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i think she needs to stop dressing as if she is 20-something. i know people are like but that's Madonna, she can do whatever she wants, just because you're 50 doesn't mean you have to stop being yourself but i just think it comes across a little desperate. but if she's acting like this on purpose and to make people "think" then congratulations but i just think she looks a bit silly.
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SO you have heard MDNA then???
How can you judge her material....and say "the music aint good" tha is just your opinion...not a fact! If it was simply a "pale copy" she wouldnt be doing it all dahling. ![]() ![]() nah... i knew the fans would jump at that... but thats the point, fans would like it if it was a pile of cack...sorry but in my experience i find that tracks that are really good turn heads from 'non fans'... i have not seen this for a over a decade with madonna. Quote:
Well, I haven't read a bad review of the album yet so it would appear the critics disagree with you. And we all know the importance you place on the opinion of critics.
![]() apart from the fans, ive seen no interest in madonna, nothing like what there was from the mid 80's until the end of the 90's... so whilst she might be getting some praise from the critics, its nothing like it was... do any of you really think her current material is as strong as her earlier?... really? |
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i think she needs to stop dressing as if she is 20-something. i know people are like but that's Madonna, she can do whatever she wants, just because you're 50 doesn't mean you have to stop being yourself but i just think it comes across a little desperate. but if she's acting like this on purpose and to make people "think" then congratulations but i just think she looks a bit silly.
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i take that on board..however it still comes back to life beyond the critics... critical acclaim alone aint enough if the general public and music fans arent 'on board' then it leaves them out in the cold. apart from the fans, ive seen no interest in madonna, nothing like what there was from the mid 80's until the end of the 90's... so whilst she might be getting some praise from the critics, its nothing like it was... do any of you really think her current material is as strong as her earlier?... really? I think some of her new music is better than her old music and some isn't. I'm a huge fan, but on every album there are songs I don't like or think are boring and others I love and think are brilliant. I'm sure the new album will be the same thing. And what does the "quality" have to do with how she dresses? Even when she was making what you consider "quality" music, she was just as sexy if not more so than now. So it's not like she's increased the sexiness as the supposed quality has gone down. She's stayed at the same level of sexiness because that's her persona. |
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Aren't you confusing commercial success and chart positions with the "quality" of the music? As far as praise from the critics, she's getting more now. Some of her best selling albums from the 80's were harshly criticized by the critics. It's just a fact that no older artist is selling at the level they did as they did when they were younger. It doesn't mean their music is less good. And of course non-fans don't like it or aren't interested. The definition of a fan is someone who likes a person's music. If you're not a fan, of course you aren't going to like it or be interested.
I think some of her new music is better than her old music and some isn't. I'm a huge fan, but on every album there are songs I don't like or think are boring and others I love and think are brilliant. I'm sure the new album will be the same thing. And what does the "quality" have to do with how she dresses? Even when she was making what you consider "quality" music, she was just as sexy if not more so than now. So it's not like she's increased the sexiness as the supposed quality has gone down. She's stayed at the same level of sexiness because that's her persona. the point is that when she started up amidst huge hype, many of us established music fans (post punk era) ignored her... she was nothing much other then just another hyped pop star. what changed was the way she impressed a reluctant music fan base. imho the mark of a true great track/artist is one who can turn heads outside her fanbase/target audience... back in the 80's she did just that. she won 'non fans' over, we liked and respected her. that is not how she is seen now by 'non fans', by fans of music not any one artist... madonna fans are not going to be objective simply by the fact that they are fans, biased in favour of. there has long been a link between the amount of flesh/sexiness/porn in a music vid and the quality of the track. poor quality music is usually supported by a 'sexy' vid.. what 'non fans' have told you on this thread is that she now appears desperate, rather pathetic, woman trying to portray herself as much younger then she is. that is sadly how many of us who have liked her for decades (but dont discribe ourselves as fans) see her. only time will tell whether or not this current periods material will be judged in fair comparison to her earlier material... personally, i cant see it... |
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no confusion, quality/chart ..
