always thought he would make a better coach than manager personally.

Juventus' remarkable run in Serie A continues. In the clash of the top two they have just beaten Napoli 1-0 and now replace them at the top.

Incredibly that is now 15 league wins in-a-row for Juve!

Juve finding a way to win when they'd mentally settled for a draw. Beating Napoli despite their injury problems too. Still think it's too early to tell though as with their squad depleted and the CL starting again, could be tough.

Juve's winning run in Serie A comes to an end with a 0-0 draw at Bologna.

Napoli can go back to the top if they beat Milan on Monday night.

Ronaldo (0 goals in big games this season) has just had a pop at his team-mates after they lost the derby earlier today

He's probably not wrong.

And I assume the CL knockouts don't count as a 'big game'.

no, a game where they were heavily favoured to win doesn't really count. but even if we do include it for argument's sake, that bumps his grand total up to 1. aside from that one, of all his goals so far this season, only one other one has ended up altering the outcome of a game.

he's wrong, in other words.

This is why he'll never be as good as Messi IMO, and I'm certainly no fan of Barcelona. For me it's not only what you do on the pitch but how you carry yourself off it as well.

Ronaldo is an arsehole for saying that, no need for it , his attitude stinks, no class at all

Ron in being a bit egotistical shocker.

He's been one of the two best players in the world for the best part of a decade, of course if every player in the side was as talented as him they'd be top.

You seem, in all honesty , like one of the more intelligent posters on the forum. Whenever I see you post its always worth reading for one reason or another and you always argue your case properly (whether I agree or not). For example I dont see how a Spurs fan can magically also "support" the best team in the world as well, but I have no doubt you have valid reasons and could explain it if forced to do so!!

However when it comes to Ronaldo and Messi or Ronaldo and anyone all objectivity flies out the window with you.

If Messi made the same statement you would be on here calling it a motivational speech!

Im not going to lie, I love Ronaldo. I think he stands for everything that is great about being a footballer. As a Man Utd fan I have watched him since the day he came to United as a scrawny one trick pony and watched him watch, learn and work his bollocks off to become the best in the world (or close). I have never seen a player in my 30 years of football watching make such a concerted effort to be the best he can possibly be. The result is a goals to games ratio that (Messi aside) is unheard of in world football at any sort of level. He has done that himself, he has created himself through sheer hard work and determination and that is to be admired whether you think he is better than Messi or not. He is the very epitome of making the most of whatever ability God gave you. That shouldn't be knocked, it should be admired, just as it should with Messi. Petty jibes about "important" goals are just that - petty. He is the main man at Real and his goals record shows goals against all levels of opposition.

And for the record he is right. If the rest of his team worked as hard and were as good as him, Barca would be under a great deal more pressure at the top than they are.

There is a time and a place for these sort of comments, and saying then so the whole world can here them, is not it.

Say this privately in the dressing room, but what is there to be gained by putting down (or bigging up himself) his teammates like that?

Yes you could say tensions might have been running high, and he might very well have been very frustrated after such a result against not just a title rival, but their main city rivals, but even so, to come out with such a statement, I just don't see what he aimed to achieve by doing so?

If he felt like that, (which he is perfectly entitled to feel considering it is most likely to be true) why not just say it "in house"?

There might be a bit of a frosty welcome next time he comes into training I could well imagine, as no-one likes to be belittled in public like that.

I'll try and address everything you said.

firstly, the respect is definitely mutual. we probably disagree on more things than we agree with, but I always respect your point of view and the way you put your arguments across.

I think I've covered the Barca/Spurs thing in here before, but maybe not. it's really simple though, they're the first team I ever saw play (in 1986, in case you were wondering). I can't prove any of this to you of course, so you'll just have to take my word for it, but I'm definitely no bandwagoner or glory-hunter.

I don't claim to be objective with my preference for Messi or Ronaldo, I'm biased and always will be. However, even with that said, I do try to separate my bias from my objectivity when it comes to comparing them. Ronaldo is a fantastic player, without any shadow of a doubt, and I can accept that even whilst disliking him at the same time. But I'd like to think that even if he were a Barca player and Messi played for Real, I'd be able to recognise the latter as the better player. Basically, I don't accept your assertion that I'm unable to be objective.

