly again. Compare her in late 2010 with RITD to now (I know she had the operation but in July you could really hear the smoking damage IMO). I'd have classical singing lessons twice a week if I were her. Her vocal health is paramount, seeing as its her main attraction.
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If only she'd give up the cigarettes though!
I reckon that really contributed to it all, singing each night and smoking a LOT.
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Oh God, I know! How is a singer like her smoking?
I reckon that really contributed to it all, singing each night and smoking a LOT.I think I read also that one of the primary reasons for the condition that Adele had is repeated singing with a respiratory infection which I think is what she did and must've contributed in combination with the points you raise. I just hope that her return to performing is gradual and doesn't exert her voice. I know that John Mayer had vocal cord surgery around the same time as Adele (for a different condition) and he released his tour dates yesterday for a small scale theatre tour with not too many dates which I think is probably the best way to do it. |
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The smoking does need to stop. I'm not a smoker myself so I don't really understand what it's like but she obviously must be finding it difficult to quit.
I think I read also that one of the primary reasons for the condition that Adele had is repeated singing with a respiratory infection which I think is what she did and must've contributed in combination with the points you raise. I just hope that her return to performing is gradual and doesn't exert her voice. I know that John Mayer had vocal cord surgery around the same time as Adele (for a different condition) and he released his tour dates yesterday for a small scale theatre tour with not too many dates which I think is probably the best way to do it. If she'd stopped her habit in 2001, she'd still be the Voice. Vocal declines and improvements are slow (if its an unnatural thing) but if you've got a naturally strong/good voice, as Adele does she'll pick it up. But classical retraining would help her technique wise and power/range wise. It would make her voice very very powerful, without her having to really go for it. |
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Its true she does sound deeper when she sings now.
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I thought the same. Surgery has helped her to sing her songs, much stronger and deeper!
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Deeper isn't necessarily bad. It could add a resonance to your style.
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Oh God, I know! How is a singer like her smoking?
I reckon that really contributed to it all, singing each night and smoking a LOT. |
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Quite a few talented vocalists past and present have smoked. Adele is no exception. I don't think it's down to smoking as a whole.
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Weight loss is also going to have an effect on her voice.
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I'm a little concerned that the problems and surgery have hurt her voice! Of course a sub-standard Adele performance is still a great performance but she was really not at her best at the Grammy Awards of the Brit Awards this year.
The surgery was clearly desperately needed and has taken the strained tones out of her voice. Some people are saying it's taken the "character" out of her voice. That's not character, that's damage and had she carried on without the surgery, she wouldn't have been singing for much longer. |
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I have to agree
The Grammy and Brit performances were very shaky and her voice lacked a bit of raspiness |
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Anyone here heard of Nat King Cole? Chain smoker; anywhere up to 30 fags a days and he was still dubbed "The Man With the Velvet Voice" - smoothest voice there was.
Smoking doesn't affect everyone's voice. |
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Anyone here heard of Nat King Cole? Chain smoker; anywhere up to 30 fags a days and he was still dubbed "The Man With the Velvet Voice" - smoothest voice there was.
Smoking doesn't affect everyone's voice. |
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iv'e watched the grammy's performance loadsa times and i can't hear this difference, sounds same to me
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I think it's far too soon to properly assess the effects of the surgery.
Her live vocal has always been deeper than record (Thankfully, I much prefer live Someone Like You than recorded where it's far too high in the chorus for my liking, same with Don't You Remember. I remember being very disappointed with the album versions after the live performance on YouTube before 21 was released) I thought she still sounded pretty great at the Brits and Grammys, she's still warming up again. |
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To be fair, the Grammy's and the BRITs were Adele's first two performances in the public since surgery. Adele has always been a nervous performer infront of large crowds and the added pressure of knowing people would be seeing how her voice was after the surgery can't have helped. On top of that her voice won't be back to full strength yet. She'll have to keep working on it and taking lessons to strengthen it back to what it was.
But even if she is stuck with this sound, it's still really pleasant and really incredible. |
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I think she sounded better after the surgery and could tell by watching the dvd version.
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I reckon that really contributed to it all, singing each night and smoking a LOT.