the point is that when she started up amidst huge hype, many of us established music fans (post punk era) ignored her... she was nothing much other then just another hyped pop star. what changed was the way she impressed a reluctant music fan base. imho the mark of a true great track/artist is one who can turn heads outside her fanbase/target audience... back in the 80's she did just that. she won 'non fans' over, we liked and respected her. that is not how she is seen now by 'non fans', by fans of music not any one artist... madonna fans are not going to be objective simply by the fact that they are fans, biased in favour of. there has long been a link between the amount of flesh/sexiness/porn in a music vid and the quality of the track. poor quality music is usually supported by a 'sexy' vid.. what 'non fans' have told you on this thread is that she now appears desperate, rather pathetic, woman trying to portray herself as much younger then she is. that is sadly how many of us who have liked her for decades (but dont discribe ourselves as fans) see her. only time will tell whether or not this current periods material will be judged in fair comparison to her earlier material... personally, i cant see it... I don't buy your premise that the level of sexiness in a video is supported by a low quality track. It can be, but you can also make a sexy video with a great track. A lot of Madonna's older music was also supported by sexy videos and imagery. So I fail to see why she's now desparate because she's using sexy imagery when she has always done that. If you are offended by sexiness, maybe she's not the artist for you. You complain about Madonna being sexy, but there's sexiness in many videos including those by rock and punk artists. Sex is part of life, and has always been and always will be part of music. Sexuality is something that I feel artists should be free to draw on in their work. And I don't think that should change because she's older. Will she reach the level of success she did in the 80's? No, but that has nothing to do with sexiness but because radio just doesn't support older artists. Madonna does what she does, you can like it or not. I don't think she should worry about pleasing non-fans who just want to complain. You can't please everyone. She pleases millions of people who love her and that's good enough. |
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Actually there wasn't a huge hype around Madonna when she first started. Her first song was 1982 and it's only impact was the US dance chart.
Even when she came over to the UK to do Top of the Pops in January 1984 there was more interest over Cyndi Lauper than Madonna. Cyndi had a no. 2 with Girls Wanna Have Fun and Madonna had to make do with no. 6 for Holiday. When I went into work the next day after TotP was shown everyone was talking about Cyndi. The media interest started with Like A Virgin, only because the title sounded rude. The joke popular among Stand Ups was "Madonna? Yeah, right, she's like a virgin!" |
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Actually there wasn't a huge hype around Madonna when she first started. Her first song was 1982 and it's only impact was the US dance chart.
Even when she came over to the UK to do Top of the Pops in January 1984 there was more interest over Cyndi Lauper than Madonna. Cyndi had a no. 2 with Girls Wanna Have Fun and Madonna had to make do with no. 6 for Holiday. When I went into work the next day after TotP was shown everyone was talking about Cyndi. The media interest started with Like A Virgin, only because the title sounded rude. The joke popular among Stand Ups was "Madonna? Yeah, right, she's like a virgin!" |
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nah... i knew the fans would jump at that... but thats the point, fans would like it if it was a pile of cack...
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that is not how she is seen now by 'non fans', by fans of music not any one artist... madonna fans are not going to be objective simply by the fact that they are fans, biased in favour of.
That said, I still disagree with you that people who aren’t neutral are incapable of discerning between the best and worst of an artist's musical repertoire. I would suggest that only a small proportion of Madonna’s fans will be happy with whatever she feeds them. And I would argue that most are able to form a rather informed opinion on the matter, *because* of their fandom. And I also believe that a small proportion of them will *never* be satisfied. This is certainly true for Kylie, at least. There is a small section of Kylie's fan base which simply refuses to be pleased. They're *always* criticising her, saying she could do better, should record an album which sounds like this or that, etc etc... to the point that I often wonder why they call themselves fans at all. And yet they do. I can’t speak for everyone, either, of course, but surely it stands to reason that all fans won’t think the same way. Let me ask you this, Rob, who are *you* a fan of? There must be someone! If it turns out that I am not a fan of them too, would you honestly maintain that my opinion of them is more legitimate than yours? Quote:
do any of you really think her current material is as strong as her earlier?... really?
