Doesn't help that there main strikers the last few seasons are now at Bayern & Dortmund haven't replaced them yet, plus have had injuries to other key players, without those players teams have worked out how to play them, the Champions League last 16 tie against Juventus is vital, if they get knocked out i can see Klopp resigning.

It's interesting they still managed to do well in the CL but are a completely different team in the Bundesliga.

Dortmund will play Freiburg (who are only 2 points ahead) on Saturday. They have to win that one.

I thought they'd be alright after bringing in Ramos and Immobile. Both had good scoring records at their previous clubs. It's a very odd situation.

I know people were calling the Dortmund worship a hipster fad, but they don't have to take it this literally.

If Juventus don't beat Dortmund, I can see trouble for Allegri too!

different topic: chaos at semi final ACN as home team Eq Guinea losing 3-0 to Ghana so fans invaded the pitch and the game looks as if it might be either abandoned or the last 8 minutes played (eventually) with no-one in the stadium.

It's crazy. And they're gonna restart the game!

Edit: Why did they restart just to play 3 random added minutes?! A mess of a game this one.

finally noticed it was on DID YOU ALL???


i WAS gonna start a thread for it when it started, but had already did two, so bugger all y'all


EQ should get hammered for those scenes

Stupid Ajax losing me my (five-fold) accumulator. They were at home, too.

There was a red card for Ajax. Terrible decision. Jetro Willems got a stupid red the other day but this was even worse.

oh here's a thing about that african nations match ..... if the referee "missed out" time, doesn't that mean the matched wasn't played in the full 90+injury time?

if that's so would that mean the match is NULL AND VOID???

I really DO NOT HAVE A SODDING CLUE

Dortmund fighting relegation and Southampton fighting for a Champions League place, I am sure that I must be living in a different universe to the one I was in as few years ago!

Just been reading about Equatorial Guinea's quarter final match against Tunisia, & that looks dodgy as anything, EG got awarded a debatable penalty in normal time injury time, & the Ref failed to add on 4/5 minutes of injury time in normal time, & blew the final whistle before injury time in extra time was over.

Just shows what you can do with a stronger squad.

Yes indeed, plus Augsburg in Germany who are pushing hard for a Champions League spot, just a shame that St Etienne's push has gone wayward recently in France, it would have been good if they could have put PSG under more pressure.

Having new team, or different teams compete in the Champions League would be good to see I think.

Just saw the result of the Madrid derby Oh my.

Is it worth a spoiler or not?
I will anyway to be on the safe side.

And I thought jenzie had the exclusive misuse of upper case here.

Doh!

My excuse is that I have just got a new phone, and so consequently I am just having to get use to things on it!

Atletico Madrid are 18/1 to win the CL, longer odds than City. Given they will be hurting from last year, I would say those are extremely kind odds.

Juve keep control of Serie A with a good victory over a Milan team that did OK but Juve just had too much quality.

Morata looks to be getting better and better. Could certainly be a top striker if he continues in this form.

And in regards to Atletico. Think they've confirmed their dominance over Real this season and should certainly give any team a game in the Champions League.

Atletico were brilliant today. That said I don't think Real were up for it and were beaten before they stepped on the pitch. Tough match midweek vs Sevilla, some injuries and psychology handicapped vs Atletico due to recent results.

The Real team that started today's match, started with a very unusual defensive lineup, injuries and suspensions there certainly helped Atletico and their forwards, but credit to them they were fantastic all over the pitch.

Dortmund back to winning ways in Germany, as were Bayern.

I am looking forward to Lyon v PSG tomorrow, that should be as cracking game, shame Lyon are missing their star striker for it though.

Suarez at last gets the goal his performances have warranted in recent weeks.

Barcelona are looking very impressive right now. Man city are going to need to raise their levels quite a bit I think.

Lyon and PSG played out a 1-1 draw so the French title race stays as is with the top four all drawing this weekend.

Anthony Lopes had a brilliant game for Lyon. Keeping pretty much everything out that PSG threw at him until they got a penalty.

Really interesting title race in France this season.