Let's be clear on one thing....had Messi made those same comments, I'd be just as critical. Messi just wouldn't make those comments, though, so I don't believe that particular argument is even relevant. You're the team's best (and best-paid) player for a reason, and that reason is that it isn't possible for everyone else to do what you're capable of. You can't take all the credit going when things go well, and then blame your team-mates when it all goes wrong. and in the case of Ronaldo, where other team-mates have to suppress their game in order to accommodate his individuality, it's a bit of a cheek in all honesty. as a leader, you're supposed to make others around you better, and for me that's the biggest difference between he and Messi. take away their scoring, and in Messi you have a player that brings out the best in his team-mates whilst still being great. Ronaldo's greatness comes at the expense of the team. so yeah, maybe if every player in the team had 35 goals this season like he does, they'd probably be top, but that has never happened anywhere ever in the history of football. it just doesn't work like that. but maybe, just maybe if the rest of the team was allowed to be as good as they can be, they'd be right up there too? I keep saying, it's not a coincidence that Barca have won way more than Real during his time there. take both players out over the last 7 years, and both teams would be a lot more equal. some years Barca's supporting cast has been better, and at others it's been Real's. Real have spent more money on players in this time than anyone in the history of the game. they've also had some of the most successful managers of this era at the same time that Barca have had some rookies and unknowns. so if these two are as close or equal as some claim, then what's the reason for the HUGE disparity in trophies?

the goal tallies look great on paper, but a lot of them are just padding. I always say that the season Messi scored 73 goals was probably his worst, and was almost certainly the team's worst also. so, far from being petty jibes, it's just factual that Ronaldo is piling up against poor teams this season, and his goals aren't actually influencing games. when the team have needed big performances, against Barca, Atletico, Sevilla, PSG etc, he's contributed very little. even just one or two goals in those games would've made more of a difference to Real's season than the 8 he scored past Espanyol or the 11 he got against Shakhtar and Malmo. but that's been the case with him for a while now, he's just MUCH better against weak teams than he is against good ones.

Spot on Pee.

Ronaldo was so exciting at United, after his first season and before the season he scored 40+ goals for them. I loved watching him then.

He is now a great goalscorer, but in terms of complete team player, creator and skill, Messi is a different level.

I think Its hard to argue against Messi being the best player ever. remember even those experts or fans who argue for Maradona or Pele were only seeing their highlights or full games if in a World Cup. Very few of them would have been Santos or Napolis season ticket holders and been able to criticise their quiet games.

If we didnt have access to game Barcelona play on TV and we just saw clips of Messi's exploit on the news every week, his showreel would be more impressive than Maradona's.

I say this as a person who thought Maradona was a genius. (and rated Zidane up there as well).

psg lose after 36 games and barca won and didnt play well

Barca look tired. I know the players always want to play but I think Enrique needs to star resting some players.

What ronaldo said about his fellow players was nothing short of disgraceful.

Real Madrid have a shocking record against Athletico regardless of who plays.

Could Real Madrid end up finishing in fourth place?

They are closer to that position than to the team in first place.

another win and battling performance for Juve against Inter. Love Bonucci. Sadly, so does Guardiola apparently, but hope Bonucci stays at Juve.

Just seen this stat on Twitter:


important goals....

If PSG win today they've won the french league already. 38 minutes gone and they already 3-0 up.....................

Make that 8-0

They only won 9-0 lol. Could have been a lot more and should have if it wasn't for the keeper

So four French league titles in a row for PSG, can they get anywhere near Celtic and Rangers' nine?

It doesn't look like anyone is close to them at the moment.

Dynamo Zagreb are on 10

Aren't the European leagues exciting! BATE Borisov going for their 11th straight title this season too. And Olympiacos about to get their 7th in a row, amongst other examples I can think of off the top of my head.