Not that I subscribe AT ALL to the notion that Madonna looking like someone in her 20s is fine as long as the quality of her music is good, since I just don’t see how the two are linked even in the slightest. If someone thinks she’s trying too hard to be young, they’re going to think it even if they think her album is amazing. |
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That said, I still disagree with you that people who aren’t neutral are incapable of discerning between the best and worst of an artist's musical repertoire. I would suggest that only a small proportion of Madonna’s fans will be happy with whatever she feeds them. And I would argue that most are able to form a rather informed opinion on the matter, *because* of their fandom. And I also believe that a small proportion of them will *never* be satisfied. This is certainly true for Kylie, at least. There is a small section of Kylie's fan base which simply refuses to be pleased. They're *always* criticising her, saying she could do better, should record an album which sounds like this or that, etc etc... to the point that I often wonder why they call themselves fans at all. And yet they do. Personally, I like her more innovative electronica era of ROL, American Life and Music. I tend to also like her more pop tracks and not so much of the clubby stuff. I was not that big on HC since in a lot of ways it looked back to her 80's bubblegum phase that I wasn't that big on. The great thing with MDNA is it seems to me that it's very eclectic incorporating all her different phases. So I think people may not like every song but I think every Madonna fan will find a few songs to like. |
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First of all, I'm not a fan of just Madonna. Yes, I like her and am sympathetic to her, but I'm a fan of music in general and many other artists.
I don't buy your premise that the level of sexiness in a video is supported by a low quality track. It can be, but you can also make a sexy video with a great track. A lot of Madonna's older music was also supported by sexy videos and imagery. So I fail to see why she's now desparate because she's using sexy imagery when she has always done that. If you are offended by sexiness, maybe she's not the artist for you. You complain about Madonna being sexy, but there's sexiness in many videos including those by rock and punk artists. Sex is part of life, and has always been and always will be part of music. Sexuality is something that I feel artists should be free to draw on in their work. And I don't think that should change because she's older. Will she reach the level of success she did in the 80's? No, but that has nothing to do with sexiness but because radio just doesn't support older artists. Madonna does what she does, you can like it or not. I don't think she should worry about pleasing non-fans who just want to complain. You can't please everyone. She pleases millions of people who love her and that's good enough. but madonna ISNT sexy... thats the point...shes trying to portray herself as a fit female in her vids but shes failing...this is my whole point! she can be sexy with class...but shes trying to hard to be a young person and shes failing...just look at how many think this in this thread (who arent fans of). what radio doesnt support older artists?.. try re-tuning off radio 1 ! of course she should be thinking about pleasing MUSIC fans...thats her job! she and no artist is stuck with what they have.. my point stands, shes not turning heads by anybody except her loyal fan base, that is probably enough to secure her future. Quote:
Actually there wasn't a huge hype around Madonna when she first started. Her first song was 1982 and it's only impact was the US dance chart.
Even when she came over to the UK to do Top of the Pops in January 1984 there was more interest over Cyndi Lauper than Madonna. Cyndi had a no. 2 with Girls Wanna Have Fun and Madonna had to make do with no. 6 for Holiday. When I went into work the next day after TotP was shown everyone was talking about Cyndi. The media interest started with Like A Virgin, only because the title sounded rude. The joke popular among Stand Ups was "Madonna? Yeah, right, she's like a virgin!" Quote:
Hmm... your attitude towards an artist's fanbase is interesting but it *is* very one dimensional.
You and I have been around the houses with this a few times but please indulge me. What in music is there to be objective about, really? Objective is not the right word, since there is no such thing as an objective opinion - particularly when equally qualified “non-fans” don't agree with each other. I know what you mean, though, and neutral is perhaps a better word. |
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I agree and I think it's even more true of Madonna than Kylie. Madonna has had so many reinventions over the years and changes her style of music so much. Certain fans become attached to their favourite era in her career and kind of hope that she will keep repeating that same sound. They get upset when she changes to something else. There's a group of fans who love her fun poppy music from the 80's and don't like her recent stuff. Then there's another group who loved her more serious ballady stuff from the 90's and want her to be serious and deep all the time. Then there's the hard core clubby people who like her harder dance tracks like on Confessions. Then there's people who like her more innovative electronica like ROL. When people say they're a fan of Madonna, I always ask them what era of her career are they a fan of?
Personally, I like her more innovative electronica era of ROL, American Life and Music. I tend to also like her more pop tracks and not so much of the clubby stuff. I was not that big on HC since in a lot of ways it looked back to her 80's bubblegum phase that I wasn't that big on. The great thing with MDNA is it seems to me that it's very eclectic incorporating all her different phases. So I think people may not like every song but I think every Madonna fan will find a few songs to like. I personally as a an never want her to have two albums the same sound. I always want her changing things up a lot and broadening herself definitely. It is very interesting seeing how many different people are united by Madonna...like you yourself gigi4 who listens to very Indie/Experimental sounds but loves Madonna too and i have a mate of mine that really loves Metal/Harcore stuff you know who sometimes talks to me about Madonna and has some of her albums and stuff. It is just so interesting. And the fact is she still pleases these millions of people globally. In a widened scope because she has rised to the challenge, always celebrated as well as criticised. It is very inspiring
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oh please dont get bogged down bickering over semantics... you know exactly what im on about... fans wont give a true balanced opinion because they ARE fans...
And you still dodged the question where I asked you whether you are fan of any musical acts, and whether that makes my own opinion of them more legitimate than yours? |
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The fact remains Madonna generally got poor reviews from the (serious) music critics until her Like A Prayer album, but the public loved her.
Now she has rightly gained legendary status, so like U2, REM (before they split), Prince, Neil Young, Paul McCartney, Bruce Springsteen, etc she gets the benefit of the doubt with critics reviews (hence her Music & Confessions... albums got a high Metacritic rating of 80), although this time around it is due to the double whammy of the newspapers/media narrative of the Queen of Pop returning to reclaim her throne from the pretenders (Gaga, Rihanna, Katy Perry, Taylor Swift, P!nk, etc) but also because she is granting a limited number of exclusive interviews with the media (repeating what U2 did prior to the release of their critically raved/publicly panned last album No Line On The Horizon, which even the band itself have since come out and admitted it was "lacklustre"); so do you think she will grant an interview with someone who gives a rave review of the album or someone who gives MDNA a poor review. As one review of the album in The Word monthly publication that is not online, by the same pair of Editors (Mark Ellen & David Hepworth) who previously ran Record Mirror, Smash Hits, Q, Mojo, Select and now The Word magazine, they've featured Madonna on more front covers than any other act bar U2.... yet the review is rather critical of the album, especially her vain attempts to stay as a contemporary single chart artist appealling to the youthful music buyers "whose music collection probably consists of downloads", stating the much of the first half of the album "is more Peter Stringfellow than Neil Young", lamenting her attempts to stay young as a betrayal of her work on the "wonderfully mature, yet contemporary" Ray Of Light album, comparing it unfavourably with a 53 year old (Paul Weller) who releases his 22nd studio album on Monday (Sonik Kicks) who has made a very modern contemporary sounding alternative/rock album, whilst lyrically singing about lyrics relevant to his age group. (It did praise the William Orbit produced tracks though). It also anticipated that far from gain her new fans, she is more likely to alienate her old fan base who have bought her music for nearly three decades (by comparing it to the Duran Duran Timbaland produced disaster "Red Carpet Massacre") which did just that. Incidentally, the Queen of Pop's "Give Me All Your Luvin'" has today dropped out of the Billboard singles chart after 5 weeks making it her shortest lead album single chart run in her entire career (one week less than the "flop" as it was labelled on DS by most posters at the time Born This Way single spent at #1 in the USA), as well as its peak at #10 is her lowest lead single chart peak since her debut album; whilst the follow up single "Girl Gone Wild" has moved from it's chart debut at #106 last week down to #125 ..... |
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The fact remains Madonna generally got poor reviews from the (serious) music critics until her Like A Prayer album, but the public loved her.
Now she has rightly gained legendary status, so like U2, REM (before they split), Prince, Neil Young, Paul McCartney, Bruce Springsteen, etc she gets the benefit of the doubt with critics reviews (hence her Music & Confessions... albums got a high Metacritic rating of 80), although this time around it is due to the double whammy of the newspapers/media narrative of the Queen of Pop returning to reclaim her throne from the pretenders (Gaga, Rihanna, Katy Perry, Taylor Swift, P!nk, etc) but also because she is granting a limited number of exclusive interviews with the media (repeating what U2 did prior to the release of their critically raved/publicly panned last album No Line On The Horizon, which even the band itself have since come out and admitted it was "lacklustre"); so do you think she will grant an interview with someone who gives a rave review of the album or someone who gives MDNA a poor review. As one review of the album in The Word monthly publication that is not online, by the same pair of Editors (Mark Ellen & David Hepworth) who previously ran Record Mirror, Smash Hits, Q, Mojo, Select and now The Word magazine, they've featured Madonna on more front covers than any other act bar U2.... yet the review is rather critical of the album, especially her vain attempts to stay as a contemporary single chart artist appealling to the youthful music buyers "whose music collection probably consists of downloads", stating the much of the first half of the album "is more Peter Stringfellow than Neil Young", lamenting her attempts to stay young as a betrayal of her work on the "wonderfully mature, yet contemporary" Ray Of Light album, comparing it unfavourably with a 53 year old (Paul Weller) who releases his 22nd studio album on Monday (Sonik Kicks) who has made a very modern contemporary sounding alternative/rock album, whilst lyrically singing about lyrics relevant to his age group. (It did praise the William Orbit produced tracks though). It also anticipated that far from gain her new fans, she is more likely to alienate her old fan base who have bought her music for nearly three decades (by comparing it to the Duran Duran Timbaland produced disaster "Red Carpet Massacre") which did just that. I don't think you can compare MDNA to Red Carpet Massacre at all. Some of DD's fans hated that record because it was so different from their past records and had hip hop sounds which is not what people associate with DD. (Personally, although I'm not a huge DD fan, I absolutely loved RCM. For me, it's far superior to their over hyped current album produced by Mark Ronson.) But the point is MDNA is a continuation of Madonna's dance and electronic sound she has done for awhile so I can't see her alienating many of her older fans with it because that's what they expect from her. Madonna's fans are used to her changing and being contemporary whereas DD's fans are more used to them doing one 80's influenced sound. So the comparison between MDNA and RCM doesn't work for me at all. And I don't see why anyone would expect her to all of a sudden become Neil Young or make an alternative rock album like Paul Weller? If you look at Madonna's past work, she has a fun dancey side to her music and a deeper darker introspective side. From what I've read, MDNA is not that radical a departure for her at all. I haven't read it but the Word review seems to reek of the usual ageism and sexism that a lot of reviews of her work seem to suffer from. And the album does deal with quite a few adult themes like her divorce. If anything, it's ROL that was a departure for her. It was her most serious album but in some ways was at odds with the fun lighthearted dancey side that made her a star. |
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I agree with the person who mentioned that Madonna's fans differ when it comes to her different 'eras', it's fascinating how the fans can differ in opinion greatly when it comes to the different looks/sounds etc that Madonna has had. I'm starting to like what I've heard of the new stuff, apart from GMAYL, but my personal favourite 'eras' are the 80s and 90s.
And I agree with Josh that it's time to put this thread to bed, I think it's been beaten to death with a big stick. Madonna's releasing her new album in the next couple of weeks so let's enjoy it and forget about her age. As for the new Duran Duran stuff, I think it's the best thing they've done in years so Mark Ronson has done a great job producing them. |
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As for the new Duran Duran stuff, I think it's the best thing they've done in years and it's partly down to Mark Ronson. |
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That's interesting. To be honest, I was never a big Duran Duran fan. Back in the 80's, there was this big war between them and Culture Club. I was on team CC so the idea of listening to DD was repulsive, although I liked a few of their radio hits. I could see why older DD fans would like the new album though because it has that signature 80's sound, but for me the songs weren't as catchy as their older hits. I just find Mark Ronson so overhyped. Everyone talks like he's some kind of magician or something. I never want to like the people the media tells me I should like, I guess!
Here's a clip of Mark from 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dS7_etz1Cw And here he is at the 2008 Brit Awards http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22aZ_2QifbQ |
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I really like Mark Ronson personally...just by knowing he worked with Lily and Amy i really went through a time of loving that stuff and actually he got me more into old skool Soul styles too
![]() And Version is a really solid album i think of nu-covers and i liked his last album too I reckon he is an okay chap and looks pretty decent too He is like the Nu-Soul version of what i think of Calvin Harris as for Electronic music...you either love em or ya dont.I love how off track it has gotten here...and rightly so..this thread is pointless, purposefulness, paradox, demeaning, repulsive, loathing, reductive...you get the picture ![]() Anyway RetroMusicFan hi 5 mate! And glad you are liking the snippets too...I Dont give A...i am surprised by in a good way its like...i dunno Broken-Urban? Inside out Hip Hop? cant describe it because i dont listen to Hip Hop but i love the sounds and vocal direction....very vapid! But yeah every era has a different fan loving it...and at the end of the day we all cannot get enough of La Ciccone She is The Queen afterall mo fos
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That's interesting. To be honest, I was never a big Duran Duran fan. Back in the 80's, there was this big war between them and Culture Club. I was on team CC so the idea of listening to DD was repulsive, although I liked a few of their radio hits. I could see why older DD fans would like the new album though because it has that signature 80's sound, but for me the songs weren't as catchy as their older hits. I just find Mark Ronson so overhyped. Everyone talks like he's some kind of magician or something. I never want to like the people the media tells me I should like, I guess!
...in fact i think he did get their newest CD in 2008 (was it 2008??) and actually was pretty decent.But like beauty, music is also in the eye of the beholder...one persons cringefest is another persons love letter to their lives. And tbh that is what it does...but at the end of the day....music brings the people together
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Oh come on, Rob, fair is fair. I am not bickering, nor am I arguing semantics. I indeed know exactly what you mean – you just said it again in English as plain as day – and I didn't imply you said anything but that. I simply disagreed with you that fans won’t/can’t give a balanced opinion on things and I backed up my opinion with a healthy amount of reasoning.
And you still dodged the question where I asked you whether you are fan of any musical acts, and whether that makes my own opinion of them more legitimate than yours? no im not a fanatic of any artist, i like music, any music that hits the right spot. some artists produce more favourable music then others, and i might 'like' them, but ive never considered myself a fan. |
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this fcukin site is so riddled with bloody adverts its taken me ages to actually get a reply posted here...
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I really like Mark Ronson personally...just by knowing he worked with Lily and Amy i really went through a time of loving that stuff and actually he got me more into old skool Soul styles too
![]() And Version is a really solid album i think of nu-covers and i liked his last album too I reckon he is an okay chap and looks pretty decent too He is like the Nu-Soul version of what i think of Calvin Harris as for Electronic music...you either love em or ya dont.I love how off track it has gotten here...and rightly so..this thread is pointless, purposefulness, paradox, demeaning, repulsive, loathing, reductive...you get the picture ![]() Anyway RetroMusicFan hi 5 mate! And glad you are liking the snippets too...I Dont give A...i am surprised by in a good way its like...i dunno Broken-Urban? Inside out Hip Hop? cant describe it because i dont listen to Hip Hop but i love the sounds and vocal direction....very vapid! But yeah every era has a different fan loving it...and at the end of the day we all cannot get enough of La Ciccone She is The Queen afterall mo fos ![]() Version is brilliant, I love the trumpet and all the strings, it's such a jazzy feelgood album, I love Amy singing Valerie, she sounds so happy there. Mark is so versatile too, he did hip hop/rap/soul type songs on Here Comes The Fuzz and Record Collection was quite 80s sounding, both Boy George and Simon Le Bon sang on that. As for the DD/CC rivalry, I loved both and still do. I do love the Madonna snippets, totally into Falling Free, I LOVE her ballads. And yes, it is a pretty pointless thread, did you see that pic of M in the SUN? |
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Version is brilliant, I love the trumpet and all the strings, it's such a jazzy feelgood album, I love Amy singing Valerie, she sounds so happy there. Mark is so versatile too, he did hip hop/rap/soul type songs on Here Comes The Fuzz and Record Collection was quite 80s sounding, both Boy George and Simon Le Bon sang on that. As for the DD/CC rivalry, I loved both and still do. I do love the Madonna snippets, totally into Falling Free, I LOVE her ballads. And yes, it is a pretty pointless thread, did you see that pic of M in the SUN? I lvoe the RIde My Bike all the way home and I want somebody to love with Boy is lovely!That is brilliant, what i love (and by your profile name i knowyou will agree with me somewhat) is that she is bringing these old skool Dance Pop sounds into a modern era, and her style reminds me a lot of her symbolic imagery of Like A Prayer, Dita Erotica era and her Virginal/Punky clash from her debut/LAV albums its like a massive Retro Pop/Punk clash in her style thus far.Yes the image of her in the Sun is so sexy! Like that pose...the dramatic pose. What i love is that Madonna isnt "sell your body to sell records" never has been, she is an attractive lady yes (Prince is attractive, Debbie Harry is/was attractive etc etc) but she has one heck of a lot to say too image wise and song wise. Whether people pick that up or not is a whole other kettle of fish. But....i dont give a...
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Yeah woo. Yes i didnt know the song "oooo weee" was by Mark ROnson at all until i knew more about him with his work with Winehouse, Allen, Aguilera (Back To Basics Disc 2 is amazing!) it is surprising his Hip Hop productions compared to his Soul influenced and yes Record COllection with the Synthpop
I lvoe the RIde My Bike all the way home and I want somebody to love with Boy is lovely!That is brilliant, what i love (and by your profile name i knowyou will agree with me somewhat) is that she is bringing these old skool Dance Pop sounds into a modern era, and her style reminds me a lot of her symbolic imagery of Like A Prayer, Dita Erotica era and her Virginal/Punky clash from her debut/LAV albums its like a massive Retro Pop/Punk clash in her style thus far.Yes the image of her in the Sun is so sexy! Like that pose...the dramatic pose. What i love is that Madonna isnt "sell your body to sell records" never has been, she is an attractive lady yes (Prince is attractive, Debbie Harry is/was attractive etc etc) but she has one heck of a lot to say too image wise and song wise. Whether people pick that up or not is a whole other kettle of fish. But....i dont give a... ![]() I've started a Mark Ronson thread here http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1641378 Cos we're getting off topic a bit here aren't we? Still, I guess that's because it's such a daft thread and everyone's got bored now. Ooh Wee, i remember hearing this in about 2003 and not knowing who it was, then Mark made Version and i saw Here Comes The Fuzz for a fiver in HMV and bought it. I was very surprised at the difference in the musical styles of both albums and Mark's appearance too. And Record Collection? Well that's Mark's stab at 80s retro, even the blonde quiff was cool. And i agree, Madonna does seem to be going quite old school. I love the snippet of I Don't Give A.... This is going to be some album I just know it. |
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She is The Queen afterall mo fos
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